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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3266 Posts
January 14 2013 20:31 GMT
#8441
On January 15 2013 05:00 Vei wrote:
So... playing Shaco with the knowledge that your smoke is viewable through the fog has totally changed everything. Anyone know what the min range on the sight is? A screen size, or more? Because I was trying to check enemy creep camps at the start of one game vs an Enemy Shaco, and couldn't see any jitb at wraith or wolves... which would've been a bit much but yea. Just wondering.


I believe its normal sight range. You see the smoke if its inside your sight radius, whether its hidden in fog (behind walls, in brush) or not
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 14 2013 20:36 GMT
#8442
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#8443
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.


I post and comment there often, I could help you out.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 20:57:58
January 14 2013 20:57 GMT
#8444
There's also the shameless plugging that shake does, where you ask us liquidians to go upvotelook at your thread you on reddit :> It's not advertising, honest?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 14 2013 20:57 GMT
#8445
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9179 Posts
January 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#8446
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

I put it on the tournament calendar for what it's worth.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#8447
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.


Don't maul me with your hammer!
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:05:56
January 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#8448
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.


If there's anything you can count on us in the subforum for, it's a bunch of free upvotes.

Edit: Oshi, MoonBear hammer. No one post about Leona.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2013 21:01 GMT
#8449
On January 14 2013 18:52 TheYango wrote:
The Dragon advantage for blue side is only half the story. The terrain disadvantage of purple's Baron approaches compared to blue side's is arguably just as large an issue. Notice how Purple team very rarely approaches Baron through the top tribrush and almost always goes through the wraith ramp? It's because that tribrush is a fucking death trap and impossible to approach through without being forced into taking a lot of damage from a bad position. By comparison, both blue team approaches are usable entrances to the Baron area. Purple's Baron approaches are also much further apart, meaning that purple team more or less must 5-man through the same enclosed area or risk being cut off, while blue's 2 Baron approaches are closer and much more able to support one another (admittedly, the change to the wraith ramp in S3 makes Purple side's movement through there much less dangerous).

Purple has a similar terrain advantage around dragon, but it's offset by blue's more favorable duo bot. Even if you lane-swap, having duo bot means you inherently have more vision/creep/jungle control around Dragon area because of how the lane pressure prevents your bot laner from being able to provide vision control of the Dragon area.

Though Baron stalls usually has advantage for blue, usually when it reaches baron time, majority of the time there is already a team that has a "clear advantage", and this is more so a problem involving how lane phase works out in purple/blue side, than the actual baron problem. Yes, baron perpetuates/snow balls this problem, but as an over effect is seemingly less of a problem than the lane phase, and gank paths.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2013 21:03 GMT
#8450
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?
liftlift > tsm
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
January 14 2013 21:04 GMT
#8451
On January 15 2013 05:31 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 05:00 Vei wrote:
So... playing Shaco with the knowledge that your smoke is viewable through the fog has totally changed everything. Anyone know what the min range on the sight is? A screen size, or more? Because I was trying to check enemy creep camps at the start of one game vs an Enemy Shaco, and couldn't see any jitb at wraith or wolves... which would've been a bit much but yea. Just wondering.


I believe its normal sight range. You see the smoke if its inside your sight radius, whether its hidden in fog (behind walls, in brush) or not

its further than vision range.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#8452
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2013 21:08 GMT
#8453
On January 15 2013 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.

R.I.P. Chiharu, you'll be missed.
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:13:44
January 14 2013 21:09 GMT
#8454
On January 15 2013 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.


WUT. ='-( How will we get accurate tournament predictions nao?

Also, where's the Diana icon at, because you NEED IT MB. NEED IT.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 14 2013 21:10 GMT
#8455
On January 15 2013 06:09 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.


WUT. ='-( How will we get accurate tournament predictions nao?

Ask yango.
liftlift > tsm
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 14 2013 21:19 GMT
#8456
I have no idea what I'm doing as Shaco, pretty much get first blood without fail and then zero kills for the rest of the game LOL
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
January 14 2013 21:21 GMT
#8457
On January 15 2013 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.

R.I.P. Chiharu, you'll be missed.

+ Show Spoiler +

Sun is gone
Cackle™
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:32:07
January 14 2013 21:29 GMT
#8458
On January 15 2013 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.

Jesus, Neo, I read "passed away" and nearly had a heart attack.
Not cool bro.

Grats MB on banling status!!

As for Reddit, I'll try to get a post up later tonight (I'm still hesitant to put it up myself because I'm so sure some mod will remove it for reasons I don't understand) and we can get the TL brigade into upvoteviewing mode I suppose.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:30:37
January 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#8459
Double post, I'm a huge retard.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#8460
On January 15 2013 06:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:52 TheYango wrote:
The Dragon advantage for blue side is only half the story. The terrain disadvantage of purple's Baron approaches compared to blue side's is arguably just as large an issue. Notice how Purple team very rarely approaches Baron through the top tribrush and almost always goes through the wraith ramp? It's because that tribrush is a fucking death trap and impossible to approach through without being forced into taking a lot of damage from a bad position. By comparison, both blue team approaches are usable entrances to the Baron area. Purple's Baron approaches are also much further apart, meaning that purple team more or less must 5-man through the same enclosed area or risk being cut off, while blue's 2 Baron approaches are closer and much more able to support one another (admittedly, the change to the wraith ramp in S3 makes Purple side's movement through there much less dangerous).

Purple has a similar terrain advantage around dragon, but it's offset by blue's more favorable duo bot. Even if you lane-swap, having duo bot means you inherently have more vision/creep/jungle control around Dragon area because of how the lane pressure prevents your bot laner from being able to provide vision control of the Dragon area.

Though Baron stalls usually has advantage for blue, usually when it reaches baron time, majority of the time there is already a team that has a "clear advantage", and this is more so a problem involving how lane phase works out in purple/blue side, than the actual baron problem. Yes, baron perpetuates/snow balls this problem, but as an over effect is seemingly less of a problem than the lane phase, and gank paths.

I'd honestly be happy if they detached "First Pick" from "Blue side spawn" - let the (coinflip winner/higher seed/whatever your system is) pick their choice of one or the other, and the coinflip loser gets the other one - like in Football/Soccer where one side chooses EITHER first kick OR which side of the field, and their opponent gets their choice on the one they didn't pick.

That way, even if there is some small advantage seen in picking one or the other (an advantage seen in being first pick, or one seen in being a specific side), it can be weighed out by giving the losing coinflip a concession choice.
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