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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:15:28
November 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#721
On November 30 2012 06:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:07 Woony wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:01 Sandster wrote:
It's SO WEIRD to think CLG.Prime is "stepping up" given how atrocious hotshot is, and how clueless loco still is at support.

It's really scary to think how good they *can* be if their bot lane gets back to Chausterlift levels, and hotshot stops giving up FB every game.


Calling hotshot atrocious is way overboard. I know it sounds weird but honestly people underrate hotshot.


It's because people knew HSGG as the best top laner in NA and even in the world at some time. His mains were feared and banned all the time.

At the moment, he doesn't have a signature champion and performs either on par or worse than the best top laners. Compared to the rest of the world, he is worse than he was before.

@Dragoon: Yeah, I was thinking about CLG.eu vs Fnatic for some reason -.- Damn you brainfarts!


Yeah, I wish he never went into the jungle. He could have transferred a lot of his Nidalee skills over to Jayce. Now it feels like the skill atrophy from not playing top in so long is really affecting him.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#722
On November 30 2012 06:10 adriftt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:07 Woony wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:01 Sandster wrote:
It's SO WEIRD to think CLG.Prime is "stepping up" given how atrocious hotshot is, and how clueless loco still is at support.

It's really scary to think how good they *can* be if their bot lane gets back to Chausterlift levels, and hotshot stops giving up FB every game.


Calling hotshot atrocious is way overboard. I know it sounds weird but honestly people underrate hotshot.


Hotshot doesn't carry but he is very good at doing his job as a tank. He also generally provides a good amount of pressure on the map by always pushing with TP. Even when he gets caught, he usually wastes a lot of time and allows the rest of CLG to accomplish something.

Really though its ridiculous that he won't play Irelia. He played it well before but for some reason he refuses to pick it back up.


He's simply got as good in lane compared to the world-class top's (and I consider Doublelift and Chauster world-class at their roles, with Jiji a little behind because he doesn't farm as well). He is still very good in teamfights, which allows for Doublelift carry status to take effect later on, but he pulls derps so much (way more than Doublelift).
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#723
I like Crs.EU's picks and bans a lot. I think they got a lot of info from Crs.NA about TSM. Banning Skarner and Maokai and forcing Oddone to play Mundo (not nearly at the lvl of his Maokai) was a great move.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
November 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#724
But Kat can't all-in Zyra unless Zyra burns her ultimate first, and Zyra will probably revenge-kill Kat anyways. Not such a bad pick.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:16:45
November 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#725
On November 30 2012 06:14 Doctorbeat wrote:
Zyra vs Kat? Who wins that? I mean, Kat can just E over Zyra E right?

what if zyra doesnt cast e? they both exchange equally with q's and farm.

On November 30 2012 06:15 DragoonTT wrote:
But Kat can't all-in Zyra unless Zyra burns her ultimate first, and Zyra will probably revenge-kill Kat anyways. Not such a bad pick.


zyra's ulti knocks up after 2 seconds, which means full kata ulti, all depends on starting hp or more likely jungle ganks.
Chun-li since ST
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#726
On November 30 2012 06:15 Amethyst21 wrote:
Ugh, TSM got outpicked really hard I think.

Feel the same:o
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 29 2012 21:17 GMT
#727
It always feels like TSM just kind of have a lineup they will pick regardless of what they facing. Don't know if I like that approach :<
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#728
The infamous TSM lvl 1.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#729
On November 30 2012 06:17 Numy wrote:
It always feels like TSM just kind of have a lineup they will pick regardless of what they facing. Don't know if I like that approach :<

I think it's fine against inferior opponents. Picking like that against the world class tier will just lead to a demolition.
God Bless
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#730
Chaox has E lvl 1? GG
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#731
E level one and flash already down on leona, not a pleasant start for TSM bot lane at all.
Glorious SEA doto
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#732
Well it was that or burn flash.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#733
At least Chaox was smart enough not to skill before he's in lane.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
November 29 2012 21:20 GMT
#734
Both Ignites used top.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:21:50
November 29 2012 21:20 GMT
#735
Dyrus getting dumped on by Angush 0o. Angush is a pot over Dyrus and has 50% HP over him.

Vayne with FB. Lol.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#736
HOW IS JAX BEATING SHEN AT LEVEL 1
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#737
On November 30 2012 06:18 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:17 Numy wrote:
It always feels like TSM just kind of have a lineup they will pick regardless of what they facing. Don't know if I like that approach :<

I think it's fine against inferior opponents. Picking like that against the world class tier will just lead to a demolition.


Yea I feel the same. I just don't get why LoL players seem to think so little of drafting/laning. Baffles me so much.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
November 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#738
LET THE SWEET TSM FAN BOY TEARS FLOW TODAY!
<3 Kim Taeyeon
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
November 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#739
Vayne FB, excellent.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#740
Aaaaand that lost flash bites TSM quickly.
Glorious SEA doto
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