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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
June 13 2013 17:50 GMT
#801
On June 13 2013 14:32 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 13:10 Eppa! wrote:
But then your stuck with a rengar on your team...

I know a guy who has got over 10 accounts to diamond playing only rengar top

What's the issue?

I am not saying Rengar is bad but he is bad in an actual team fight.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 13 2013 17:54 GMT
#802
On June 14 2013 02:28 koreasilver wrote:
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On June 13 2013 21:56 justiceknight wrote:
with the recent change to Consume on nunu ,i cannot solo baron anymore?

I do it very often at lvl 7 with little more than spirit stone + kindlegem + 2 healthpots + pink ward. lvl 4 consume.

He asked for baron, not dragon.

And just as I thought, Nautilus' damage has been raped pretty hard (and yes this is intentionally using "raped"). Turns out, very surprisingly, that -24% damage at level 9+ (and around -20% at level 7) of the main (and later almost only) source of dps on your champ tends to reduce your damage output.
Obviously nerfing Nautilus' "snowball" (pretty hilarious in itself) doesn't hold any relevance to his actual "standard" (also relevant for most of the game unless huge stomp in one direction or another) damage output. Won't affect his non-snowbally games at all. Wut.

(But hey, let's not touch Zac at all.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 13 2013 18:03 GMT
#803
On June 14 2013 02:50 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 14:32 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On June 13 2013 13:10 Eppa! wrote:
But then your stuck with a rengar on your team...

I know a guy who has got over 10 accounts to diamond playing only rengar top

What's the issue?

I am not saying Rengar is bad but he is bad in an actual team fight.

Iunno about that. In teamfights, Rengar's really darn good at insta-killing a specific target. His ult makes it extremely easy to get to the enemy backline and his empowered E+Q make it really damn easy to just destroy a squishy in seconds.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 13 2013 18:11 GMT
#804
Say they implement a new Summoner Spell called Tiptoe, where your champion turns invisible for 10 seconds but moves at a slower MS. Say 50-75% MS, whatever you think is fair.

Who do you take it on and what do you take it with?
It's your boy Guzma!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#805
Take it on every champion and go gank all the lanes.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
June 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#806
On June 14 2013 03:11 Requizen wrote:
Say they implement a new Summoner Spell called Tiptoe, where your champion turns invisible for 10 seconds but moves at a slower MS. Say 50-75% MS, whatever you think is fair.

Who do you take it on and what do you take it with?

Any good early roamer, and Flash ofc
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
June 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#807
Might as well call it Ghost Walk instead of Tiptoe... I might take it on Kat so you can tiptoe into position for a perfect ult when ganking side lanes. What breaks the stealth?
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#808
Requizen that would be basically the most broken and annoying thing in the game...
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#809
On June 14 2013 03:11 Requizen wrote:
Say they implement a new Summoner Spell called Tiptoe, where your champion turns invisible for 10 seconds but moves at a slower MS. Say 50-75% MS, whatever you think is fair.

Who do you take it on and what do you take it with?


Annie

"mid mia"
"anyone seen anni-"
"TIBBERS!~"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#810
On June 14 2013 03:19 Sabin010 wrote:
Might as well call it Ghost Walk instead of Tiptoe...

lol, I was deciding whether I should post that.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 18:22:04
June 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#811
On June 14 2013 03:20 Sandster wrote:
Requizen that would be basically the most broken and annoying thing in the game...

Alright, what length of time would it have to be to not be broken? 3 seconds?

I take it Ghost Walk is a Dota thing?
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 13 2013 18:22 GMT
#812
I think it would have to be balanced on how long the CD is, not how long the effect is.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 13 2013 18:23 GMT
#813
It's just annoying. Ever see games with an Eve on the other team? It's terrible for the game to force everyone to constantly buy pink wards, in every game, against every other champion.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6186 Posts
June 13 2013 18:23 GMT
#814
On June 14 2013 03:21 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:11 Requizen wrote:
Say they implement a new Summoner Spell called Tiptoe, where your champion turns invisible for 10 seconds but moves at a slower MS. Say 50-75% MS, whatever you think is fair.

Who do you take it on and what do you take it with?


Annie

"mid mia"
"anyone seen anni-"
"TIBBERS!~"

Try that but with amumu O_O
n_n
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 13 2013 18:24 GMT
#815
On June 14 2013 03:21 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:11 Requizen wrote:
Say they implement a new Summoner Spell called Tiptoe, where your champion turns invisible for 10 seconds but moves at a slower MS. Say 50-75% MS, whatever you think is fair.

Who do you take it on and what do you take it with?


Annie

"mid mia"
"anyone seen anni-"
"TIBBERS!~"


BEAR HUG!

Speaking of Annie, I got to play one game with her last night.

Started DRing 2pots. Killed enemy Diana at lvl 3...

Rushed Guise after that. We lost the game due to utter lack of map control (they got like 5 dragons uncontested), so I'm reserving judgments until after I try it some more, but I felt really squishy and felt like I didn't have nearly as much mana sustain as I wanted without RoA.

Might try implementing early Morellonomicon or DFG into it.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 13 2013 18:24 GMT
#816
On June 14 2013 03:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:20 Sandster wrote:
Requizen that would be basically the most broken and annoying thing in the game...

Alright, what length of time would it have to be to not be broken? 3 seconds?

I take it Ghost Walk is a Dota thing?

Things we learn from eve. Stealth is stupidly hard mechanic to balance' much less doing it for all champions.
liftlift > tsm
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
June 13 2013 18:25 GMT
#817
On June 14 2013 03:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 03:20 Sandster wrote:
Requizen that would be basically the most broken and annoying thing in the game...

Alright, what length of time would it have to be to not be broken? 3 seconds?

I take it Ghost Walk is a Dota thing?


Yeah it's one of Invokers spells
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 13 2013 18:25 GMT
#818
On June 14 2013 03:23 Sandster wrote:
It's just annoying. Ever see games with an Eve on the other team? It's terrible for the game to force everyone to constantly buy pink wards, in every game, against every other champion.

Yeah but if it slows you, it's not like it's a huge mobility tool that lets you position yourself perfectly. 50% MS for 3 seconds while stealthed is more of a juking/reposition tool rather than a "bypass all wards on the map" tool.

And of course the CD would be comparable to Flash.
It's your boy Guzma!
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 13 2013 18:28 GMT
#819
everyone. instastealth is lol
cool beans
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 18:32:31
June 13 2013 18:31 GMT
#820
You use it in lane. Go in brush, stealth, appear on top of the guy.

Or just recall. It's impossible to check if he recalled or not unless you ward the lane brushes.

Every MIA is a threat on your own life, in addition to everyone on your team. Giving everyone a Rengar ult on top of their existing kit is just not a good idea. The only people who wouldn't use it are people already with invis, or someone like Udyr or Trundle who can't do anything with an invis since he has to just run at you anyway.
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