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On November 03 2012 10:27 overt wrote: Weird. Why did they even bring Voyboy with them then? In case Westrice gets injured and they need to bring in their sub? To shake up CLG.na's confidence. lol.
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On November 03 2012 09:21 Headshot wrote:Getting rid of Voy was the correct call and Hotshot was not the problem in that game one. The entire team was woefully unprepared for Najin's strat.
¤#!$ fanboys. Sorry that was rude. But please, give us a break. Hotshot is the biggest problem on this team. Have you ever watched them stream scrims? Nothing is ever his fault. Just no.
Ontopic: Love Najin Sword. Great play, they just ran CLG over.
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Can someone who's experienced top lane explain to me how Korean top laner's are just so much stronger than NA? Like to me this game is very match up and knowledge based where playing the lane over and over will let you have an advantage as long as your not being heavily counterpicked.
Im pretty sure while NA team practices might not practice as much as a team, they still play a ton of solo que... so how is there just a big skillcap difference top.
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On November 03 2012 10:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 10:27 overt wrote: Weird. Why did they even bring Voyboy with them then? In case Westrice gets injured and they need to bring in their sub? To shake up CLG.na's confidence. lol. Like that's ever gonna happen.
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On November 03 2012 10:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 10:27 overt wrote: Weird. Why did they even bring Voyboy with them then? In case Westrice gets injured and they need to bring in their sub? To shake up CLG.na's confidence. lol. You mean to give CLG.na a good laugh. Curse has become synonymous with bench warmers at this point.
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On November 03 2012 10:29 R11 wrote: Can someone who's experienced top lane explain to me how Korean top laner's are just so much stronger than NA? Like to me this game is very match up and knowledge based where playing the lane over and over will let you have an advantage as long as your not being heavily counterpicked.
Im pretty sure while NA team practices might not practice as much as a team, they still play a ton of solo que... so how is there just a big skillcap difference top.
Implying you meet good players in solo-q.
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On November 03 2012 10:29 R11 wrote: Can someone who's experienced top lane explain to me how Korean top laner's are just so much stronger than NA? Like to me this game is very match up and knowledge based where playing the lane over and over will let you have an advantage as long as your not being heavily counterpicked.
Im pretty sure while NA team practices might not practice as much as a team, they still play a ton of solo que... so how is there just a big skillcap difference top.
There's a pretty simple analogy to this from bw, if someone wants to practice muta vs marine micro, is it more efficient to practice it by playing 1v1s on a regular map or micro map?
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On November 03 2012 10:29 R11 wrote: Can someone who's experienced top lane explain to me how Korean top laner's are just so much stronger than NA? Like to me this game is very match up and knowledge based where playing the lane over and over will let you have an advantage as long as your not being heavily counterpicked.
Im pretty sure while NA team practices might not practice as much as a team, they still play a ton of solo que... so how is there just a big skillcap difference top.
korean toplane do lots of 1v1s from what ive heard. soloq is shit for practice.
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I think the concept of counter picks is really overrated anyways. There are so many champions who have safe lanes in this game that there are very few true "counter picks." Most lanes are favorable or unfavorable and who wins the lane depends largely on who the better player is imo.
Counter picks is just something people say when they're in a hard lane and they play it badly instead of just saying, "I played badly."
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On November 03 2012 10:29 R11 wrote: Can someone who's experienced top lane explain to me how Korean top laner's are just so much stronger than NA? Like to me this game is very match up and knowledge based where playing the lane over and over will let you have an advantage as long as your not being heavily counterpicked.
Im pretty sure while NA team practices might not practice as much as a team, they still play a ton of solo que... so how is there just a big skillcap difference top.
I wouldn't take Hotshots performance there as typical of the NA scene. I may be proved wrong over this weekend, but to me he looked rusty (hopefully from Jungling for so long). Lets see how TSM does against Korea.
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On November 03 2012 10:33 overt wrote: I think the concept of counter picks is really overrated anyways. There are so many champions who have safe lanes in this game that there are very few true "counter picks." Most lanes are favorable or unfavorable and who wins the lane depends largely on who the better player is imo.
Counter picks is just something people say when they're in a hard lane and they play it badly instead of just saying, "I played badly." There is arguably lanes that have an innate advantage over others though.
Although I agree with you when you say it largely has to do with player skill.
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On November 03 2012 10:29 R11 wrote: Can someone who's experienced top lane explain to me how Korean top laner's are just so much stronger than NA? Like to me this game is very match up and knowledge based where playing the lane over and over will let you have an advantage as long as your not being heavily counterpicked.
Im pretty sure while NA team practices might not practice as much as a team, they still play a ton of solo que... so how is there just a big skillcap difference top.
It's more like there's no really good NA tops out there (probably the worst region compared to EU, Korea + China), so even when they practice against each toerh they don't really improve. Dyrus if I remember right talked about how he wasn't able to get away with any of the mistakes that are normal in his play with NA players because the better players in other regions punished him so hard for them whereas NA tops wouldn't so he never learned properly
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Overt, I think that's mostly true.
You're absolutely right that people play badly and blaming the match-up, hurting the credibility of counter picks. If all you're saying is that it's overrated than I agree, However there are some very lopsided match-ups.
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its so sad to see jiji losing so badly in cs when he is playing oriana in a favorable lane both games. I like jiji and remember when he was considered the best player but man he really just has no presence mid in any of these games
i don't think you can really judge hotshots performance from those games. they got outplayed pretty hard everywhere on the map
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oh my god, i stayed up till 2:40 and just watched like 30 mins of adverts to see jatt replaced by phreak.
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On November 03 2012 10:39 LaNague wrote: oh my god, i stayed up till 2:40 and just watched like 30 mins of adverts to see jatt replaced by phreak. Haha get owned.
And if you on free stream it's starting to lag too
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On November 03 2012 10:39 LaNague wrote: oh my god, i stayed up till 2:40 and just watched like 30 mins of adverts to see jatt replaced by phreak. Yeah, I, too, was happy to miss Jatt commentating. Dodged a bullet there.
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is curse using apple earbuds across the board? or did everyone use those?
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On November 03 2012 10:41 Lmui wrote: is curse using apple earbuds across the board? or did everyone use those?
Crs tweeted they couldn't use their own headsets, so idk
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