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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#3821
On October 05 2012 12:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
NA server, please wake the fuck up after S2.

Thanks,
Neo

There is still hope in TSM. I have no idea how they are going to do, but it could at least be a strong showing for one NA team, even if they don't win. The rest of NA does need to step it up, though.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
October 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#3822
On October 05 2012 12:10 Caphe wrote:
Archie QUADRA !!! SAJ SAJ SAJ.
Man, I wasn't really expected this eventhough SAJ is my home team. Omg, I am so happy right now.


<3

Really great for SAJ to pull out those crazy lanes after Dignitas attempted something similar in their last match and it backfired horribly.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 03:13:59
October 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#3823
Okay guys i was able to catch the very first game between frost and iG, and part of the second between iG and clg na, just going over the thread and had a look at the results so far, any standout games i missed that i should definitely check out later?
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#3824
On October 05 2012 12:12 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:11 Slow Motion wrote:
NA players get too much money from streaming.



I would watch the "foreign" stream, but I don't understand a word of Korean, Russian, and even Chinese (I'm not fluent in Mandarin). So that leaves me English streamers...

No I meant that as they prioritize streaming over scrims.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#3825
On October 05 2012 12:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:11 Dgiese wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:08 Numy wrote:
This is starting to feel a lot like the Dota 2 international. People more exposed to Western teams -> so they overrate western teams -> East Stomps everyone -> People surprised.

Pretty sure most ppl on TL expected Azubu and IG from group A, and Sword and CLG.EU from B. So far only 'upset' has been jokers beating dig... which is more funny than surprising.


Yea but TL is a small smart community. The "fan polls" kind of said differently didn't it?

yea but SAJ were dark horses through and through. They've basically never played against any western teams except at IPL so it's hard to judge. But SAJ doing this well gives me hope that TPA will rape everyone.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
October 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#3826
So Najin is 1st in group now no matter what right? Anyone know for sure how they treat ties in group stage?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#3827
Zzzz, Scumbag Karthus wrecked Archies Penta.
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
October 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#3828
5000 dollars are alot of fucking money in Vietnam so SAJ pretty much man the fuck up and win their games.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#3829
Those were weird lanes. Leona mid did a lot to keep fights in SJ's favor.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
October 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#3830
On October 05 2012 12:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:11 Dgiese wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:08 Numy wrote:
This is starting to feel a lot like the Dota 2 international. People more exposed to Western teams -> so they overrate western teams -> East Stomps everyone -> People surprised.

Pretty sure most ppl on TL expected Azubu and IG from group A, and Sword and CLG.EU from B. So far only 'upset' has been jokers beating dig... which is more funny than surprising.


Yea but TL is a small smart community. The "fan polls" kind of said differently didn't it?

I think it's the "fan favorite" effect you see in every game. Like how for any poll you'll see "Who do you think will win MLG?", and Thorzain, Naniwa, and some other good foreigners will have a good chunk of the votes just because everyone loves them. But in the end, if you think rationally you KNOW someone like MC or Bomber or MKP will be taking down the prize with ease.

For people who closely follow the scenes, these results aren't surprising, but to either blind fanboys or casual fans, seeing their heroes get trashed is shocking, at least it seems so judging by my friend's response to CLG's 1-2.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#3831
lol Dignitas lost to SJ?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#3832
Not a single tick of damage on Archie that entire fight. Not surprising they lost it so badly.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 03:16:27
October 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#3833
On October 05 2012 12:13 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
NA server, please wake the fuck up after S2.

Thanks,
Neo

There is still hope in TSM. I have no idea how they are going to do, but it could at least be a strong showing for one NA team, even if they don't win. The rest of NA does need to step it up, though.



Yeah the NA teams are not really great atm but honestly I did not expect anything else I do not expect that TSM will win anything either and as people stated the only real "upset" was Jokers beating Dignitas. For me it was a bit surprising that CLG loses to Naijin aswell (even though not shocking) but if you let Sona/ezreal open to pick a Malphite you deserve to lose.

Edit: and since Gamescom CLG.eu is not really that strong anymore and you see a lot more weaknesses recently.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
October 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#3834
On October 05 2012 12:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:11 Dgiese wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:08 Numy wrote:
This is starting to feel a lot like the Dota 2 international. People more exposed to Western teams -> so they overrate western teams -> East Stomps everyone -> People surprised.

Pretty sure most ppl on TL expected Azubu and IG from group A, and Sword and CLG.EU from B. So far only 'upset' has been jokers beating dig... which is more funny than surprising.


Yea but TL is a small smart community. The "fan polls" kind of said differently didn't it?

I dunno, I'd treat 'fan polls' the same way i treat twitch chat, lol official forums, and fox news.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 05 2012 03:16 GMT
#3835
On October 05 2012 12:15 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:13 Numy wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:11 Dgiese wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:08 Numy wrote:
This is starting to feel a lot like the Dota 2 international. People more exposed to Western teams -> so they overrate western teams -> East Stomps everyone -> People surprised.

Pretty sure most ppl on TL expected Azubu and IG from group A, and Sword and CLG.EU from B. So far only 'upset' has been jokers beating dig... which is more funny than surprising.


Yea but TL is a small smart community. The "fan polls" kind of said differently didn't it?

I think it's the "fan favorite" effect you see in every game. Like how for any poll you'll see "Who do you think will win MLG?", and Thorzain, Naniwa, and some other good foreigners will have a good chunk of the votes just because everyone loves them. But in the end, if you think rationally you KNOW someone like MC or Bomber or MKP will be taking down the prize with ease.

For people who closely follow the scenes, these results aren't surprising, but to either blind fanboys or casual fans, seeing their heroes get trashed is shocking, at least it seems so judging by my friend's response to CLG's 1-2.


Explains why I know iG will lose to M5. :D
Hey! How you doin'?
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 05 2012 03:16 GMT
#3836
On October 05 2012 12:11 Slow Motion wrote:
NA players get too much money from streaming.

when i've seen scrims streamed there isn't a huge drop in viewers or anything. at this point it's not about keeping strats secret. they need to grind out tons of scrims just to raise their level of play in general. that won't be giving anything away if they stream it. they can still work on some secret shit off stream too
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
jgoonld
Profile Joined November 2010
334 Posts
October 05 2012 03:16 GMT
#3837
On October 05 2012 12:11 cLutZ wrote:
I did not see picks/bans, but why pick Kat vs. Karth?


Kat's actually great vs Karthus, since he has no cc and is squishy she can burst him down pretty quick. Unfortunately, kat didn't lane against karthus, so they didn't matter at all.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 05 2012 03:16 GMT
#3838
I hope TSM crushes everyone and we look dumb for ever doubting them

I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 05 2012 03:16 GMT
#3839
On October 05 2012 12:14 NHY wrote:
So Najin is 1st in group now no matter what right? Anyone know for sure how they treat ties in group stage?


They still have to beat Dignitas.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 05 2012 03:16 GMT
#3840
On October 05 2012 12:14 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:12 XenOmega wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:11 Slow Motion wrote:
NA players get too much money from streaming.



I would watch the "foreign" stream, but I don't understand a word of Korean, Russian, and even Chinese (I'm not fluent in Mandarin). So that leaves me English streamers...

No I meant that as they prioritize streaming over scrims.


Yea, I agree with you on that point!

But until we get some structures that allow players to sustain themselves, they don't have a choice... I mean, S3 might change things (if the salary is decent). That will allow some teams to focus solely on their game and not on economics.
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