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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:28:15
September 20 2013 21:27 GMT
#4281
yo guys, I was just wondering, does anyone know if req is still silver? I'm just asking because I haven't seen the topic brought up lately and I'd like to know if he's gold.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 20 2013 21:28 GMT
#4282
On September 21 2013 06:03 Cloud9157 wrote:
Maybe I don't know junglers that well, but to me, those three are in a class of their own really. Not trying to say you can only jungle one of them and nothing else, but they are exactly what you want in a jungler right now, and they fit the way the jungle works right now. They clear at least decently if not pretty well, and their ganks are terror.

I just look at the simplistic scenario of "what would be different if I had alistar over j4?" Sure, Alistar ganks are about on par with his ganks, maybe a bit better if you blow everything to try and get the kill. Plus if you can somehow get a flash>pulverize>headbutt on a carry or a high valued target, then Alistar is amazing, but I'm simply more afraid of a j4 engaging on me, because he can kill me almost by himself while building full tank, something cow really cannot do.

Same goes for Vi really, somewhat for Zac too.


I don't think it's clear they're a cut above. They're definitely top tier, but right now they're actually the 4th, 5th, and 6th most picked/banned junglers at Worlds. Teams are consistently picking Elise, Lee Sin, and Aatrox over them. If they were really that much better than everyone else there wouldn't be other contenders beating them out.

Don't get me wrong, I jungle Zac and J4 all the time. They're awesome junglers, but jungle is a big place and defining what's "best" is difficult
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:28:21
September 20 2013 21:28 GMT
#4283
On September 21 2013 06:13 AsmodeusXI wrote:
That Vi page. Riot hype = best hype.

Riot shouldn't hype new champs, ruins the hype.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 20 2013 21:29 GMT
#4284
On September 21 2013 06:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
yo guys, I was just wondering, does anyone know if req is still silver? I'm just asking because I haven't seen the topic brought up lately and I'd like to know if he's gold.

I don't even bring it up I think people are just incredulous that I got so lucky
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2013 21:29 GMT
#4285
I find it surprising trist in ads good vs corki wasn't mentioned.It is one of the easiest lanes I've played as a trist.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 20 2013 21:30 GMT
#4286
If I could bring in outside characters, I'd say it was
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ANARCHY FOREVER
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:31:41
September 20 2013 21:31 GMT
#4287
On September 21 2013 06:29 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
yo guys, I was just wondering, does anyone know if req is still silver? I'm just asking because I haven't seen the topic brought up lately and I'd like to know if he's gold.

I don't even bring it up I think people are just incredulous that I got so lucky


I carried you* in your first placement game and then I didn't want to be relied on so I ran away and hoped that you wouldn't invite me again**


*you carried me
**I think I ate a whole pizza by myself and then hung out with friends later that night. I am the best.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:32:54
September 20 2013 21:31 GMT
#4288
On September 21 2013 06:29 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
yo guys, I was just wondering, does anyone know if req is still silver? I'm just asking because I haven't seen the topic brought up lately and I'd like to know if he's gold.

I don't even bring it up I think people are just incredulous that I got so lucky

I'm just jelly. I wouldn't care if Zeronis didn't have to go and draw the S3 gold+ Elise.

Stupid Zeronis, it's not like I didn't follow you on DA before you joined Riot. Baka.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 20 2013 21:37 GMT
#4289
On September 21 2013 06:31 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:29 Requizen wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
yo guys, I was just wondering, does anyone know if req is still silver? I'm just asking because I haven't seen the topic brought up lately and I'd like to know if he's gold.

I don't even bring it up I think people are just incredulous that I got so lucky


I carried you* in your first placement game and then I didn't want to be relied on so I ran away and hoped that you wouldn't invite me again**


*you carried me
**I think I ate a whole pizza by myself and then hung out with friends later that night. I am the best.

You da best.

I don't remember that game actually. Weren't you Cait or something?
It's your boy Guzma!
benefluence
Profile Joined January 2010
United States158 Posts
September 20 2013 21:40 GMT
#4290
On September 21 2013 03:26 thenexusp wrote:
Hey guys,

In my spare time I wrote up a little script to count picks and bans. I made a little file containing all the data (more than I need) so I could do some extra analysis later if I wanted, but I'd like to share it in case anyone else wants to do their own analysis on it.

I made the file to be a nice, easily-parsed format. Each line has 10 tokens, separated by spaces. (spaces were stripped out of champion names that had spaces). First token is team, second token is result, next three are their bans, next five are their picks (in that order). Source is leaguepedia.

+ Show Spoiler [warning, contains worlds spoilers] +
GGEU L karthus elise twistedfate jarvaniv thresh gragas ezreal renekton
TSM W orianna sona evelynn zed corki vi fiddlesticks shen
SKTT1 W fizz kennen shen ahri leesin elise vayne zyra
LD L orianna caitlyn zed thresh corki swain vi malphite
TSM L yorick orianna renekton sona elise corki rumble fizz
OMG W zed shen thresh caitlyn ahri aatrox zyra kennen
LD W sona orianna shen elise vayne zyra ahri zac
GGEU L kennen twistedfate zed corki thresh renekton jarvaniv fizz
OMG W vi thresh shen zyra renekton orianna corki leesin
SKTT1 L zed ahri fizz caitlyn jarvaniv nami kennen gragas
V W kassadin ashe ahri orianna vi corki nasus zyra
Fnatic L shen zed twistedfate sona elise lissandra caitlyn yorick
Gambit W jarvaniv leesin thresh sona corki ahri renekton aatrox
Mineski L shen zed orianna fiddlesticks nocturne diana ezreal zac
SGOzone W kennen corki zyra thresh jarvaniv caitlyn ryze singed
V L zed leesin vayne ahri shen vi ezreal sona
Mineski L kassadin ahri fizz orianna zyra corki jarvaniv leesin
Fnatic W thresh sona zed shen aatrox diana caitlyn leona
Gambit W caitlyn leesin thresh shen sona ahri kogmaw evelynn
SGOzone L aatrox zed corki zyra vayne jarvaniv singed ryze
Mineski L singed leesin zed thresh vayne nasus ryze renekton
SGOzone W sona zyra ahri shen elise ezreal fiddlesticks jayce
V L kassadin evelynn corki elise vi zyra caitlyn orianna
Gambit W zed ahri shen twistedfate sona aatrox kogmaw leesin
SGOzone L kassadin ahri fizz shen elise sona kogmaw gragas
Fnatic W zed thresh leesin orianna aatrox lissandra corki leona
Mineksi L ahri orianna corki shen nocturne thresh varus ryze
V W sona zed leesin zyra elise karthus caitlyn nasus
Fnatic W zed evelynn corki aatrox varus orianna zac leona
Gambit L ahri shen elise twistedfate sona xinzhao missfortune shyvana
LD L aatrox caitlyn orianna elise corki sona fizz zac
OMG W zed shen thresh kennen ahri zyra leesin tristana
SKTT1 W orianna thresh renekton zyra shen ezreal fizz leesin
GGEU L zed ahri caitlyn aatrox corki gragas sona jarvaniv
TSM W kennen zyra fizz zed thresh caitlyn vi vladimir
LD L sona rumble corki shen elise ahri lulu vayne
GGEU L zed leesin elise orianna aatrox zyra vayne zac
OMG W shen thresh corki renekton jarvaniv fiddlesticks gragas kogmaw
SKTT1 W fiddlesticks vi fizz ahri zyra renekton caitlyn leesin
TSM L shen thresh zed corki elise gragas sona rumble
SGOzone W evelynn ahri shen sona jarvaniv ezreal caitlyn zac
Gambit L thresh leesin zed corki elise zyra aatrox karthus
Fnatic W vi zed corki ahri ashe zyra leesin zac
V L aatrox shen orianna caitlyn elise lissandra sona vladimir
Mineski L renekton corki ahri zed zyra leesin ezreal nidalee
Gambit W thresh shen nocturne elise sona orianna kogmaw aatrox
Fnatic W leesin thresh *noban* zed corki zyra aatrox kassadin
SGOzone L ahri shen leona lissandra elise ezreal fiddlesticks zac
V W nocturne thresh zed shen vi zyra ashe twistedfate
Mineski L ahri orianna karthus corki elise sona leesin ryze


+ Show Spoiler [pretty picks and bans output] +

         zed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx||||
shen xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx||||||||||
corki xxxxxxxxx|||||||||||||||
ahri xxxxxxxxxxxxx||||||||||
zyra xxx||||||||||||||||||
sona xxxxxx|||||||||||||||
thresh xxxxxxxxxxxxxx|||||||
elise xxx||||||||||||||||
leesin xxxxxxxxx||||||||||
orianna xxxxxxxxxx||||||||
caitlyn xxxx|||||||||||
aatrox xxx|||||||||||
vi xxx|||||||
fizz xxxxxx||||
renekton xxx|||||||
jarvaniv x|||||||||
zac ||||||||
ezreal ||||||||
vayne x||||||
kennen xxxx|||
gragas ||||||
fiddlesticks x|||||
twistedfate xxx|||
kassadin xxxx|
ryze |||||
evelynn xxxx|
kogmaw |||||
nocturne xx||
karthus xx||
lissandra ||||
leona x|||
ashe x||
nasus |||
rumble x||
singed x||
diana ||
varus ||
yorick x|
vladimir ||
lulu |
swain |
xinzhao |
nidalee |
shyvana |
missfortune |
jayce |
tristana |
malphite |
nami |

KEY: x = ban, | = pick


I'll be posting updates later, hopefully.


For those interested: same data, slightly prettier picture
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
September 20 2013 21:42 GMT
#4291
Buff Lulu!
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:43:51
September 20 2013 21:43 GMT
#4292
Wow, buff Elise. Riot pls.

Need to nerf Ryze some more, he won a game
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 20 2013 21:46 GMT
#4293
I do hope she's a Mid laner or AP but there's also that dragon thing coming later. Dam too much IP needs farming.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 20 2013 21:54 GMT
#4294
I want to point out wins/losses for champs don't necessarily mean all that much. Any champ that GG.EU or mineski chooses is probably going to lose regardless of whether they are OP or not, and vice-versa for the best teams at worlds (although the "best" is not as clear-cut).

Also keep in mind that regardless of what are the current OPs, there are also champs that are comfort picks for certain teams that they may pick frequently during worlds. Teams that have to fight through group stages will play many more games than teams that got seeded into the bracket stage, so group-stage teams that make it out of their group may have their comfort picks overrepresented compared to a seeded team's comfort picks.

Also, once it's clear that mineski/ggeu have no chance of making it out of their groups, they may try some unorthodox strategies...
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 20 2013 21:55 GMT
#4295
On September 21 2013 06:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:31 kainzero wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:29 Requizen wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
yo guys, I was just wondering, does anyone know if req is still silver? I'm just asking because I haven't seen the topic brought up lately and I'd like to know if he's gold.

I don't even bring it up I think people are just incredulous that I got so lucky


I carried you* in your first placement game and then I didn't want to be relied on so I ran away and hoped that you wouldn't invite me again**


*you carried me
**I think I ate a whole pizza by myself and then hung out with friends later that night. I am the best.

You da best.

I don't remember that game actually. Weren't you Cait or something?

Maybe. 99% chance I fed first blood. 1% chance it was my support and then I died shortly thereafter.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#4296
Also you have to remember a team might pick a champ just to deny it from the enemy. So if that team loses that doesn't mean that champ was weak since it was strong enough for them to have to deny it after the ban phase.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#4297
Yeah wtf req how did you get gold? lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
September 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#4298
On September 21 2013 06:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
Yeah wtf req how did you get gold? lol

He sacked up.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 20 2013 22:11 GMT
#4299
He prob got lucky in his promos and ended up getting carried. Worked for me.

So Vi is VI because there is a X, uh? Yeah that was hinted at as soon as she was released anyway. It's full of pink! Which is different from punk.

Also don't get too eager to see the Chinese dragon. Remember when they announced they'd work on a Kumiho-based champ? That was a good 6 months before Ahri came out, at least. And they aren't even that deep in Ao Shin's design process.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 20 2013 22:13 GMT
#4300
i cant wait for more resourceless built in ga champs that outclass existing ones so people will use their money for the skin
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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