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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 02 2012 05:48 GMT
#5901
Honestly, my impression of Froggen has always that he overfarms and that Pete doesn't get enough room to farm from the rest of his team. It's quite indicative of this when Froggen is ALWAYS the one that gets to farm big pushed creep waves, and Pete has to stay with the team to defend pushes. Even when Froggen is playing Lee Sin and Pete is playing Kog'maw.

It was what, 6 months ago when people were PRAISING him for having 400+ CS in 35 minutes as Galio? That's not praiseworthy--that's grossly misplaying a tempo-carrying champion by overfarming him and not doing anything practical with his powerful teamfighting ability.
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 02 2012 05:48 GMT
#5902
CLG lets M5 get Rengar again. Blech. They are obviously smarter than me, but Rengar seemed like the biggest problem in the first 2 games.
Zero fighting.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
December 02 2012 05:48 GMT
#5903
Will TPA suicide again at level 1? Find out in the next episode of IPL.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
December 02 2012 05:48 GMT
#5904
On December 02 2012 14:39 foxmeep wrote:
CLG.EU's own play style working against them this time. Get ahead > turtle ain't gonna cut it when it's Cait/Nunu vs Ez.


going to work out real well against karth and vayne as well.

why do you do this clg??? why do you keep picking stupid ez
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 02 2012 05:48 GMT
#5905
Pretty sure if this gets to late game relatively even CLG.EU are completely boned.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:49:53
December 02 2012 05:49 GMT
#5906
On December 02 2012 14:47 Agnosthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
I think people are really underestimating how much Froggen's random tank-anivia build really hurt them. He did damage eventually, but he would have been able to exert so much more pressure with actual damage items.


yep, froggen's build fucked them over

froggen had the game set up for him to carry - level 5 vs lvl 2, 2-0-1, completely outfarming toyz, and he throws it by building dumb shit

protip froggen, retarded builds only work when ur playing solo q pubstomp


I find it hilarious you consider yourself in a position to call Froggen's build game throwing.

I feel that Yellowpete being that far behind probably forced Froggen to laneswap, which might be the reason for his non-standard build as he had to 1v2.


froggen built a bunch of sustain and survivability when tpa was in no position to try to kill him/shut him down

if he built real items and just pushed a lane they wouldve actually done something with their advantage instead of just watch yellowpete get outclassed by bebe for 30 minutes

if ur gonna build cdr and spell vamp and hp, go force fights or something. that spirit visage and giants belt does nothign when ur just clearing waves at bot tower
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PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
December 02 2012 05:50 GMT
#5907
I'm almost certain that people would be sucking Froggens builds cock if CLG won. Bandwagoning at its best.

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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 02 2012 05:50 GMT
#5908
Duo mid to shut down Froggen woot
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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
December 02 2012 05:51 GMT
#5909
On December 02 2012 14:50 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I'm almost certain that people would be sucking Froggens builds cock if CLG won. Bandwagoning at its best.


but its the reason they lost, i dont see your point.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
December 02 2012 05:52 GMT
#5910
On December 02 2012 14:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:47 Agnosthar wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
I think people are really underestimating how much Froggen's random tank-anivia build really hurt them. He did damage eventually, but he would have been able to exert so much more pressure with actual damage items.


yep, froggen's build fucked them over

froggen had the game set up for him to carry - level 5 vs lvl 2, 2-0-1, completely outfarming toyz, and he throws it by building dumb shit

protip froggen, retarded builds only work when ur playing solo q pubstomp


I find it hilarious you consider yourself in a position to call Froggen's build game throwing.

I feel that Yellowpete being that far behind probably forced Froggen to laneswap, which might be the reason for his non-standard build as he had to 1v2.


froggen built a bunch of sustain and survivability when tpa was in no position to try to kill him/shut him down

if he built real items and just pushed a lane they wouldve actually done something with their advantage instead of just watch yellowpete get outclassed by bebe for 30 minutes

if ur gonna build cdr and spell vamp and hp, go force fights or something. that spirit visage and giants belt does nothign when ur just clearing waves at bot tower

Isn't that more of a factor of the terrible call to lane swap and not Froggen's build? He was so far ahead that it wouldn't have mattered what he built if they had just grouped and pushed. Even if Froggen went with a perfectly normal Anivia build that game wouldn't have gone differently if they still lane swapped him bottom.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
December 02 2012 05:52 GMT
#5911
On December 02 2012 14:50 MooMooMugi wrote:
Duo mid to shut down Froggen woot

More like duo mid to get Vayne free farm while avoiding to send Stanley 1v2 where he often fails.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 02 2012 05:52 GMT
#5912
On December 02 2012 14:50 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I'm almost certain that people would be sucking Froggens builds cock if CLG won. Bandwagoning at its best.

Regardless of win or lose, it's pretty apparent whether Froggen's build is actually effective or not.

Even if CLG.Eu was winning, it's not exactly hard for anyone with a vague sense of the game that Froggen would be contributing fairly little to actually doing so (aside from his walls and stuns).
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 02 2012 05:53 GMT
#5913
Nice MIA Stanley! xD
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:54:25
December 02 2012 05:53 GMT
#5914
Where did lulu put her early wards? They mad overextend mid

also I hope the people watching M5 will post lots of things in caps if anything interesting happens :|
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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:55:25
December 02 2012 05:54 GMT
#5915
On December 02 2012 14:48 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:39 foxmeep wrote:
CLG.EU's own play style working against them this time. Get ahead > turtle ain't gonna cut it when it's Cait/Nunu vs Ez.


going to work out real well against karth and vayne as well.

why do you do this clg??? why do you keep picking stupid ez

Does he play anything other than kog/ez? I don't see him on anything else and fucking Froggen has seen more time with Corki for eu recently.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
December 02 2012 05:54 GMT
#5916
And Pete is again inexplicably 10cs behind in a freefarm lane.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
December 02 2012 05:55 GMT
#5917
On December 02 2012 14:53 xes wrote:
Where did lulu put her early wards? They mad overextend mid


nowhere probably. probably werent afraid of lowhp vlad + non 6 amumu and didnt think wickd would roam. dont think anyone thought he would :p
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
December 02 2012 05:56 GMT
#5918
On December 02 2012 14:50 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I'm almost certain that people would be sucking Froggens builds cock if CLG won. Bandwagoning at its best.


I dont mind when froggen builds a warmogs and other quirky items, but spirit visage is literally the most stupid thing he could have built. 1500 g down the drain and he ended up selling it later to get a deathcap.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 02 2012 05:56 GMT
#5919
Toyz half farm of Froggen but knowing him he will catch up in notime
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 02 2012 05:57 GMT
#5920
I don't think this lane swap is working out for TPA, Karthus is fairly useless without CS.
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