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On November 30 2012 06:10 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 06:07 Woony wrote:On November 30 2012 06:01 Sandster wrote: It's SO WEIRD to think CLG.Prime is "stepping up" given how atrocious hotshot is, and how clueless loco still is at support.
It's really scary to think how good they *can* be if their bot lane gets back to Chausterlift levels, and hotshot stops giving up FB every game. Calling hotshot atrocious is way overboard. I know it sounds weird but honestly people underrate hotshot. It's because people knew HSGG as the best top laner in NA and even in the world at some time. His mains were feared and banned all the time. At the moment, he doesn't have a signature champion and performs either on par or worse than the best top laners. Compared to the rest of the world, he is worse than he was before. @Dragoon: Yeah, I was thinking about CLG.eu vs Fnatic for some reason -.- Damn you brainfarts! Yeah, I wish he never went into the jungle. He could have transferred a lot of his Nidalee skills over to Jayce. Now it feels like the skill atrophy from not playing top in so long is really affecting him.
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On November 30 2012 06:10 adriftt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 06:07 Woony wrote:On November 30 2012 06:01 Sandster wrote: It's SO WEIRD to think CLG.Prime is "stepping up" given how atrocious hotshot is, and how clueless loco still is at support.
It's really scary to think how good they *can* be if their bot lane gets back to Chausterlift levels, and hotshot stops giving up FB every game. Calling hotshot atrocious is way overboard. I know it sounds weird but honestly people underrate hotshot. Hotshot doesn't carry but he is very good at doing his job as a tank. He also generally provides a good amount of pressure on the map by always pushing with TP. Even when he gets caught, he usually wastes a lot of time and allows the rest of CLG to accomplish something. Really though its ridiculous that he won't play Irelia. He played it well before but for some reason he refuses to pick it back up.
He's simply got as good in lane compared to the world-class top's (and I consider Doublelift and Chauster world-class at their roles, with Jiji a little behind because he doesn't farm as well). He is still very good in teamfights, which allows for Doublelift carry status to take effect later on, but he pulls derps so much (way more than Doublelift).
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I like Crs.EU's picks and bans a lot. I think they got a lot of info from Crs.NA about TSM. Banning Skarner and Maokai and forcing Oddone to play Mundo (not nearly at the lvl of his Maokai) was a great move.
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But Kat can't all-in Zyra unless Zyra burns her ultimate first, and Zyra will probably revenge-kill Kat anyways. Not such a bad pick.
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On November 30 2012 06:14 Doctorbeat wrote: Zyra vs Kat? Who wins that? I mean, Kat can just E over Zyra E right? what if zyra doesnt cast e? they both exchange equally with q's and farm.
On November 30 2012 06:15 DragoonTT wrote: But Kat can't all-in Zyra unless Zyra burns her ultimate first, and Zyra will probably revenge-kill Kat anyways. Not such a bad pick.
zyra's ulti knocks up after 2 seconds, which means full kata ulti, all depends on starting hp or more likely jungle ganks.
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:15 Amethyst21 wrote: Ugh, TSM got outpicked really hard I think. Feel the same:o
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It always feels like TSM just kind of have a lineup they will pick regardless of what they facing. Don't know if I like that approach :<
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 30 2012 06:17 Numy wrote: It always feels like TSM just kind of have a lineup they will pick regardless of what they facing. Don't know if I like that approach :< I think it's fine against inferior opponents. Picking like that against the world class tier will just lead to a demolition.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
E level one and flash already down on leona, not a pleasant start for TSM bot lane at all.
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Well it was that or burn flash.
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At least Chaox was smart enough not to skill before he's in lane.
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Dyrus getting dumped on by Angush 0o. Angush is a pot over Dyrus and has 50% HP over him.
Vayne with FB. Lol.
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HOW IS JAX BEATING SHEN AT LEVEL 1
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On November 30 2012 06:18 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 06:17 Numy wrote: It always feels like TSM just kind of have a lineup they will pick regardless of what they facing. Don't know if I like that approach :< I think it's fine against inferior opponents. Picking like that against the world class tier will just lead to a demolition.
Yea I feel the same. I just don't get why LoL players seem to think so little of drafting/laning. Baffles me so much.
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LET THE SWEET TSM FAN BOY TEARS FLOW TODAY!
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Aaaaand that lost flash bites TSM quickly.
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