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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9188 Posts
August 13 2012 03:30 GMT
#1181
Most anticlimactic finals ever.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2012 03:31 GMT
#1182
On August 13 2012 12:26 GeorgeForeman wrote:
So I guess Nunu is the new Shyvanna?

lol. more like shyvana was the new nunu. Nunu was the original counterjungle champ and TOO was King Nunu back in the day. Teams used to perma-ban Nunu against TSM 'cause of TOO.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 13 2012 03:31 GMT
#1183
This game is gonna be over faster than the last game. It seems that Curse is A-ok with 2nd place and just let TSM rolling over them.
Terran
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 13 2012 03:31 GMT
#1184
nunu shyvanna completely different champions
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
August 13 2012 03:32 GMT
#1185
10:24: SV secures a buff.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 13 2012 03:32 GMT
#1186
Saint got a buff!! Let's all cheer!
God Bless
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 13 2012 03:32 GMT
#1187
First TOO is a beast on Nunu. Second he's counterjungling Amumu w/o blue. No Nunu is not the new Shyvanna.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
August 13 2012 03:32 GMT
#1188
On August 13 2012 12:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 12:26 GeorgeForeman wrote:
So I guess Nunu is the new Shyvanna?

lol. more like shyvana was the new nunu. Nunu was the original counterjungle champ and TOO was King Nunu back in the day. Teams used to perma-ban Nunu against TSM 'cause of TOO.

I did not know that! Before my time, I suppose. I will say, TOO seems really comfortable on Nunu, and I didn't think he'd played him a lot in the past 8 months.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 13 2012 03:33 GMT
#1189
How does saint not know that amumu loses to counter jungling.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 13 2012 03:33 GMT
#1190
all i can say is ive been in saints situation lots of times as amumu and really, its not that bad, it doesnt even look bad. The only bad thing is if you actually bait your team into fighting in the jungle and losing.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 03:35:04
August 13 2012 03:33 GMT
#1191
Why Curse didn't pick Lulu and Irelia if they want to play the protect the AD carry game.
And that Curse bot lane get zoned out so hard. Chaox is pulling ahead of Cop.
Terran
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 03:36:08
August 13 2012 03:34 GMT
#1192
On August 13 2012 12:32 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 12:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 13 2012 12:26 GeorgeForeman wrote:
So I guess Nunu is the new Shyvanna?

lol. more like shyvana was the new nunu. Nunu was the original counterjungle champ and TOO was King Nunu back in the day. Teams used to perma-ban Nunu against TSM 'cause of TOO.

I did not know that! Before my time, I suppose. I will say, TOO seems really comfortable on Nunu, and I didn't think he'd played him a lot in the past 8 months.

His E used to basically root at lvl1 (40% slow), his ganks were godlike at that time :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 13 2012 03:34 GMT
#1193
first i was like "sick aoe protect the kog comp, curse got this!". then nunu happened =/
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2012 03:36 GMT
#1194
On August 13 2012 12:34 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 12:32 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On August 13 2012 12:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 13 2012 12:26 GeorgeForeman wrote:
So I guess Nunu is the new Shyvanna?

lol. more like shyvana was the new nunu. Nunu was the original counterjungle champ and TOO was King Nunu back in the day. Teams used to perma-ban Nunu against TSM 'cause of TOO.

I did not know that! Before my time, I suppose. I will say, TOO seems really comfortable on Nunu, and I didn't think he'd played him a lot in the past 8 months.

His E used to basically root, his ganks were godlike at that time :p

Nunu's E didn't scale with levels in terms of slow. It did lvl 5 slow at lvl 1.

Nunu became less popular 'cause of Q and E nerfs, but also 'cause super fast clearing junglers got really popular and in new jungle Nunu's counterjungling's kinda worthless against those guys since the camps are cleared by the time Nunu gets there.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 13 2012 03:36 GMT
#1195
Amumu isn't even that far behind. It's not that big of a deal. With how level scaling works in LoL Saint will be caught up super soon. the problem is Westrice and Cop are really behind in farm.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2012 03:37 GMT
#1196
Amumu works perfectly fine as an ult bot anyways so as long as Crs's carries get the farm they'll be fine.
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
August 13 2012 03:38 GMT
#1197
Crs srsly needs to slap elementz in the face.....stealling kills 24/7.....
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 03:41:55
August 13 2012 03:38 GMT
#1198
On August 13 2012 12:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
Nunu's E didn't scale with levels in terms of slow. It did lvl 5 slow at lvl 1.

This is wrong. The level 5 slow was the same as it is now.
They nerfed the slow from 40%->60% over 5 ranks to 20%->60% over 5 ranks.


EDIT: OK, it was changed to 40%->60% in Garen patch, but, well, that was WAY a ways ago. Before TSM even existed as a team and before TOO was even a dedicated jungler.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 13 2012 03:38 GMT
#1199
If Crs stacks their ults right, none of the early counter-jungling will probably matter.

If they get their ults right though. Otherwise they just explode.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
August 13 2012 03:39 GMT
#1200
Ammu basically didn't have any map pressure for the first 10 minutes or so, TSM took a free dragon off of it.
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