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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 15:52:35
January 21 2012 15:52 GMT
#2161
Not even close.
WriterXiao8~~
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 21 2012 15:52 GMT
#2162
torn, it was worth watching to see how m5 played, yet no at the same by how one sided their great playing made the game
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 21 2012 15:53 GMT
#2163
On January 22 2012 00:51 BlackMagister wrote:
Ehh why does Ryze have Shueilas?

Probably because in M5's playstyle he's the CC initiator/shotcaller
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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
January 21 2012 15:53 GMT
#2164
M5 meta: if a buff is up, go for it with everyone.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 15:54:28
January 21 2012 15:53 GMT
#2165
game 2 end screen

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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 21 2012 15:53 GMT
#2166
While most match are really played between bot and mid, it feels like M5 really don't care with bot and is mainly playing around top and mid, that's where they really win imo.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 15:55:40
January 21 2012 15:55 GMT
#2167
On January 22 2012 00:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
1. Ryze is so stupid in this current patch when he has Red. More teams should pick him at Kiev imoimo.
2. M5's "weakest" lane is definitely their bot lane. Genja is less orthodox is how he doesn't hard carry like most other Ranged AD players. Teams need to realize this and tackle it somehow when facing M5.

I think we should wait until the rest of Genja's team doesn't completely rape the opposing team to see him carry... it's true that AD carry just kicks in later, maybe they just always win before he gets to carry?

Also btw I'm not sure what you even mean, both this and the last game he played amazingly
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Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2666 Posts
January 21 2012 15:55 GMT
#2168
On January 22 2012 00:50 phyvo wrote:
This reminds me of when TSM first started stealing enemy blues as a team and destroyed other teams as a result except that M5 seems to have taken it to the next level.


I'm glad it's not just me who remembers that TSM used to play like this. Obviously it's no where near this level but at some point they just became a normal American team.

Having fun watching M5 roll over everyone though. Hoping this prompts other teams to try overhauls. Competitive LoL has a tendancy to have a team revolutionise something that people pick up on for a little while then all of a sudden everyone forgets about it and goes back to playing how they used to.
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necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 15:56:24
January 21 2012 15:56 GMT
#2169
This is what went through my head everytime Shyvana stole a buff:
Shadow of his former self.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 15:57:31
January 21 2012 15:56 GMT
#2170
What do people think of the whole Wriggle+Doran stacking? The Chinese teams also used this build at IEM last year so it can't be a coincidence. MF actually got an IE this game, but opened Wriggle triple doran zeal zerkers before starting on IE (boots 1 somewhere in the wriggle/doran area).

M5's bottom only looks bad because their other lanes are so good that their bottom looks bad in comparison. When the bottom was on stream it looked like they were trading very well with Candypanda.
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
January 21 2012 15:56 GMT
#2171
Apart from Renekton, SK actually had a decent line-up this game compared to last. While M5 sported a typically weaker bot lane with MF+Taric vs soraka + Sivir. Yet M5 stomped them even harder.
here i am
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 21 2012 15:56 GMT
#2172
Hahhaha YES OCE!
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 21 2012 15:57 GMT
#2173
Both the games were stomp boy.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
January 21 2012 15:57 GMT
#2174
On January 22 2012 00:53 WhiteDog wrote:
While most match are really played between bot and mid, it feels like M5 really don't care with bot and is mainly playing around top and mid, that's where they really win imo.


Yeah, there's definately a bruiser-y/duelist feel to how they play bot, with Genja consistently building DBlade stack, Wriggles, Zeal=>PD and only getting an IEdge if the game goes on long enough to warrant it; Gosu Pepper's Taric had HoG, Ruby Crystal and only a Faerie Charm instead of a Philo.
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romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
January 21 2012 15:57 GMT
#2175
Did Oce just call the first game fine?!?! My definition of fine is the opposite of wat happend to them game 1 >.<
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 21 2012 15:57 GMT
#2176
On January 22 2012 00:57 romanov wrote:
Did Oce just call the first game fine?!?! My definition of fine is the opposite of wat happend to them game 1 >.<

Dont think they saw the gold difference. K/d wise it was okay :D
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luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
January 21 2012 15:58 GMT
#2177
On January 22 2012 00:48 Gahlo wrote:
Don't get me wrong, M5 is playing some very impressive play but....these have just been such boring games to watch. A majority of the game time is formality.

I think this is the major issue with LoL for spectators. Usually the last 15 or so minutes are just a slow death of one team. There are exceptions of course but 4 out of 5 games have the winner decided after 20 minutes.
M5 will probably win. I like TSM but M5 just seem like this unstoppable force right now.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 21 2012 15:59 GMT
#2178
On January 22 2012 00:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
What do people think of the whole Wriggle+Doran stacking? The Chinese teams also used this build at IEM last year so it can't be a coincidence. MF actually got an IE this game, but opened Wriggle triple doran zeal zerkers before starting on IE (boots 1 somewhere in the wriggle/doran area).

M5's bottom only looks bad because their other lanes are so good that their bottom looks bad in comparison. When the bottom was on stream it looked like they were trading very well with Candypanda.


I feel like this stems from the fact that M5 jungler is so active in counter jungling and contesting enemy buffs so he spends very little attention to bot lane, so bot lane plays early/mid game safe style, dorans+wriggles. They know they don't need to bring that IE to bear that early, they'll just need to do their thing in the lane and survive.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 21 2012 15:59 GMT
#2179
Thats not a reason to not ban Shyvana LOL

Hes not answering the question.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 21 2012 15:59 GMT
#2180
Dignitas might just get their rematch. One man still has faith at least ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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