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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
December 01 2012 02:42 GMT
#3181
On December 01 2012 11:32 oogieogie wrote:
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On December 01 2012 11:31 Woony wrote:
I think Blitz is fucking stupid, both in soloqueue and competitive play. When you are ahead he makes you snowball really hard and when you are behind he can single-handely hook you back into the game. I'm honestly surprised as to why he's not picked/banned every game.

Then you hook a amumu into the team and he ults all 5 of you so you get aced. It is high risk high reward.

How is he high-risk high reward? Of course, in paper there are terrible pull scenarios, but most of the time it's not true.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 02:46:23
December 01 2012 02:42 GMT
#3182
oh tsm..even when you seem to look good you always find a way to lose.

@vol you got a ez who can escape from pull if played correctly/leona if you grab she can get a 5 person ult/maokai kinda wants to be pulled or doesn't care/diana builds tanky and can use that to chain other things etc. etc.

To just say "lol blitz always grab support = insta kill it for advantage" is just stupid. Also there is times where you even pull the target but spend to much on them...Things can go wrong with a blitz hook it is not just a high reward thing.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 01 2012 02:44 GMT
#3183
Chaox is like the antithesis of Doublelift.
Remember Violet.
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
December 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#3184
OddOne best (least bad) player on TSM =P
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#3185
Flame got so much jungle helps, TSM actually played reasonably well this early game.

Chaox and Xpecial dying 2-0 to Lostboy and Cpt. Jack is kinda blah.

Korean teams just smarter teamcomps and lane strategies. reminicent of higher level DotA, where as NA teams so standard. It isn't even like Koreans way better mechanics or Micro, its like they just smarter better organized.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#3186
This observer is pissing me off-
Cackle™
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
December 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#3187
Wow, Reginald. What was that.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
December 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#3188
AP YI fror M5 oh my god
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
December 01 2012 02:46 GMT
#3189
My god. TSM would be in this if they didn't go retard every time after they do something smart.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
December 01 2012 02:46 GMT
#3190
On December 01 2012 11:22 Jaksiel wrote:
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On December 01 2012 11:21 Dgiese wrote:
On December 01 2012 11:18 Jaksiel wrote:
Eh....Vayne's GA is back up. I feel like it was a mistake by CLG to not fight over the inhibs before that happened.

Yeah, they totally shouldn't have gotten that doublelift pentakill into destroying the nexus. terrible planning by CLG there.


Easy to post this after the fact...just because it worked out doesn't necessarily make it the right play. Why did they wait to force a fight until after Vayne's GA was back up? What advantage did they gain?

FAR better positioning than they otherwise would have had if they had randomly forced a fight at baron... which lead to the won team fight... which led to killing the nexus.

Vayne GA is nice and all, but not the be all and end all.

I agree with what you said about being results oriented... but in my opinion it was a better play in general to wait for an advantageous position (which they could easily manipulate with 2 open inhibs, and shen splitpush).
HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
December 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#3191
Does anyone knows what masteries flames uses for vlad top?
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 02:48:46
December 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#3192
On December 01 2012 11:47 HolyToss1911 wrote:
Does anyone knows what masteries flames uses for vlad top?

19/11/0 if i had to take a guess, but could be a more defensive 9/21/0. I don't see vlad wanting to go into utility at all.

forgot about that -2 damage mastery..woops.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
December 01 2012 02:48 GMT
#3193
Regi ignoring bot the whole game....
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 01 2012 02:48 GMT
#3194
On December 01 2012 11:45 trollbone wrote:
AP YI fror M5 oh my god


Maybe he'll get another penta
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 01 2012 02:49 GMT
#3195
Every time I see TSM play these days I'm always seeing Dyrus play Darius and get his butt kicked.

Is this what everybody else is seeing or am I just anti Darius. I am prety anti Darius. Darius is a jerk.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#3196
On December 01 2012 11:49 Ketara wrote:
Every time I see TSM play these days I'm always seeing Dyrus play Darius and get his butt kicked.

Is this what everybody else is seeing or am I just anti Darius. I am prety anti Darius. Darius is a jerk.

Well to be fair to you, fuck darius.
Glorious SEA doto
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9155 Posts
December 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#3197
wtf is this game
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#3198
Omg Baylife!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#3199
What a cluster fuck lol
Cackle™
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#3200
1 minute teamfight?
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