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mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
June 09 2012 22:14 GMT
#941
On June 10 2012 07:13 Takkara wrote:
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On June 10 2012 07:12 mcimba42 wrote:
clg taking it easily when tsm doesnt just pull off some cheap cheese early game


In what way was that taking it easily? It was a <1k gold game the entire game and only really turned south for TSM when Froggen got the quadra kill after TSM got Baron and killed 2 CLG.eu players.

That game was really close man.

no way man clg had it easy
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 09 2012 22:14 GMT
#942
And we can see all the kot ult nerfs are justified.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
June 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#943
Crossing my fingers for Froggen Ori next game. Assuming TSM bans Anivia AND Kog, then Froggen will play either Ori or Ahri right?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#944
On June 10 2012 07:14 Sqq wrote:
The stats for AP Kog are idiotic, but very few people can play him well. Is there any mid as good as Froggen atm ? Can't remember the last time i saw him lose mid.

If we're gonna measure how op a hero is by the way froggen plays it, i'd say anivia is higher on that list. It just gets banned every game so we only see kogmaw for now.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#945
On June 10 2012 07:13 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:12 mcimba42 wrote:
clg taking it easily when tsm doesnt just pull off some cheap cheese early game


In what way was that taking it easily? It was a <1k gold game the entire game and only really turned south for TSM when Froggen got the quadra kill after TSM got Baron and killed 2 CLG.eu players.

That game was really close man.

even after the quadra it was still >1k difference. CLG really pulled ahead when Chaox derped into all 5 of CLG trying to chase down Yellowpete through Soraka burst heal and Shen ult.

even tho froggen carried the shit out of that, you really can't ignore how well all of CLG played and their picks. Between shen ult and soraka heal/ult TSM couldn't kill shit.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#946
On June 10 2012 07:14 Slusher wrote:
yea, nerf a character based on a full item build on most likely the best ap mid in the entire tournament....

That on top of that has a very weak early and mid game and is played by noone except Froggen.
Off-season = best season
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
June 09 2012 22:16 GMT
#947
not enough hard CC + too much protection + froggen being godlike. rofl
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
June 09 2012 22:16 GMT
#948
On June 10 2012 07:15 Treadmill wrote:
Crossing my fingers for Froggen Ori next game. Assuming TSM bans Anivia AND Kog, then Froggen will play either Ori or Ahri right?


Either one of those or Morgana.
I don't think he would go for Annie in a Game 3.
"My spoon is too big."
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
June 09 2012 22:16 GMT
#949
On June 10 2012 07:15 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:14 Slusher wrote:
yea, nerf a character based on a full item build on most likely the best ap mid in the entire tournament....

That on top of that has a very weak early and mid game and is played by noone except Froggen.


and sometimes jiji. but not to as much success.
derp
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 09 2012 22:16 GMT
#950
On June 10 2012 07:14 Qualm wrote:
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On June 10 2012 07:10 Treadmill wrote:
Dunno why they picked Karthus into Kog'Maw twice. It just seems like a bad matchup. Maybe not in lane, but definitely in teamfights.

Yeah IDK. Both just get to farm a shitload and Kog ends up being stronger with it because his team isn't forced to dive Karthus to kill him in fights.

I didn't see the picks and assumed CLG picked Kog to counter Karthus, not the other way around. :o


No they just first picked Kogmaw.


On June 10 2012 07:15 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:13 Takkara wrote:
On June 10 2012 07:12 mcimba42 wrote:
clg taking it easily when tsm doesnt just pull off some cheap cheese early game


In what way was that taking it easily? It was a <1k gold game the entire game and only really turned south for TSM when Froggen got the quadra kill after TSM got Baron and killed 2 CLG.eu players.

That game was really close man.

even after the quadra it was still >1k difference. CLG really pulled ahead when Chaox derped into all 5 of CLG trying to chase down Yellowpete through Soraka burst heal and Shen ult.

even tho froggen carried the shit out of that, you really can't ignore how well all of CLG played and their picks. Between shen ult and soraka heal/ult TSM couldn't kill shit.



Yeah, CLG's peels were just great.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 09 2012 22:16 GMT
#951
On June 10 2012 07:15 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:14 Slusher wrote:
yea, nerf a character based on a full item build on most likely the best ap mid in the entire tournament....

That on top of that has a very weak early and mid game and is played by noone except Froggen.

Jiji, Regi, Nyjacky all can play a strong AP Koggles to varying degrees.

But man. Froggen is like the ban soaker for CLG.EU. And even then they still can't shut him down sheesh. 16-0. Disgusting.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 09 2012 22:17 GMT
#952
On June 10 2012 07:14 Slusher wrote:
yea, nerf a character based on a full item build on most likely the best ap mid in the entire tournament....


They already nerfed him before the tournament started, on Tuesday. This tournament played on Darius patch though.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
June 09 2012 22:17 GMT
#953
Wow what a series, Froggen's kog was just INSANE his auto attacks pretty much did more dmg than the AD carries

Only complaint is dan dinh...I appreciate his knowledge of the game but its just getting annoying
Jaedong :D
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#954
Pretty pointless to try and ban out froggen imo.
TSM should just pick strong lanes so they can dominate that blue buff like they did in game 1.
Cackle™
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
June 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#955
One of the things Scarra said about Froggen's KogMaw is he goes tear/rylai's instead of building RoA like Jacky. The only way he can get away with it because they always pick a Soraka support to go with AP Kog. Early Rylai's so scary, pick away Soraka if you can I guess, didn't catch the picks.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 22:22:34
June 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#956
imo banning mids isn't worth it vs. CLG.EU Froggen has more than 5 champs he can carry with


On June 10 2012 07:17 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:14 Slusher wrote:
yea, nerf a character based on a full item build on most likely the best ap mid in the entire tournament....


They already nerfed him before the tournament started, on Tuesday. This tournament played on Darius patch though.


Actually mentioned this already but I'm still annoyed by the trend to say, ban this ban that when you see a good performance in a tournament.

people gotta keep in mind he was 0/0/4 until TSM made a very dicy Baron call with all members starting sub 50% essentially jailbreaking him from early game ap kog a good 10 min before anyone on TSM was "lategame"


On June 10 2012 07:18 BlackMagister wrote:
One of the things Scarra said about Froggen's KogMaw is he goes tear/rylai's instead of building RoA like Jacky. The only way he can get away with it because they always pick a Soraka support to go with AP Kog. Early Rylai's so scary, pick away Soraka if you can I guess, didn't catch the picks.


I saw this too, (I use Jackie's build) it actually was super strong, it's what got him the 4th kill at baron for sure.
Carrilord has arrived.
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
June 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#957
anyone got a quick recap of tsm evo match today?

also, according to the bracket curse will play clg. that should be good times.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
June 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#958
On June 10 2012 07:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:14 Sqq wrote:
The stats for AP Kog are idiotic, but very few people can play him well. Is there any mid as good as Froggen atm ? Can't remember the last time i saw him lose mid.

If we're gonna measure how op a hero is by the way froggen plays it, i'd say anivia is higher on that list. It just gets banned every game so we only see kogmaw for now.


I agree his Anivia is better but that doesn't say a lot. His AP Kog is probably the best out there (Along with Anivia)
Dead girls don't say no.
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
June 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#959
On June 10 2012 07:17 Neverhood wrote:
Only complaint is dan dinh...I appreciate his knowledge of the game but its just getting annoying

what the hell are you talking about man get hyped for solomid.net v5 motherfuckers
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 09 2012 22:19 GMT
#960
On June 10 2012 07:14 Sqq wrote:
The stats for AP Kog are idiotic, but very few people can play him well. Is there any mid as good as Froggen atm ? Can't remember the last time i saw him lose mid.

In 90% of the games, he does not die. I am not even kidding, that is about the statistic. He is INSANELY good..
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