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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 07 2014 18:38 GMT
#2821
Just when I started thinking about why I think this lineup will never work, they start the comeback. I just... man. I think there's something in the team atmosphere between nuke, mithy and Freeze that prevents this lineup from being top3 EU. Maybe nuke's toxic, maybe Mithy's arrogant and telling them what to do even when he's only right only half the time, maybe Freeze is boosting Mithy's ego, but after watching them for a whole split and seeing how they do with k0u, I don't think playing more will make them fix all of these issues. It just really seems to me like all of them could use a change of environment. Still hoping they prove me wrong, but this lineup is just giving me headaches :p
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
May 07 2014 18:40 GMT
#2822
Nidalee should just be olafed
Yarr?
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
May 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#2823
In retrospect I think Dexter was just simply a god at getting teams to communicate. When he was on LD it somehow all worked out, and the same goes for CLG now. People say it´s Monte all the time but honestly I think that Dexter had a large influence too.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
May 07 2014 18:42 GMT
#2824
On May 08 2014 03:34 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:27 nafta wrote:
This rip team compositions is what cancer is made of.

remember the time when we called successful strategies "good"?

.. yeah, me neither, I guess

It's just that nobody wants to watch a poke comp with so much heals, shields and disengages, this meta created by the new summoner heal is a bit silly. But yeah we're aware the goal is to win, I don't think anyone blamed RiP, but as viewers doesn't it seem normal to express that it is just not very fun to watch ?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#2825
On May 08 2014 03:34 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:27 nafta wrote:
This rip team compositions is what cancer is made of.

remember the time when we called successful strategies "good"?

.. yeah, me neither, I guess

Back when this kind of comp first debuted, we were used to farmfests and slow grinding oppressive games. S3 gave us a taste of what assassin comps and roaming hecarim gangbang comps looked like, and now this kind of suffocating play is kind of dull for spectators and also as players we feel the vicarious frustration. It would be like seeing a successful Teemo comp.

Zed, Fizz, Lee Sin all have flashy skills and plays. Soraka presses one button.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
May 07 2014 18:45 GMT
#2826
On May 08 2014 03:41 Fildun wrote:
In retrospect I think Dexter was just simply a god at getting teams to communicate. When he was on LD it somehow all worked out, and the same goes for CLG now. People say it´s Monte all the time but honestly I think that Dexter had a large influence too.

I gotta agree, Monte started coaching CLG way before they started playing well. Dexter is obviously the major key to their success. As to if he carried LD I have no idea but it could very well be considering how the LD line-up is doing now.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
May 07 2014 18:47 GMT
#2827
I'm with you RouaF but these things are very hard to judge because we hardly have any insight into how the respective teams work. It's easy to see when a player has great mechanics or good timing but much much harder to evaluate his influence on a team as a whole.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
May 07 2014 18:50 GMT
#2828
On May 08 2014 03:41 Fildun wrote:
In retrospect I think Dexter was just simply a god at getting teams to communicate. When he was on LD it somehow all worked out, and the same goes for CLG now. People say it´s Monte all the time but honestly I think that Dexter had a large influence too.


I think Monte was always and is still very overrated. Both as a coach and a caster.

Dexter on the other hand is really impressive.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:52:13
May 07 2014 18:51 GMT
#2829
What caster would you rate higher than Monte?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 07 2014 18:53 GMT
#2830
I actually genuinely like cancer comps idk how to explain it.
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 07 2014 18:55 GMT
#2831
On May 08 2014 03:34 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:27 nafta wrote:
This rip team compositions is what cancer is made of.

remember the time when we called successful strategies "good"?

.. yeah, me neither, I guess

Doesnt make it fun to watch :D.It is a competition so they will use it obviously.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 07 2014 18:56 GMT
#2832
On May 08 2014 03:53 Slusher wrote:
I actually genuinely like cancer comps idk how to explain it.

You're a sadist?
Glorious SEA doto
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
May 07 2014 18:57 GMT
#2833
it's a lot easier to rag on monte now when riot's inhouse casting crews have improved massively (although i'm still muting streams thanks to rivington and quickshot), but i don't think a reasonable observer can contest that ogn english casting has far and away had the most high level commentary for the longest time
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:02:07
May 07 2014 18:57 GMT
#2834
On May 08 2014 03:45 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:41 Fildun wrote:
In retrospect I think Dexter was just simply a god at getting teams to communicate. When he was on LD it somehow all worked out, and the same goes for CLG now. People say it´s Monte all the time but honestly I think that Dexter had a large influence too.

I gotta agree, Monte started coaching CLG way before they started playing well. Dexter is obviously the major key to their success. As to if he carried LD I have no idea but it could very well be considering how the LD line-up is doing now.

you can't seriously expect to get a coach, and then instantly BLAMO, expect egos on the team to change overnight. The timing of dexter + boot camping during off season allowed CLG to evolve. To say Monte didn't play a role in that is a bit silly. Not to mention CLG played pretty good, even with having Link in Jungle and retiree's playing in mid. They still would have been #3 team in LCS (not nearly as dominating score obviously).
On May 08 2014 03:51 AlterKot wrote:
What caster would you rate higher than Monte?

DoA. Cuz jokes.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:59:48
May 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#2835
On May 08 2014 03:57 Kyrie wrote:
it's a lot easier to rag on monte now when riot's inhouse casting crews have improved massively (although i'm still muting streams thanks to rivington and quickshot), but i don't think a reasonable observer can contest that ogn english casting has far and away had the most high level commentary for the longest time

It depends on who is watching.Personally I enjoy doa's casting a lot more as someone who find analytical casting boring.If it was monte solo or he had someone else with a similar style to his I definitely would keep it muted as well.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:00:24
May 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#2836
On May 08 2014 03:57 Kyrie wrote:
it's a lot easier to rag on monte now when riot's inhouse casting crews have improved massively (although i'm still muting streams thanks to rivington and quickshot), but i don't think a reasonable observer can contest that ogn english casting has far and away had the most high level commentary for the longest time


the problem with Monte is that the inhouse crews aren't very good, I talked about this a couple days ago so I'll spare you the details but basically with Monte being the undisputed #1 analyst it leads to a lack of discussion on his opinions, which (imo) is becoming an issue.
Carrilord has arrived.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:59:41
May 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#2837
All ex pro players I rate higher than Monte
Bronze player stuck in platinum
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#2838
OH MY. G2 picked Jayce <3
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 07 2014 19:00 GMT
#2839
I don't know about Jayce, even with the tear buffs gate is still 15 sec...
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 07 2014 19:01 GMT
#2840
On May 08 2014 03:59 Nos- wrote:
All ex pro players I rate higher than Monte

the hate runs deep.
liftlift > tsm
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