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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:14 Ansibled wrote: I mean the alternative would be a bo1 round robin most likely, I prefer this format. It would be better if it was bo3 though. Well round robin would be more games and less luck involved, I dont get why GSL format is supposed to be better. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Group A Sk - 1 EU GE - 1 LCK Flash wolves - 2 Taiwan C9 - 2 NA Group B TSM - 1 NA Gambit - 4 EU CJ - 3/4th LCK WE - 11th LPL It's what happens when you base seeding on irrelevant tournaments. Even if you assume that WE being 11th in LPL equates to just as strong as 2 in NA you still have both top teams in LCK/EU and 2nd best team in NA all in the same group. On March 04 2015 03:15 Redox wrote: Well round robin would be more games and less luck involved, I dont get why GSL format is supposed to be better. People prefer GSL because it eliminates a situation where a team requires a win against a team that is already knocked out of the tournament or the inverse where a team is already guaranteed a spot. This means teams that played that team prior to the last game are potentially at a disadvantage. | ||
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Arpejjio
United States130 Posts
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:14 Ansibled wrote: I mean the alternative would be a bo1 round robin most likely, I prefer this format. It would be better if it was bo3 though. The funny thing is when people don't understand the format and think the entire tournament is double elimination and start yelling abuse at IEM on Reddit about how unfair it is. Standart bo2 round robin, like old OGN is the best for league. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:20 Numy wrote: Group A Sk - 1 EU GE - 1 LCK Flash wolves - 2 Taiwan C9 - 2 NA Group B TSM - 1 NA Gambit - 4 EU CJ - 3/4th LCK WE - 11th LPL It's what happens when you base seeding on irrelevant tournaments. Even if you assume that WE being 11th in LPL equates to just as strong as 2 in NA you still have both top teams in LCK/EU and 2nd best team in NA all in the same group. I dont get how the number within the region matters so much. Imo WE should be stronger than FW, and Gambit just as strong as SK. This is how I see it: GE > CJ C9 = TSM SK = Gambit yoeFW < WE Absolutely even groups imo. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Arpejjio
United States130 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:23 orzeu wrote: Standart bo2 round robin, like old OGN is the best for league. Would you say it's better for Bo2 spread out, or having the two games played consecutively? Both have their pros and cons. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:24 Redox wrote: I dont get how the number within the region matters so much. Imo WE should be stronger than FW, and Gambit just as strong as SK. This is how I see it: GE > CJ C9 = TSM SK = Gambit yoeFW < WE Absolutely even groups imo. Numbers matter because they are the only way to objectively judge strength. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:28 Numy wrote: Numbers matter because they are the only way to objectively judge strength. So you dont disagree with my view that they actual strength of the teams is similar? Btw its not like I am 100% sure on this, I have actually no idea about the Taiwanese league. :D | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:25 Arpejjio wrote: Would you say it's better for Bo2 spread out, or having the two games played consecutively? Both have their pros and cons. For weekly tournament together (OGN), for 3/4 days tournament (IEM) doesn't really matter, but I can see argument for spread out, first day - one game, second day - rematch. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:30 Redox wrote: So you dont disagree with my view that they actual strength of the teams is similar? Btw its not like I am 100% sure on this, I have actually no idea about the Taiwanese league. :D It really depends on how you view Gambit, Wolves and WE. Is an awful WE still able to contend? How good is wolves really? Then is Gambit's recent streak going to continue or is is just a honeymoon period with a new midlaner? Overall group A feels stronger than B as GE is the clear favourite to win the whole tournament and C9 is better than TSM when it comes to international competition. You can always trust in Dyrus/WT to tilt feed against good teams. SK weakness in EU is really due to teams knowing their style of play which could mean the int teams aren't really that prepared and let them do what they want. Anyway that's all opinion though so at the end of the day it doesn't mean much. They didn't seed based on opinion but instead based on results from prior tournaments that doesn't reflect the current teams at all which is the main issue. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 04 2015 03:57 AlterKot wrote: Notice that they seeded 1) by region 2) by whether you won an IEM or got an invite, so really no other way to do it unbiased. People are truly whining for nothing, those groups were expected to be like that anyway, after you drop Koreans in different groups, Americans and Europeans and WE/YoeFW can't be with C9/Gambit in same time. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
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Marmy
Iran1697 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:19 Marmy wrote: Prediction: TSM Wins GG That way you can spam TSM in the CLG thread some more. I don't see TSM going far in the tournament. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 04 2015 04:41 wei2coolman wrote: Rooting for the WE upset. Is it seriously going to be upset? With all white guys achievements at this point, getting a win against 10th-11th best LPL team is success already. Ninja's icebird will kill Bjergsen and Spirit will body Santorin, all good. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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