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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 01 2014 23:16 GMT
#46781
On July 02 2014 07:42 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 07:39 xes wrote:
On July 02 2014 07:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
as sad as it is, I think this World Cup will make soccer somewhat more relevant in the US

I heard from Ann Coulter that this makes you an anti-American

Immigrant

Socialism and satan also start with s like soccer. Just saying

So does "states rights."

On July 02 2014 07:51 thearmfar wrote:
For those who like Legend of Zelda....

It's funny. Everything he loves about the original Zelda and bases his dislike to OOT on, I dislike.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 01 2014 23:17 GMT
#46782
On July 02 2014 07:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
as sad as it is, I think this World Cup will make soccer somewhat more relevant in the US

i think it's the opposite, soccer is more relevant in the US already so that's why we had a good turnout
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 01 2014 23:19 GMT
#46783
On July 02 2014 08:17 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 07:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
as sad as it is, I think this World Cup will make soccer somewhat more relevant in the US

i think it's the opposite, soccer is more relevant in the US already so that's why we had a good turnout


well, sure, but it sparks greater growth in the future as well
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2014 23:22 GMT
#46784
On July 02 2014 08:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 07:42 Fusilero wrote:
On July 02 2014 07:39 xes wrote:
On July 02 2014 07:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
as sad as it is, I think this World Cup will make soccer somewhat more relevant in the US

I heard from Ann Coulter that this makes you an anti-American

Immigrant

Socialism and satan also start with s like soccer. Just saying

So does "states rights."

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 07:51 thearmfar wrote:
For those who like Legend of Zelda.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0

It's funny. Everything he loves about the original Zelda and bases his dislike to OOT on, I dislike.

I like Egoraptor but I disagree with a lot of his views on game mechanics and storytelling in games. He has a huge boner for older games and mechanics and hates shooters basically on principle. Listening to him shit on Bioshock Infinite during one of their Game Grump episodes really rubbed me the wrong way.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 01 2014 23:23 GMT
#46785
Zelda?

Zelda.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 01 2014 23:24 GMT
#46786
On July 02 2014 08:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 08:16 Gahlo wrote:
On July 02 2014 07:42 Fusilero wrote:
On July 02 2014 07:39 xes wrote:
On July 02 2014 07:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
as sad as it is, I think this World Cup will make soccer somewhat more relevant in the US

I heard from Ann Coulter that this makes you an anti-American

Immigrant

Socialism and satan also start with s like soccer. Just saying

So does "states rights."

On July 02 2014 07:51 thearmfar wrote:
For those who like Legend of Zelda.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0

It's funny. Everything he loves about the original Zelda and bases his dislike to OOT on, I dislike.

I like Egoraptor but I disagree with a lot of his views on game mechanics and storytelling in games. He has a huge boner for older games and mechanics and hates shooters basically on principle. Listening to him shit on Bioshock Infinite during one of their Game Grump episodes really rubbed me the wrong way.

I liked Infinite, but I thought the combat was very boring and ended up being the worst part of the game.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 23:29:15
July 01 2014 23:27 GMT
#46787
I thought the combat was fun + Show Spoiler +
well aside from the fight with Elizabeth's mom
. The sky hook stuff was real fun imo.

Edit: Also he complained more about the state of video games in general rather than just Bioshock. Basically he values mechanics WAY MORE than storytelling and for me it's a lot more equal.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 01 2014 23:28 GMT
#46788
i don't agree with that much
sure he can criticize how much you wait in OoT, but he doesn't mention windwaker at all.
i actually enjoyed the OoT storyline and felt that it was most immersive game until twilight princess. LttP is great, probably my second most favorite but i hate replaying it cause it isn't immersive
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2014 23:35 GMT
#46789
I don't even love OoT as much as a lot of people (first time I played it was on the 3DS), but man, some of his complaints are so shallow (like the animation for opening treasure chests, real?)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 23:47:07
July 01 2014 23:45 GMT
#46790
On July 02 2014 08:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
I don't even love OoT as much as a lot of people (first time I played it was on the 3DS), but man, some of his complaints are so shallow (like the animation for opening treasure chests, real?)


That complaint isn't shallow at all. It's a legit complaint. It wastes the player's time for no reason. He probably spent more time on it than he had to, but the whole idea of that part of the segment was exactly that there was a lot of wasted time in the game. You can never skip those animation in the game, and those repeated animation/waiting time add nothing to enrich your experience of the game.

I do enjoy a Link to the Past a lot more than the recent games, but it's mostly just preference.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 01 2014 23:50 GMT
#46791
Matter of opinion I guess, never once bothered me *shrug*
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 01 2014 23:52 GMT
#46792
On July 02 2014 08:45 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 08:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
I don't even love OoT as much as a lot of people (first time I played it was on the 3DS), but man, some of his complaints are so shallow (like the animation for opening treasure chests, real?)


That complaint isn't shallow at all. It's a legit complaint. It wastes the player's time for no reason. He probably spent more time on it than he had to, but the whole idea of that part of the segment was exactly that there was a lot of wasted time in the game. You can never skip those animation in the game, and those repeated animation/waiting time add nothing to enrich your experience of the game.

I do enjoy a Link to the Past a lot more than the recent games, but it's mostly just preference.

the point is to build suspense
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 01 2014 23:52 GMT
#46793
I didn't agree with most of what he had to say.

"I don't like that there's story to engage us in our quest because the draw of exploration should be enough"

Really? That's fucking dumb. Sure, OoT had a lot of running back and forth (one of the things that annoyed me about it), but that's a horrible complaint. He's trying to make it sound like every game should be completely driven by "go do the thing because it's fun".

Hey, don't get me wrong, exploration is fun, sure! But the game is trying to give an explanation for why your character should care about these things, and that's good. Is there a large disconnect between the story and the game? Yes, you basically could have replaced any fetch quest in OoT with any other one and had the same game, but fuck don't knock it for trying.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 02 2014 00:01 GMT
#46794
On July 02 2014 08:52 Requizen wrote:
I didn't agree with most of what he had to say.

"I don't like that there's story to engage us in our quest because the draw of exploration should be enough"

Really? That's fucking dumb. Sure, OoT had a lot of running back and forth (one of the things that annoyed me about it), but that's a horrible complaint. He's trying to make it sound like every game should be completely driven by "go do the thing because it's fun".

Hey, don't get me wrong, exploration is fun, sure! But the game is trying to give an explanation for why your character should care about these things, and that's good. Is there a large disconnect between the story and the game? Yes, you basically could have replaced any fetch quest in OoT with any other one and had the same game, but fuck don't knock it for trying.

That was probably the part I took issue with the most. It goes back to him valuing mechanics over storytelling. Pretty sure if it was up to him games as a story telling medium would have never evolved passed the NES era.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 02 2014 00:05 GMT
#46795
I'm a huge fan of exploration for the sake of exploration, which is why I like games like Metroid and Knytt. But I'm still okay with having a reason to go in a direction, as long as that doesn't arbitrarily shut me off from going in other directions.

What I didn't like about OoT was I played Majora's Mask first and it felt like a significantly better game. I really liked the time looping and the surreal atmosphere, and the dungeons were much more memorable to me.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
July 02 2014 00:49 GMT
#46796
alright whos streaming
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 02 2014 00:55 GMT
#46797
On July 02 2014 09:49 Shelke14 wrote:
alright whos streaming

"Be the change you wish to see in the world."

-Me
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 01:04:30
July 02 2014 01:01 GMT
#46798
I'm on a shitty laptop, in a hotel room. just stream already ghandi

Please, save me from this dull world
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 02 2014 01:05 GMT
#46799
Damnit, you ruin everything Romo!
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 02 2014 01:06 GMT
#46800
I'll stream a hard mode Guacamelee speedrun soon. There will be a lot of failing in embarrassing ways.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
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