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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
January 11 2015 08:39 GMT
#21
TL Academy team?

Please recruit the legendary NA IH player Marmy.
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Eviox
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3 Posts
January 11 2015 09:14 GMT
#22
Never heard of Hard or Solo but I hope Yusui and LOD do well.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 11 2015 09:16 GMT
#23
On January 11 2015 18:14 Eviox wrote:
Never heard of Hard or Solo but I hope Yusui and LOD do well.

Perhaps you heard of Solo as when he was TheSoloKing on zenith?
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deleuzed
Profile Joined October 2012
United States32 Posts
January 11 2015 09:17 GMT
#24
Top spot in challenger seeding into the LCS is a pretty big deal. Wonder if these guys will be able to compete.
Chriis
Profile Joined January 2015
Germany8 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 09:20:05
January 11 2015 09:18 GMT
#25
It's nice to see Cloud9 being one of the first teams to develop a sister team, sad thing is that koreans did this already one year ago.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 11 2015 11:54 GMT
#26
Yeah C9 never took their challenger teams as seriously as Curse. There was no help from main team's coaches/analysists (not that they had many I guess :p), no practice between challengers and teams, obviously no roster swaps between those as well. They just picked two promising squads (The Walking Zed and Apples is sour) and called it a day. So this is much different.
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Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
January 11 2015 12:29 GMT
#27
This looks like it could be a strong squad. If they can qualify for LCS only time will tell.
Hathsin
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany29 Posts
January 11 2015 12:43 GMT
#28
On January 11 2015 17:24 LiQuiD112 wrote:
Team looks pretty good

We will be announcing our TL Academy team soon

Nice! Cant wait :D
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
January 11 2015 13:42 GMT
#29
On January 11 2015 17:24 LiQuiD112 wrote:
Team looks pretty good

We will be announcing our TL Academy team soon


Hey Liquid, since apparently you can't sub in challenger players into LCS teams (CLG situation), can you sub in challenger players from TL academy into TL for example or is this still not allowed?
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vulpino
Profile Joined January 2015
United States8 Posts
January 11 2015 15:09 GMT
#30
On January 11 2015 13:58 Baffels wrote:
Cloud9 seems to have a knack for finding and refining talent. Hoping to see LOD and Yusui succeed. Also never heard of Solo or Hard so that's always a treat after having followed the scene for awhile.


Solo was known as TheSoloKing, I believe, and played for ZEN (Zenith eSports). Hard has been a solo queue superstar for some time now, but not much else.

I'm excited to see how the squad shapes up. Hard seems incredibly promising, LOD and Yusui are veterans of the scene, Solo was a superstar of the top lane who should be able to continue his success here, and Stixxay is...well, I don't know much about him as I didn't see Denial play very much. Overall an incredibly promising team.
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scryor
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia4 Posts
January 11 2015 15:25 GMT
#31
Yusui will be the next NA hope calling it now
Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
January 11 2015 15:41 GMT
#32
On January 12 2015 00:25 scryor wrote:
Yusui will be the next NA hope calling it now


Will be? He already is, everybody is hyping him up so massively..
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
January 12 2015 02:39 GMT
#33
I thought Stixxay mained ADC? o_o
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Shatterfront
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia77 Posts
January 12 2015 03:00 GMT
#34
This roster looks alright. Not surprising orgs are picking up Challenger teams again, especially after Liquid (the person) succeeded in selling off CA. Auto-promotion into LCS means guaranteed money for the org whose Challenger team wins. Challenger scene gets better support instead of these one-split teams disbanding.
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Ruran
Profile Joined January 2015
United States151 Posts
January 12 2015 03:05 GMT
#35
On January 11 2015 18:18 Chriis wrote:
It's nice to see Cloud9 being one of the first teams to develop a sister team, sad thing is that koreans did this already one year ago.


Curse has had sister challenger teams for a while, C9 had 2 challenger teams for a period, TSM had one as well IIRC. This isn't the first team to create a challenger team in NA.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
January 12 2015 04:10 GMT
#36
On January 11 2015 13:58 Baffels wrote:
Cloud9 seems to have a knack for finding and refining talent. Hoping to see LOD and Yusui succeed. Also never heard of Solo or Hard so that's always a treat after having followed the scene for awhile.


I felt so too but after C9T... going to wait for concrete results before getting hype
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fanaticus
Profile Joined January 2015
United States40 Posts
January 12 2015 04:22 GMT
#37
On January 12 2015 12:05 Ruran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 18:18 Chriis wrote:
It's nice to see Cloud9 being one of the first teams to develop a sister team, sad thing is that koreans did this already one year ago.


Curse has had sister challenger teams for a while, C9 had 2 challenger teams for a period, TSM had one as well IIRC. This isn't the first team to create a challenger team in NA.


The key word here is "develop." Cloud 9, TSM, and other organizations had Challenger teams, but they did not find and develop the talent themselves. Instead they approached an already successful challenger team and simply brought them in under their name.

What Curse and now Cloud 9 are doing is saying, "Okay, we're going to create an academy team. Who do we want on it?" instead of, "We want a challenger team, who do we buy?"

There is a difference there that is actually quite important.
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Ruran
Profile Joined January 2015
United States151 Posts
January 12 2015 04:25 GMT
#38
On January 12 2015 13:22 fanaticus wrote:


The key word here is "develop." Cloud 9, TSM, and other organizations had Challenger teams, but they did not find and develop the talent themselves. Instead they approached an already successful challenger team and simply brought them in under their name.

What Curse and now Cloud 9 are doing is saying, "Okay, we're going to create an academy team. Who do we want on it?" instead of, "We want a challenger team, who do we buy?"

There is a difference there that is actually quite important.


Huh interesting, I didn't think of it that way. I think Curse did develop CA, but you're quite right about the other teams. Thanks for correcting me!
keithasante
Profile Joined January 2012
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 05:27:57
January 12 2015 05:27 GMT
#39
On January 12 2015 13:22 fanaticus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 12:05 Ruran wrote:
On January 11 2015 18:18 Chriis wrote:
It's nice to see Cloud9 being one of the first teams to develop a sister team, sad thing is that koreans did this already one year ago.


Curse has had sister challenger teams for a while, C9 had 2 challenger teams for a period, TSM had one as well IIRC. This isn't the first team to create a challenger team in NA.


The key word here is "develop." Cloud 9, TSM, and other organizations had Challenger teams, but they did not find and develop the talent themselves. Instead they approached an already successful challenger team and simply brought them in under their name.

What Curse and now Cloud 9 are doing is saying, "Okay, we're going to create an academy team. Who do we want on it?" instead of, "We want a challenger team, who do we buy?"

There is a difference there that is actually quite important.

I don't think that's the only way to look at it though. Of course it's nice that C9 and Liquid are developing Challenger rosters from the ground up, but (and I'm not saying this is what you meant, just pointing it out) it's unfair to look down on organizations that put their support behind established teams. Teams that bring themselves together aren't undeserving of the resources a major organization can offer them just because they weren't put together by said organization.

Until more new owners/organizations/sponsors like Fusion and MSI step in and look at the Challenger scene seriously, we're still gonna have teams come together and disband after one split because potential owners are waiting for teams to qualify for the LCS first. Honestly, I don't think it should fall to LCS owners to put together new teams. For instance, if the OpTic rumors meant anything and they are actually interested in the LCS, why can't they use their resources to develop talent? Why wait until an LCS owner's Challenger team is developed, qualified for the LCS, and ready to be sold?
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