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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.
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Baa?21244 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:41 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 06:34 BlueSpace wrote:On October 07 2012 06:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On October 07 2012 06:29 StateAlchemist wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 Fusilero wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 GettingIt wrote:
Anyone know what the hell is taking so long? Riot employees keep going back and forth from WE I think WE are unhappy about this. they cant really assume they were in position to win the game, yeah they had a slight advantage but that's all probably arguing about the remake format Their advantage was not slight. If you don't believe me go dig up my other post countering travis who made the same assumption as you. That is really not the point. They didn't win it 100% so you can't give them the win. Argue 60/40, 70/30 or even 95/5... in the end you cannot award the win. That's silly. plenty of prior examples of dc/outage in the middle of a game and when one side had a convincing advantage, they got the win flash vs jaedong most prominent one, boxer vs nightend in tsl too The Flash vs Jaedong one was discussed to death back then, and in the end most people pretty much agreed that Jaedong had that game in the bag. The worst part of that regame was that Flash's dad spent an hour arguing with the Kespa referees and possibly demoralized Flash in the process (Flash looked really sloppy the game after).
my point to address the guy saying you cant even award a win in 95/5, which was what jd/flash was.
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On October 07 2012 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 06:34 BlueSpace wrote:On October 07 2012 06:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On October 07 2012 06:29 StateAlchemist wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 Fusilero wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 GettingIt wrote:
Anyone know what the hell is taking so long? Riot employees keep going back and forth from WE I think WE are unhappy about this. they cant really assume they were in position to win the game, yeah they had a slight advantage but that's all probably arguing about the remake format Their advantage was not slight. If you don't believe me go dig up my other post countering travis who made the same assumption as you. That is really not the point. They didn't win it 100% so you can't give them the win. Argue 60/40, 70/30 or even 95/5... in the end you cannot award the win. That's silly. plenty of prior examples of dc/outage in the middle of a game and when one side had a convincing advantage, they got the win flash vs jaedong most prominent one, boxer vs nightend in tsl too
Nope... as long as there is reasonable doubt as in who will win the game, you should not award a win. It just depends on what you call "convincing".
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Baa?21244 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:42 BlueSpace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 06:34 BlueSpace wrote:On October 07 2012 06:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On October 07 2012 06:29 StateAlchemist wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 Fusilero wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 GettingIt wrote:
Anyone know what the hell is taking so long? Riot employees keep going back and forth from WE I think WE are unhappy about this. they cant really assume they were in position to win the game, yeah they had a slight advantage but that's all probably arguing about the remake format Their advantage was not slight. If you don't believe me go dig up my other post countering travis who made the same assumption as you. That is really not the point. They didn't win it 100% so you can't give them the win. Argue 60/40, 70/30 or even 95/5... in the end you cannot award the win. That's silly. plenty of prior examples of dc/outage in the middle of a game and when one side had a convincing advantage, they got the win flash vs jaedong most prominent one, boxer vs nightend in tsl too Nope... as long as there is reasonable doubt as in who will win the game, you should not award a win. It just depends on what you call "convincing".
95/5 is not reasonable doubt
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That fiddles is epic, saving esports one throw at a time.
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On October 07 2012 06:42 BlueSpace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 06:34 BlueSpace wrote:On October 07 2012 06:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On October 07 2012 06:29 StateAlchemist wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 Fusilero wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 GettingIt wrote:
Anyone know what the hell is taking so long? Riot employees keep going back and forth from WE I think WE are unhappy about this. they cant really assume they were in position to win the game, yeah they had a slight advantage but that's all probably arguing about the remake format Their advantage was not slight. If you don't believe me go dig up my other post countering travis who made the same assumption as you. That is really not the point. They didn't win it 100% so you can't give them the win. Argue 60/40, 70/30 or even 95/5... in the end you cannot award the win. That's silly. plenty of prior examples of dc/outage in the middle of a game and when one side had a convincing advantage, they got the win flash vs jaedong most prominent one, boxer vs nightend in tsl too Nope... as long as there is reasonable doubt as in who will win the game, you should not award a win. It just depends on what you call "convincing".
Parting would like to have a word with you. I don't think anyone had any doubts who was winning that game.
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On October 07 2012 06:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 06:41 EquilasH wrote:On October 07 2012 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 06:34 BlueSpace wrote:On October 07 2012 06:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On October 07 2012 06:29 StateAlchemist wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 Fusilero wrote:On October 07 2012 06:27 GettingIt wrote:
Anyone know what the hell is taking so long? Riot employees keep going back and forth from WE I think WE are unhappy about this. they cant really assume they were in position to win the game, yeah they had a slight advantage but that's all probably arguing about the remake format Their advantage was not slight. If you don't believe me go dig up my other post countering travis who made the same assumption as you. That is really not the point. They didn't win it 100% so you can't give them the win. Argue 60/40, 70/30 or even 95/5... in the end you cannot award the win. That's silly. plenty of prior examples of dc/outage in the middle of a game and when one side had a convincing advantage, they got the win flash vs jaedong most prominent one, boxer vs nightend in tsl too The Flash vs Jaedong one was discussed to death back then, and in the end most people pretty much agreed that Jaedong had that game in the bag. The worst part of that regame was that Flash's dad spent an hour arguing with the Kespa referees and possibly demoralized Flash in the process (Flash looked really sloppy the game after). my point to address the guy saying you cant even award a win in 95/5, which was what jd/flash was.
That's true, but there was no way this last game was even close to 95/5 in favor of WE - but yea I agree with you that in a 95/5 situation the game could be awarded to the team with a 95% chance of winning (I do think Jaedong had much more than a 95% chance of winning that game btw).
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
No blitz, orianna or TF for WE lmao.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
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Is djWHEAT going to be there during the picks?
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blitzcrank finally getting banned. about time.
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On October 07 2012 06:33 Acertos wrote:
There was a question about the situation of the NA scene, i think dignitas and clg na wont be in the top 3 anymore and that TSM will stay. Some new teams like legion could take over. Its just my opinion tough and im following the EU scene way more
I really don't see this happening. People like to hate on CLG and DiG because they struggled but the reality is that the whole NA scene is pretty behind right now. For all the hate that they get, CLG and DiG still almost always beat the second tier NA teams when they play.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
WE looks mighty pissed
they should be :<
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On October 07 2012 06:44 Xacez wrote:
Is djWHEAT going to be there during the picks?
It looked like he wasn't sure if he should stay or go LOL
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Misaya banned out and no Blitz
LOL
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Baa?21244 Posts
On October 07 2012 06:44 MooMooMugi wrote:
Misaya banned out and no Blitz
LOL
banned out? misaya plays more than 2 champs lol
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95-5 is a very, very, very conservative estimation. no BW expert on the OGN commentary nor pros (that could be considered unbiased) believed that flash could win that game. i would argue that flash's dad and the poor handling from KT's staff contributed more to his loss in the 4th game than the power outage itself.
the comparison i made to regaming with same picks bans for WE to declaring a regame for the power outage is still a poor comparison because a regame for the power outage would have still been much, much worse.
blitz ban!
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EPT
