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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
October 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#5161
anyone else notice the crocs on the Korean caster on the right?????; twitch.tv/ogn_lol
this mah s#$%$
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#5162
On October 06 2012 05:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:21 Kouda wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:21 TheYango wrote:
Zilean+Kog

I pray to god that the new bug Navi told me about doesn't ruin this game.


explain bug pls?

If you ult Kog too close to death, it doesn't save Kog--Kog still dies and his passive activates and he runs around with the Zilean ult buff on him when he explodes (wasting the Zilean ult).

The optimal play from any Zilean player is to last-second ult when possible, so the bug REALLY hurts Zilean+Kog.

Hmm, if this is real, this is gonna be huge.
Terran
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
October 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#5163
Hrrrm, Sona + Lee ults the only hard CC for M5 - a lot of slows, but ...
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
October 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#5164
Is zilean still as strong in lane as I remember? Its been so long since I've seen a game with him but I remember bombs taking out 1/3rd of your life each time
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
October 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#5165
Go M5! Never watched LoL tournaments before, and only played a little myself, but this tournament seems really professional.
Fnatic - TSM - EG
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
October 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#5166
On October 06 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:23 HPoirot wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:22 Redox wrote:
How many different champions have we seen picked so far? Must be over 50 right?

IIRC, a guy on reddit said exactly 50 were picked or banned after day 1. Xin and Zilean have added to that.

+ Evelynn

Eve got banned 7 times yesterday.
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5167
I admire Phreak's ability to make so much shit up almost instantly.
RIP KT.Violet
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5168
OGN should really pay Phreak some money. He's doing a great job sending viewers their way.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5169
On October 06 2012 05:21 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:20 Treetime wrote:
seems like kog is pretty popular among the top teams


Have we already forgotten the famous PROTECT KOGMAW COMP?

Some people say that Trist and Vayne have the scariest late game....
Could it be they are wrong and Kog has the strongest late game because of insane range? (which allow poke strat)


Kog lane phase and mid game is better than both of them. Trist is a bit better in lane during really early levels (like 1-3). But Kog mid game is much stronger.

Come late game Kog has better poke and has AoE CC.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5170
On October 06 2012 05:24 HPoirot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:23 HPoirot wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:22 Redox wrote:
How many different champions have we seen picked so far? Must be over 50 right?

IIRC, a guy on reddit said exactly 50 were picked or banned after day 1. Xin and Zilean have added to that.

+ Evelynn

Eve got banned 7 times yesterday.

That's why she wasn't picked yet.
That was the first Eve game so far.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5171
eve was banned against nj sword yesterday.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 20:26:17
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5172
On October 06 2012 05:24 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:23 TheYango wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:21 Kouda wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:21 TheYango wrote:
Zilean+Kog

I pray to god that the new bug Navi told me about doesn't ruin this game.


explain bug pls?

If you ult Kog too close to death, it doesn't save Kog--Kog still dies and his passive activates and he runs around with the Zilean ult buff on him when he explodes (wasting the Zilean ult).

The optimal play from any Zilean player is to last-second ult when possible, so the bug REALLY hurts Zilean+Kog.

Hmm, if this is real, this is gonna be huge.

It's possible that the bug is only on live and not on their tournament version, because IIRC we found out about it on the current live version.

It would be a HUGE problem if the bug affects this game.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 05 2012 20:25 GMT
#5173
On October 06 2012 03:06 TheYango wrote:
On the issue of qualification vs. invitation for the tournament that someone brought up a few pages, I'm sort of torn 50:50 on this. On the one hand, qualification is more "fair", but on the other hand, invitation allows you to produce a better tournament with more crowd popularity/hype by ensuring that you bring teams that deserve to be there. This is especially true given the region skew that having invites allows you to account for--TI2 had 4 invites + 1 qualified team from China, and all told I don't think it would be too far off to say that a similar number of teams from Korea actually deserve to be here over some of their NA/EU counterparts (Blaze 100% deserves to be here over SK or Dignitas, CLG.NA probably still worth inviting due to being a huge crowd favorite even though they don't perform that well).

Probably the best medium is a mix of invite and qualifier slots. Valve's split between invites and qualifiers was 14+2, and realistically you could probably do 12+4 or 10+6 and still invite most of the people worth inviting.

It's not really a question of who deserve what. Riot is thinking long term, you also got to help the regional scene to continue living, if you only give slot to the international tournament to the best team, then the weakest scene will eventually disappear.

Also, I don't understand why they should invite anyone ? Valve's IT is not really an exemple in this regard. LOL already has a lot of different tournaments (IEM, MLG, IPL). S2 is supposed to be the tournament that makes the pro scene and the semi pro scene clash out and see if new faces can rise out.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5174
On October 06 2012 05:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:24 HPoirot wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:23 HPoirot wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:22 Redox wrote:
How many different champions have we seen picked so far? Must be over 50 right?

IIRC, a guy on reddit said exactly 50 were picked or banned after day 1. Xin and Zilean have added to that.

+ Evelynn

Eve got banned 7 times yesterday.

That's why she wasn't picked yet.
That was the first Eve game so far.

"picked or banned"

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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5175
Rivington: "PDD not picking Yorick despite it not being banned out ..."

Yorick was first ban :/ One of the few times Phreak's expression has mirrored mine.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5176
On October 06 2012 05:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:24 HPoirot wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:23 HPoirot wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:22 Redox wrote:
How many different champions have we seen picked so far? Must be over 50 right?

IIRC, a guy on reddit said exactly 50 were picked or banned after day 1. Xin and Zilean have added to that.

+ Evelynn

Eve got banned 7 times yesterday.

That's why she wasn't picked yet.
That was the first Eve game so far.

I said 50 were picked or banned. Don't know how many were just picked(Eve finally being picked might have made that number the same, to be fair.)
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9129 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5177
"They wanna hear you through their soundproof headphones"

Well, that's an oxymoron if I ever saw one.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1944 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5178
He looked like he wanted to murder him there. I got scared.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5179
Off topic: My internet is so OP today, 2 of my friends are playing WOW:MoP next door and I am viewing English cast and Korean cast at the same time both at HQ with no lag.
M5 go go go !!!!
Terran
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#5180
M5 is winning by picking Chinese heroes like LeeSin and Xin, this time they have LeeSin and Sona. iG's beginning to catch on and countering with Vlad pick, but they need more of stuff like morde, kat, and mundo to stand a chance
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
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