On June 17 2013 19:42 Chexx wrote:
Just watched the video where saints argues against their analyst. If saint would play as good as he screams he would top class

Who is their analyst? How long ago did this happen? What were they arguing about?

I can't watch videos, this is why I ask all this.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

June 17 2013 11:04 GMT

#1782

I think hes just arguing with liquid

Chexx

Korea (South)11232 Posts

June 17 2013 11:05 GMT

#1783

On June 17 2013 19:53 JonGalt wrote:

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Who is their analyst? How long ago did this happen? What were they arguing about?

I can't watch videos, this is why I ask all this.

They lost a scrim it and after the scrim they went over the game with their analyst and Saint started arguing. Dont know how long it lasted because Voyboy switched the ts channel.

Not sure if it is still caelym or somebody else

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

June 17 2013 11:06 GMT

#1784

Yeah, he's just talking back to Liquid. They got crushed today by FXO in a number of scrims. Wasn't even like they were ahead at any point but Saint would like to think they were.

JonGalt

Pootie too good!4331 Posts

June 17 2013 11:15 GMT

#1785

Thanks!

That 1-4 start for Curse probably killing their morale. Speaking of FXO, I don't remember seeing them in the summer qualifiers. Did they get knocked out early or just didn't compete? Anyone know if they plan on competing in S4?

mr_tolkien

France8631 Posts

June 17 2013 11:30 GMT

#1786

Nunu is silly. Counter-jungle yourself (eat your big monsters), buy wards, destroy their jungle, PROFIT.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

June 17 2013 11:32 GMT

#1787

On June 17 2013 19:17 Shikyo wrote:
By the way, you don't melee with Pantheon, his skills have 600 range. People who say his late game sucks melee with him. As an example HSS deals over 3 times as much damage as the notoriously "op" khazix E reset and it doesn't leave you vulnerable in melee range. Oh and it has 3.6s cd.

this was supposed to be an edit

then again it's me posting so you shouldn't probably take it seriously ^-^

Ya his E is pretty retarded 320 + 360% bonus ad, on a low ass cd
lol not bad.

If you leave lane with any sort of big advantage i dont think he's bad late game at all.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

June 17 2013 11:33 GMT

#1788

Panth's got a way to get to the backline as long as you get the animation-cancelling on his ult right, but blows up fast. He's a nice back-up for ganging up on a fed opponent, but won't have the damage to 100-0 people past midgame, nor the range to poke them beforehand the way Zed/Kha do.
He has, however, pretty high base damage and especially scaling on E, so get it that LW+BC, stun the smart ass that tries to dive your backline, E him to apply those BC stacks, and help your AD melt him. He's not a bad bodyguard and if people run straight into you team you can stand in the backline/on the side to get those money Es. You'll just get peeled and killed if you try to kill the backline by yourself, because "weak" burst, below-average dps, no in-fight moblity nor sticking power (his gapcloser is his cc and vice-versa).

bmn

886 Posts

June 17 2013 11:45 GMT

#1789

Out of pure curiosity, do people at higher levels (I'm still Silver) play Nidalee top or is it more of an obscure/niche pick?

I've carried myself 2+ divisions with just that pick, and it's one of the few champs I've enjoyed playing 20+ times in a row (whenever I get top). I go IBG into pure tank items (40% CDR + resists/hp) and push my lane hard to force the enemy to react. In late-game team fights it's mostly about trying to split the enemy and diving their carries.

Is this just me abusing an easy laner against Silver opponents or is that a viable pick/strategy at higher levels?

I tried it after seeing RF Legendary's guide, but given how strong (and easy) it seems I'm surprised it hasn't caught on at all at my level.

Deleted User 45971

533 Posts

June 17 2013 11:50 GMT

#1790

Do people at high Elo play Pantheon top? When I do it I just get camped by jungler due to having no escape leading to boring games. When I'm mid though I get to gank bot on 6, mid definitely feels like the lane where I get to use his strengths but I'm just a gold scrub.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

June 17 2013 11:56 GMT

#1791

Smash used to do it a lot in s2 (along with Xin). He got camped, too. Then he and Neo "discovered" Nunu.

nyxnyxnyx

Indonesia2978 Posts

June 17 2013 11:56 GMT

#1792

You can play anything to win at Silver. Split push is good all the way from Bronze to pro games.

bmn

886 Posts

June 17 2013 12:05 GMT

#1793

I know that winning in Silver means nothing about your pick -- that's why I'm asking whether it's still seen at higher levels. :-)

The sustained harass, short trades, and kiting (with IBG) fits my play style better than hard engage champs (Akali), and I enjoy abusing her mobility to bait people, but I'm curious about whether I'm just exploiting particular weaknesses of low-level players or whether I've learned my champ's limits and actually play her better -- I'd like to think it's the latter, but there's no real way of telling.

WhiteDog

France8650 Posts

June 17 2013 12:08 GMT

#1794

Jiji cracks me up. He is one of the nicest player I've seen. Do a vlog, don't say a word about the fact that he just started to play jungle and randomly summerize everything he just bought before entering CLG's gaming house - a pillow, some fournitures... Then go on and talk about future LCS and talk more about other teams than CLG.

mr_tolkien

France8631 Posts

June 17 2013 12:17 GMT

#1795

On June 17 2013 20:50 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Do people at high Elo play Pantheon top? When I do it I just get camped by jungler due to having no escape leading to boring games. When I'm mid though I get to gank bot on 6, mid definitely feels like the lane where I get to use his strengths but I'm just a gold scrub.

Dunno if you consider this «high elo» but here's my account : http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/24404996

He's perfectly fine but yeah you'll GET camped and you just got to learn to score double kills 1v3 :D

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

June 17 2013 12:39 GMT

#1796

buy wards

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

June 17 2013 13:14 GMT

#1797

Not a fan of Aatrox at all. I really, really hate champs that can tower dive like him.

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

June 17 2013 13:15 GMT

#1798

On June 17 2013 21:05 bmn wrote:
I know that winning in Silver means nothing about your pick -- that's why I'm asking whether it's still seen at higher levels. :-)

The sustained harass, short trades, and kiting (with IBG) fits my play style better than hard engage champs (Akali), and I enjoy abusing her mobility to bait people, but I'm curious about whether I'm just exploiting particular weaknesses of low-level players or whether I've learned my champ's limits and actually play her better -- I'd like to think it's the latter, but there's no real way of telling.

Yes, nidalee top lane is an extremely rare and also a niche pick. I haven't seen her for more than a hundred games I think. She isn't as unbeatable 1v1 as she used to be and as such has become somewhat of a mediocre splitpusher.

Vanka

China1336 Posts

June 17 2013 13:20 GMT

#1799

I see panth jungle a lot in diamond on the chinese server actually. semi-global ganks are pretty damn effective considering how brawl-y chinese bot lanes tend to be

Dgiese

United States2687 Posts

June 17 2013 13:47 GMT

#1800

Man, like the last 5 shikyo posts leading up to this had been pantheon posts, we should have made a betting pool on when he'd drop knowledge bombs and be heralded as the pantheon messiah. I have seen the light, pantheon > kha'zix lategame. great refreshable mobility pales in comparison to a fully channeled HSS that does mroe damage but leaves you incredibly exposed without an escape tool.