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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#1481
On August 20 2011 00:20 scintilliaSD wrote:
Hotshot Nidalee GG
Hotshot Cho'gath GG
Hotshot Jax GG

What to do?

He hasn't even played Galio yet, and Galio definitely has the potential to be gamechanging against an European double AP setup.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 19 2011 17:04 GMT
#1482
Is it just me or does teh Riot IEM homepage not work?
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
August 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#1483
God ow3nd.tv is such a shit video player, half of these VODs don't even load properly and are mislabeled.
aLuLz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
August 19 2011 17:06 GMT
#1484
zenon is such a horrible caster..0 game understanding..


User was warned for this post
LancerStarcraft
Profile Joined July 2010
United States235 Posts
August 19 2011 17:24 GMT
#1485
On August 20 2011 02:06 aLuLz wrote:
zenon is such a horrible caster..0 game understanding..


"Be still, my beating heart" - Zenon

Zenon loads better than most of the people that cast.
"Buy a ward. Stop a gank. Save a life."
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 19 2011 17:40 GMT
#1486
On August 20 2011 02:06 aLuLz wrote:
zenon is such a horrible caster..0 game understanding..

are we hearing the same?

He has like so much better analysis than the other guy
In the woods, there lurks..
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 19 2011 17:51 GMT
#1487
On August 20 2011 02:06 aLuLz wrote:
zenon is such a horrible caster..0 game understanding..


Yeah to be honest he is one of the best casters compared to who we have on the scene as is.
Watch the Season One Championships and the two casting teams.
Compare Phreak/whoever vs. Zenon/Rivington.
No contest.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 19 2011 17:54 GMT
#1488
There are subtle things he doesn't get but that's more-or-less to be expected when someone who's not THAT good at the game tries to commentate, and that's fine. Like I thought fnatic's charge up mid to force fight away from jungle was ingenius, because they had the confidence to win 5v5 and desperately needed to force a fight away from tight enclosures (where LS and Anivia reign).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 18:03:44
August 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#1489
On August 20 2011 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 02:06 aLuLz wrote:
zenon is such a horrible caster..0 game understanding..


Yeah to be honest he is one of the best casters compared to who we have on the scene as is.
Watch the Season One Championships and the two casting teams.
Compare Phreak/whoever vs. Zenon/Rivington.
No contest.


Colby+guardsman please. Also long haired eu guy(forgot name) from riot is good as well. Have heard these guys try to attach skills from other characters multiple times this weekend and they seem to have no idea about current metas and setups outside the super standard ladder.

Btw na 6-0 so far gogo tsm clg final since it is the old consistent.

Anyone happen to know what the emsvii final is for tomorrow.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
August 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#1490
Zenon really doesn't understand but he's at least funny. Like his comments about how hotshot must be trolling to have a recurve bow on cho'gath when wit's end is super common on him. Also the analysis of Ori vs Kass lane where they commented how well Salce is playing to deny Kass cs, when it's blue buff + chalice Ori vs a Kass with tear...nearly anyone could get ahead in CS in that scenario.

I thought the best part was when they didn't ban Orianna and Zenon commented something like "Orianna is SUPER OP." (game very balanced)
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 19 2011 18:05 GMT
#1491
On August 20 2011 03:03 rob.au wrote:
Zenon really doesn't understand but he's at least funny. Like his comments about how hotshot must be trolling to have a recurve bow on cho'gath when wit's end is super common on him. Also the analysis of Ori vs Kass lane where they commented how well Salce is playing to deny Kass cs, when it's blue buff + chalice Ori vs a Kass with tear...nearly anyone could get ahead in CS in that scenario.

I thought the best part was when they didn't ban Orianna and Zenon commented something like "Orianna is SUPER OP." (game very balanced)


Well that is what bans are for, the problem with her was it took top players a while to get good with her, so it seemed like she was balanced for a while.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 18:11:47
August 19 2011 18:06 GMT
#1492
On August 20 2011 03:03 rob.au wrote:
Zenon really doesn't understand but he's at least funny. Like his comments about how hotshot must be trolling to have a recurve bow on cho'gath when wit's end is super common on him. Also the analysis of Ori vs Kass lane where they commented how well Salce is playing to deny Kass cs, when it's blue buff + chalice Ori vs a Kass with tear...nearly anyone could get ahead in CS in that scenario.

I thought the best part was when they didn't ban Orianna and Zenon commented something like "Orianna is SUPER OP." (game very balanced)


It's also funny they thought the jax pick day 1 was trolling that they forgot to switch out last second when he has proven to be good in the current meta both top and shitting on support carry bot with soraka.

Prophetic post that i said a page or 2 ago that sk was overated. Wickd went full retard in the fnatic game and his pick+buying probably cost them the game despite how hard fnatic tried to keep them in it.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
doppr
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway83 Posts
August 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#1493
I'm having a problem with the own3d.tv vod player. When a vod that is longer than something around 1 hour, it just starts to buffer and never starts playing again.

In the Fnatic vs SK game the vod streamer stops at around 1.07 (around 42 min ingame time). So annoying.

Anyone else experienced this/got any fixes?
Hi all
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
August 19 2011 18:09 GMT
#1494
None of the "current" commentators are any good, except maybe TreeEskimo ? Havent heard a lot from him anyway. They're either not enjoyable or (most of the time) completely clueless. Joe is an actual professional caster but he doesnt know anything about LoL and though he's learning fast, he's still herping a bit.
Stormy
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 18:20:45
August 19 2011 18:16 GMT
#1495
On August 20 2011 03:09 Microchaton wrote:
None of the "current" commentators are any good, except maybe TreeEskimo ? Havent heard a lot from him anyway. They're either not enjoyable or (most of the time) completely clueless. Joe is an actual professional caster but he doesnt know anything about LoL and though he's learning fast, he's still herping a bit.


You don't like colbycheeze+guardsman at all? They do a lot of the us nesl stuff although I imagine the euros don't follow them as much. They are fairly knowledgeable and gmb has dat voice.

As for as own3d I wouldn't be surprised if their servers melted down between dota2 and lol tournies this weekend. The official vods are not up though yet and the ones from tsm seem to freeze.


+ Show Spoiler +
Just saw scoreboard from clg vs sk is wickd the new hotshot? ban his main and he goes full retard and loses the game everytime?
Ignore my opinions I am bad
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 19 2011 18:28 GMT
#1496
On August 20 2011 03:16 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:09 Microchaton wrote:
None of the "current" commentators are any good, except maybe TreeEskimo ? Havent heard a lot from him anyway. They're either not enjoyable or (most of the time) completely clueless. Joe is an actual professional caster but he doesnt know anything about LoL and though he's learning fast, he's still herping a bit.


You don't like colbycheeze+guardsman at all? They do a lot of the us nesl stuff although I imagine the euros don't follow them as much. They are fairly knowledgeable and gmb has dat voice.

As for as own3d I wouldn't be surprised if their servers melted down between dota2 and lol tournies this weekend. The official vods are not up though yet and the ones from tsm seem to freeze.


+ Show Spoiler +
Just saw scoreboard from clg vs sk is wickd the new hotshot? ban his main and he goes full retard and loses the game everytime?


I disagree on ColbyCheeze. He says some of the most retarded stuff ever and I personally find him annoying. I usually am at least "ok" with most commentators even if they don't know what they're talking about but I really dislike Colby's casting. Just me though.

I really hope CLG and TSM can meet in the finals. I remember them saying that the trip would only be profitable if they take first or second so it'd be really cool to see both teams actually benefit financially from the trip.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
August 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#1497
In the great commentary debate I think Phreak + the funny guy who has been casting all day would be best. Not Riot one but other guy with shorter hair.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 19 2011 18:38 GMT
#1498
Smash with ~5 beers + Turkey would be a good commentary.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 19 2011 18:38 GMT
#1499
Zenon is very nice to listen to, although he might not understand the game as well as phreak/colby/joe/tree. Sometimes when i listen to phreak, a part of myself dies >_>
hi
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 19 2011 18:41 GMT
#1500
Do the skin codes given out at Gamescom work on US server?
God Bless
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