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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:03:36
May 07 2014 19:02 GMT
#2841
Hyper siege vs hyper all-in, at least this match will be interesting
On May 08 2014 04:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:59 Nos- wrote:
All ex pro players I rate higher than Monte

the hate runs deep.

To be fair this split since jatt and kobe grew a pair and called things out rather than try to sugar coat it I've started to prefer them over monte as well. I still prefer doacristo on the whole because they're awesome (Though phreak/kobe is getting close to them). Deficio is already starting to do the same as EU LCS has progressed.
Glorious SEA doto
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:03:51
May 07 2014 19:03 GMT
#2842
sorry double :\
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
May 07 2014 19:03 GMT
#2843
I'm wondering if Riot is planning on some small Jayce buffs. Damn I miss this guy. Nida can throw spears 24/7 and Jayce... Jayce can't :\
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 07 2014 19:04 GMT
#2844
Nidalee spears aren't aoe, and her items don't scale with auto attacks. Jayce is fine where he is now.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 07 2014 19:05 GMT
#2845
I fucking love how when Kobe casts with Freak he instantly shuts him down when he says something false lol
Carrilord has arrived.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:07:17
May 07 2014 19:05 GMT
#2846
On May 08 2014 03:59 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:57 Kyrie wrote:
it's a lot easier to rag on monte now when riot's inhouse casting crews have improved massively (although i'm still muting streams thanks to rivington and quickshot), but i don't think a reasonable observer can contest that ogn english casting has far and away had the most high level commentary for the longest time


the problem with Monte is that the inhouse crews aren't very good, I talked about this a couple days ago so I'll spare you the details but basically with Monte being the undisputed #1 analyst it leads to a lack of discussion on his opinions, which (imo) is becoming an issue.

On May 08 2014 03:59 nafta wrote:
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On May 08 2014 03:57 Kyrie wrote:
it's a lot easier to rag on monte now when riot's inhouse casting crews have improved massively (although i'm still muting streams thanks to rivington and quickshot), but i don't think a reasonable observer can contest that ogn english casting has far and away had the most high level commentary for the longest time

It depends on who is watching.Personally I enjoy doa's casting a lot more as someone who find analytical casting boring.If it was monte solo or he had someone else with a similar style to his I definitely would keep it muted as well.

all good points - league of legends casting quality in general leaves a lot to be desired, and it's perfectly okay to find color commentating itself uninteresting. i can also see how the unquestioning acceptance of monte's opinions is a problem, although many people will claim to have seen through his lies since forever

all that, however, still leaves room for the claim that monte was, for a long while, the best at what he did, and he set the standard that the rest of the industry worked to catch up to

On May 08 2014 04:05 Slusher wrote:
I fucking love how when Kobe casts with Freak he instantly shuts him down when he says something false lol

i like this as well - kobe/phreak casting the challenger series was some of the most fun i've had watching league
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:09:04
May 07 2014 19:07 GMT
#2847
In regards to Monte's whole coaching position. I find that this happens a lot in basketball, but a lot of times when teams do well, all the praise is given to the players, when the teams do poorly the blame is placed on coaches.

EU drafting is so fucking wonky.
RIP gets the yasuo pick vs nidalee, BETTER SEND LEBLANC IN MID INSTEAD.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 07 2014 19:08 GMT
#2848
Yeah phreak/kobe in challenger series was pretty beast.Honestly watching this solomid invitational makes me miss kobe/wombat more .
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 07 2014 19:09 GMT
#2849
The real mystery of the rito casters: Wtf happened to pastrytime, seriously did they just give up or something
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 07 2014 19:10 GMT
#2850
Wombat was such a beast lol
Carrilord has arrived.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:11:19
May 07 2014 19:10 GMT
#2851
I think Deficio understands the game better than Monte, but isn't as good at explaining it and Jatt is the other way around. I actually like Joe Miller more than Doa, but that's it for casters better tha OGN. BTW if you guys think Monte's analysis isn't as good as many think and someone should challenge him more, how about stepping up? Cause out of people who professionaly talk about league, I find his insight the most interesting to listen to :p
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:25:25
May 07 2014 19:15 GMT
#2852
I should be clear, I think Monte is the best analyst out there at the moment, my issue is the fact that it's so undisputed puts him in a spot where he could say something like Kha'Zix jungle hard counters Lee Sin jungle (he didn't say this) which sounds possible to someone who isn't sure, and nobody would be able to challenge this opinion because he'd just laugh at you with Thoorin on the next summoning insight.

Like I find their analysis of Bengi to be rather convenient , they constantly rip fans who said that Bengi was a big part of Faker's success, saying he just hard carried the team on his own, yet they both say Bengi had a terrible season in spring, while Faker is still on form. Isn't the premise that Faker would have carried reguardless of how Bengi played a contradiction of this?

and they literally make fun of people for giving Bengi any credit for their success
Carrilord has arrived.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 07 2014 19:15 GMT
#2853
omg Wombat is the only man with worse jokes than Phreak and DoA. Wat a god

I miss him so.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:17:58
May 07 2014 19:17 GMT
#2854
Jwaoww is a god. dat 1v2 defense.

seriously though, rip picked yasuo, and they don't fucking send it into lane against nidalee? i'm so confused.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 07 2014 19:18 GMT
#2855
Ocelote is winning 1v1 vs alex as nida vs lb.How times have changed.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 07 2014 19:32 GMT
#2856
Goddamn fucking EUW killing me over and over again. Ping is fine at 40ms, spells take half a goddamn second to cast. The hell.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 07 2014 19:33 GMT
#2857
nukeduck is purty damn good. dat flash Q into triple knockup ult.
liftlift > tsm
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
May 07 2014 19:33 GMT
#2858
On May 08 2014 04:15 Slusher wrote:
I should be clear, I think Monte is the best analyst out there at the moment, my issue is the fact that it's so undisputed puts him in a spot where he could say something like Kha'Zix jungle hard counters Lee Sin jungle (he didn't say this) which sounds possible to someone who isn't sure, and nobody would be able to challenge this opinion because he'd just laugh at you with Thoorin on the next summoning insight.

Like I find their analysis of Bengi to be rather convenient , they constantly rip fans who said that Bengi was a big part of Faker's success, saying he just hard carried the team on his own, yet they both say Bengi had a terrible season in spring, while Faker is still on form. Isn't the premise that Faker would have carried reguardless of how Bengi played a contradiction of this?

and they literally make fun of people for giving Bengi any credit for their success

Yeah that's just sad lol. Bengi is a great jungler he's just more of a supportive jungler like Cyanide. But surely if you asked them they'd tell you that Cyanide is terrible (he just won Worlds and 3 lcs seasons after all).
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 07 2014 19:35 GMT
#2859
On May 08 2014 04:33 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 04:15 Slusher wrote:
I should be clear, I think Monte is the best analyst out there at the moment, my issue is the fact that it's so undisputed puts him in a spot where he could say something like Kha'Zix jungle hard counters Lee Sin jungle (he didn't say this) which sounds possible to someone who isn't sure, and nobody would be able to challenge this opinion because he'd just laugh at you with Thoorin on the next summoning insight.

Like I find their analysis of Bengi to be rather convenient , they constantly rip fans who said that Bengi was a big part of Faker's success, saying he just hard carried the team on his own, yet they both say Bengi had a terrible season in spring, while Faker is still on form. Isn't the premise that Faker would have carried reguardless of how Bengi played a contradiction of this?

and they literally make fun of people for giving Bengi any credit for their success

Yeah that's just sad lol. Bengi is a great jungler he's just more of a supportive jungler like Cyanide. But surely if you asked them they'd tell you that Cyanide is terrible (he just won Worlds and 3 lcs seasons after all).

well if you asked monte right now, he'd also say bengi is slumping hard, your point?
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 07 2014 19:39 GMT
#2860
On May 08 2014 04:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 04:33 RouaF wrote:
On May 08 2014 04:15 Slusher wrote:
I should be clear, I think Monte is the best analyst out there at the moment, my issue is the fact that it's so undisputed puts him in a spot where he could say something like Kha'Zix jungle hard counters Lee Sin jungle (he didn't say this) which sounds possible to someone who isn't sure, and nobody would be able to challenge this opinion because he'd just laugh at you with Thoorin on the next summoning insight.

Like I find their analysis of Bengi to be rather convenient , they constantly rip fans who said that Bengi was a big part of Faker's success, saying he just hard carried the team on his own, yet they both say Bengi had a terrible season in spring, while Faker is still on form. Isn't the premise that Faker would have carried reguardless of how Bengi played a contradiction of this?

and they literally make fun of people for giving Bengi any credit for their success

Yeah that's just sad lol. Bengi is a great jungler he's just more of a supportive jungler like Cyanide. But surely if you asked them they'd tell you that Cyanide is terrible (he just won Worlds and 3 lcs seasons after all).

well if you asked monte right now, he'd also say bengi is slumping hard, your point?


the point is why aren't they still in the champions final?
Carrilord has arrived.
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