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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
December 21 2014 09:39 GMT
#701
My favorite part would be Liquid quality articles about OGN.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 21 2014 09:40 GMT
#702
On December 21 2014 18:33 Frudgey wrote:
I know I'm late to the Warmog's and Banshee's Veil discussion, but I just wanted to ask a question.

I know you guys have different opinions as to what you should buy, but I usually play tanky bruisers in the top lane (read: I play Darius) and I usually go Warmogs + Frozen Heart + Banshee's Veil/Spirit Visage on the big guy for defensive items.

Is this smart? I get that it really depends on the game you're in and the composition and how well you did in lane in stuff, but the combination of the three is usually my bread and butter for defensive items. If you guys had any input that'd be awesome.

that sounds about right tbh. BVeil is 95% of the time better than Spirit Visage. The ability to block a spell is so much more impactful than the increased regen/lifesteal increase from SV.

I will say, that pro toplane play we've been seeing a lot of Randuins+Thornmail combo due to double AD comps. So adjust accordingly. I think as long as you're building proper resists for the situation, any of the available choices are going to be effective. Whether you go sunfire, randuins, or frozen heart, or SV or Bveil, it's pretty hard to go wrong.
liftlift > tsm
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 09:56:24
December 21 2014 09:48 GMT
#703
Well, Spirit Visage also gives 10% CDR which Banshee's doesn't.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 21 2014 10:03 GMT
#704
On December 21 2014 11:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 11:43 Eiii wrote:
More exposure for these forums would almost definitely be a bad thing, especially if it's because TL becomes affiliated with an LCS team.

Yeah it would definitely require stricter moderation and quality control, which might be a pain in the ass for the TL moderation team


If LiquidDota is anything to go by, I would expect GD to get closed but OT will stay alive in some form. Moderation could be stricter but it's generally looser on LD/LH than TL from what I've seen.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 10:07:40
December 21 2014 10:05 GMT
#705
On December 21 2014 18:48 Scip wrote:
Well, Spirit Visage also gives 10% CDR which Banshee's doesn't.

That sort of falls into the fringe 5% where you benefit greatly from the cdr and/or increased healing that it's worth not having spellshield. I can't think of any champs on the top of my head where the 10% cdr on from choosing bveil over sv is game breaking.
liftlift > tsm
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
December 21 2014 10:12 GMT
#706
On December 21 2014 19:03 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 11:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
On December 21 2014 11:43 Eiii wrote:
More exposure for these forums would almost definitely be a bad thing, especially if it's because TL becomes affiliated with an LCS team.

Yeah it would definitely require stricter moderation and quality control, which might be a pain in the ass for the TL moderation team


If LiquidDota is anything to go by, I would expect GD to get closed but OT will stay alive in some form. Moderation could be stricter but it's generally looser on LD/LH than TL from what I've seen.


How is Liquid DotA activity wise? I know LiquidHearth is pretty quiet aside from articles, although with too many topics for a sub-forum.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 21 2014 10:12 GMT
#707
On December 21 2014 19:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 18:48 Scip wrote:
Well, Spirit Visage also gives 10% CDR which Banshee's doesn't.

That sort of falls into the fringe 5% where you benefit greatly from the cdr and/or increased healing that it's worth not having spellshield. I can't think of any champs on the top of my head where the 10% cdr on from choosing bveil over sv is game breaking.

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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
December 21 2014 10:36 GMT
#708
On December 21 2014 19:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 18:48 Scip wrote:
Well, Spirit Visage also gives 10% CDR which Banshee's doesn't.

That sort of falls into the fringe 5% where you benefit greatly from the cdr and/or increased healing that it's worth not having spellshield. I can't think of any champs on the top of my head where the 10% cdr on from choosing bveil over sv is game breaking.

In a feeble attempt to add to the conversation, Spirit Visage's passive increases all self healing done to you by 20%. So this includes Warmogs (which I buy frequently) and it makes me get more life steal from Ravenous Hydra, as well as increases the extra health regeneration that I would get from that as well.

Just food for thought.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 10:42:56
December 21 2014 10:42 GMT
#709
Well, the problem with Spirit Visage is that it needs to compete with Locket over which you'd buy it maybe 0% of the time or so, but I'd get it relatively often over Banshee's on my tanky junglers.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
December 21 2014 10:46 GMT
#710
On December 21 2014 19:36 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 19:05 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 21 2014 18:48 Scip wrote:
Well, Spirit Visage also gives 10% CDR which Banshee's doesn't.

That sort of falls into the fringe 5% where you benefit greatly from the cdr and/or increased healing that it's worth not having spellshield. I can't think of any champs on the top of my head where the 10% cdr on from choosing bveil over sv is game breaking.

In a feeble attempt to add to the conversation, Spirit Visage's passive increases all self healing done to you by 20%. So this includes Warmogs (which I buy frequently) and it makes me get more life steal from Ravenous Hydra, as well as increases the extra health regeneration that I would get from that as well.

Just food for thought.

Darius also has nearly the highest natural health regen in the game too (like 2nd or 3rd if I remember correctly, could be wrong though), so he gets a touch more out of that than others.

Really though, unless you benefit from the passive or are desperate for CDR, I would go Banshee's Veil. Champs that like SV reaaaaaaaaaaaally like it though. People like Vlad and Galio. Swain likes it too if extra MR is needed.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 11:13:21
December 21 2014 11:11 GMT
#711
On December 21 2014 18:39 MattBarry wrote:
My favorite part would be Liquid quality articles about OGN.


We had this. Liquid staff just didn't support it until everyone gave up on writing them anymore. If liquid wants to get a lol team then so be it but they must leave the forums alone after all the shit they have done. Don't want them ruining what works.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 21 2014 11:26 GMT
#712
The thing about SV is that if you're level 10, in order for the passive to be worth the same as locket shield, you need to heal for 750 health in a fight. And locket shields your allies and gives them the aegis aura.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 21 2014 12:12 GMT
#713
Until Riot changes vlads E to not have two weeks startup im done with him. Clunkiest spell in the whole damn game.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 21 2014 13:17 GMT
#714
It's 'k, the less people play Vlad, the better.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 21 2014 16:16 GMT
#715
On December 21 2014 21:12 Osmoses wrote:
Until Riot changes vlads E to not have two weeks startup im done with him. Clunkiest spell in the whole damn game.

Even if they sped up the animation on his E I don't think that fixes any of his problems.
liftlift > tsm
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 21 2014 17:10 GMT
#716
On December 21 2014 11:43 Eiii wrote:
More exposure for these forums would almost definitely be a bad thing, especially if it's because TL becomes affiliated with an LCS team.

Just realised something

I can't wait for nick allen to fine TL because of something posted in the OT thread

:D
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 21 2014 17:23 GMT
#717
On December 22 2014 02:10 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 11:43 Eiii wrote:
More exposure for these forums would almost definitely be a bad thing, especially if it's because TL becomes affiliated with an LCS team.

Just realised something

I can't wait for nick allen to fine TL because of something posted in the OT thread

:D

how many fines would Sponkz warrant I wonder
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 17:45:34
December 21 2014 17:42 GMT
#718
On December 22 2014 02:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 02:10 killerdog wrote:
On December 21 2014 11:43 Eiii wrote:
More exposure for these forums would almost definitely be a bad thing, especially if it's because TL becomes affiliated with an LCS team.

Just realised something

I can't wait for nick allen to fine TL because of something posted in the OT thread

:D

how many fines would Sponkz warrant I wonder



It's alright, i operate under the laws of Canadian Europe, flaming is considered being polite here!

edit: I'm also deeply offended by the TL-staff. My country is not on your list, so now I'm forced to be a Dane
hi
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 21 2014 18:12 GMT
#719
On December 21 2014 20:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 18:39 MattBarry wrote:
My favorite part would be Liquid quality articles about OGN.


We had this. Liquid staff just didn't support it until everyone gave up on writing them anymore. If liquid wants to get a lol team then so be it but they must leave the forums alone after all the shit they have done. Don't want them ruining what works.

yeah, great articles about ogn will ruin the sophisticated tl lol general discussion.
TL+ Member
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 18:24:26
December 21 2014 18:23 GMT
#720
On December 22 2014 03:12 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 20:11 Numy wrote:
On December 21 2014 18:39 MattBarry wrote:
My favorite part would be Liquid quality articles about OGN.


We had this. Liquid staff just didn't support it until everyone gave up on writing them anymore. If liquid wants to get a lol team then so be it but they must leave the forums alone after all the shit they have done. Don't want them ruining what works.

yeah, great articles about ogn will ruin the sophisticated tl lol general discussion.


Sigh. Getting a team(Which is 100% rumours atm) won't suddenly make coverage appeara. People, volunteers are the ones that produce the content and guess what, they USED to have fantastic OGN coverage and LCS coverage. TL admin just didn't support it at the time so most of the guys either lost passion or moved on to write at other places. Look at TL HS or Dota, both are primarily volunteer based even though TL has a team. Hell I think HS only really gets active content because Monk is a huge beast.

I think Fionn still does stuff every now and then but doubt guys will just come back because TL says "our bad guys we totally love you and respect your content now". Anyway again I don't really care about them picking up a team, just don't really want them to pull a TLDota where they forced the community to break up.
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