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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#1501
On April 07 2012 08:56 HazMat wrote:
Not gonna lie, I was 100% expecting a comeback. Dig never fail me :D


Not even in Hannover? :D
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 06 2012 23:58 GMT
#1502
It wasn't just morgana, 4/5 of mono's team built the wrong items and couldn't do anything in teamfights
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 06 2012 23:58 GMT
#1503
and @ everyone calling Mm bad, particularly zig, you are wrong. They are great players and great solo performers. Zig in particular always is amazing in solo q. They just aren't used to tournament 5v5 LAN!!! play. To put the hurt on Dignitas like they did in all 3 games was incredible, give these guys a few months and they could be winners.

As far as item choices, yeah, they looked pretty suspect - they looked like solo q builds lol. Whatever. Great (sloppy!) games.
Anything is Possible
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 06 2012 23:58 GMT
#1504
Hopefully we'll get to see CLG vs Dig but I feel like they'll stream TSM vs Curse since Curse hasn't had a game streamed. Both are gonna be sick games but CLG vs Dig should be amazing.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 23:59:05
April 06 2012 23:58 GMT
#1505
On April 07 2012 08:58 HazMat wrote:
Hopefully we'll get to see CLG vs Dig but I feel like they'll stream TSM vs Curse since Curse hasn't had a game streamed. Both are gonna be sick games but CLG vs Dig should be amazing.


I really wanna see Curse play. When Jacky. Pobe, and Crumbzz are on, they are so fun to watch.
Anything is Possible
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 00:00:42
April 06 2012 23:59 GMT
#1506
On April 07 2012 08:52 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 08:51 GranDim wrote:
On April 07 2012 08:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 07 2012 08:39 Capped wrote:
On April 07 2012 08:37 Woony wrote:
On April 07 2012 08:35 DonKey_ wrote:
For those who missed them the Mono vs. M5 IPL 4 qualifier games http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol/b/309746885
Mono didn't just win; they won convincingly.


m5 played with like 300 ping though


Evidence? TSM reach EU with ~100ping.

I reach NA with ~100ping.

My friends reach NA with ~100 ping.

TSM, nor me, nor my friends have major issues playing cross server.

Why is M5 badly effected? :D

I have about an average 170 ping.
And most eastern European countries have way worse intercontinental connection.

300 is a bit much but 220-250 is entirely possible.

Not bashing Mono or making excuses, but don't laugh off 250 ping, it's a lot.


A rough calculation puts Moscow > LA > Moscow at a little over 100 MS only counting the speed of light in fiber (10000 KM between the two cities, more likely 12000 considering its not a straight path, about 5 MS per 1000 KM) a minimum of 200 MS is a fair considering switching/routing/processing speed


You can't assume they were using fiber...


Even if the whole local loop is cooper (and that would only be Russian side, Riot as fiber in their data center with 100% certainty), its only going to be like 0.001% of the path length.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 06 2012 23:59 GMT
#1507
On April 07 2012 08:57 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 08:56 HazMat wrote:
Not gonna lie, I was 100% expecting a comeback. Dig never fail me :D


Not even in Hannover? :D

Haha didn't watch Hannover. EU timezone too strong when I have school at 6am.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 06 2012 23:59 GMT
#1508
On April 07 2012 08:58 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 08:58 HazMat wrote:
Hopefully we'll get to see CLG vs Dig but I feel like they'll stream TSM vs Curse since Curse hasn't had a game streamed. Both are gonna be sick games but CLG vs Dig should be amazing.


I really wanna see Curse play. When Jacky. Pobe, and Crumbzz are on, they are so fun to watch.

Crumbzz is a sexy beast. Both in his play and looks.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
April 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1509
I dont understand how Dignitas came back from that
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
April 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1510
On April 07 2012 08:56 LaM wrote:
The most absurd comeback. Absolutely ridiculous. That shows you the difference between some really good high elo players (Mm) and a really good tournament TEAM (Dignitas). D got crushed in lane and in 1v1s/2v2s (in all 3 games in fact), but when the teamfighting/objective play broke out - Dignitas was dominant.

Still, a worrying performance from Dignitas for any fans.

Not sure how you get a reasoning into the high elo players beating dignitas lanes 1v1/2v2.

Scarra is notorious candidate for rank 1 soloqueue, with another account in the top 25s and voyboy is up there with him. Dunno about the other guys, but i'm sure they're not bad either.

Objective play... well. Dignitas didnt even challenge. they lost their lanes and challenged none of the dragons and 1st baron until they suddenly came in for the second baron and barely won that fight. Well played by them, but i can't understand your reasoning vs their own solo elo.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1511
dig out comped mm so hard. they have soraka and taric armor buff and mm only magic damage is morg. morg does her damage but her long cool downs stop her from doing significant sustained damage. as long dig doesnt let anyone die to morg they have so much armor that the rest of the team cant really do much. you can see the planing in their builds too. olaf build shurelya's into warmogs to take advantage of all the armor buffs and to help get away from morg ult.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1512
That's 5 heals, 4 of them aoe, also mundo ult, and the fact that dig had more aoe for team fights. Then they didn't focus voyboy, instead putting damage into soraka and the tanks. Then compare lee sin to olaf in late game team fights, and lee sin just can't do anything compared to true damage zerg.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1513
On April 07 2012 08:58 HazMat wrote:
Hopefully we'll get to see CLG vs Dig but I feel like they'll stream TSM vs Curse since Curse hasn't had a game streamed. Both are gonna be sick games but CLG vs Dig should be amazing.


Yeah, I feel like CLG and Dig are both stronger than TSM/Curse. It'd be way cooler to watch that match.
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
April 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#1514
On April 07 2012 08:58 LaM wrote:
and @ everyone calling Mm bad, particularly zig, you are wrong. They are great players and great solo performers. Zig in particular always is amazing in solo q. They just aren't used to tournament 5v5 LAN!!! play. To put the hurt on Dignitas like they did in all 3 games was incredible, give these guys a few months and they could be winners.

As far as item choices, yeah, they looked pretty suspect - they looked like solo q builds lol. Whatever. Great (sloppy!) games.


anyone knows why wildturtle got removed/left?
I dont think zionspartan is any good at all. I expect him to be removed soon.. haha
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
April 07 2012 00:02 GMT
#1515
Was that a thornmail on Riven at the end?
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 07 2012 00:02 GMT
#1516
On April 07 2012 09:00 vasculaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 08:58 LaM wrote:
and @ everyone calling Mm bad, particularly zig, you are wrong. They are great players and great solo performers. Zig in particular always is amazing in solo q. They just aren't used to tournament 5v5 LAN!!! play. To put the hurt on Dignitas like they did in all 3 games was incredible, give these guys a few months and they could be winners.

As far as item choices, yeah, they looked pretty suspect - they looked like solo q builds lol. Whatever. Great (sloppy!) games.


anyone knows why wildturtle got removed/left?
I dont think zionspartan is any good at all. I expect him to be removed soon.. haha

Turtle's parents wouldn't let him play LoL at the pro-level and go to Vegas.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 07 2012 00:02 GMT
#1517
On April 07 2012 09:00 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 08:56 LaM wrote:
The most absurd comeback. Absolutely ridiculous. That shows you the difference between some really good high elo players (Mm) and a really good tournament TEAM (Dignitas). D got crushed in lane and in 1v1s/2v2s (in all 3 games in fact), but when the teamfighting/objective play broke out - Dignitas was dominant.

Still, a worrying performance from Dignitas for any fans.

Not sure how you get a reasoning into the high elo players beating dignitas lanes 1v1/2v2.

Scarra is notorious candidate for rank 1 soloqueue, with another account in the top 25s and voyboy is up there with him. Dunno about the other guys, but i'm sure they're not bad either.

Objective play... well. Dignitas didnt even challenge. they lost their lanes and challenged none of the dragons and 1st baron until they suddenly came in for the second baron and barely won that fight. Well played by them, but i can't understand your reasoning vs their own solo elo.


What? It's pretty easy to understand. Any high ELO player can win a lane against another high ELO player, but winning a tournament game takes the type of coordination and experience that beating a high ELO solo q player doesn't give. Thus, Mono can win lanes as much as they want, but they don't have the 5v5 chops to take home the games.

What is not to understand.
Anything is Possible
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 07 2012 00:04 GMT
#1518
On April 07 2012 08:56 HazMat wrote:
Not gonna lie, I was 100% expecting a comeback. Dig never fail me :D


I tried to tell everyone, but it seems the faith in Dignitas isn't strong with this newer generation.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 07 2012 00:06 GMT
#1519
I really enjoy how much Dignitas members trust/respect one another, because you need that to keep their game together when the situation is so bad.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 07 2012 00:07 GMT
#1520
IPL site says their going to be showing TSM vs. Curse. =(
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