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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1901
It helps if you are entertaining when putting on what is essentially a show yes.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#1902
On October 22 2012 05:10 Parnage wrote:
It helps if you are entertaining when putting on what is essentially a show yes.


Which is why the NA scene will never be good.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 20:19:04
October 21 2012 20:18 GMT
#1903
On October 22 2012 05:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:10 Parnage wrote:
It helps if you are entertaining when putting on what is essentially a show yes.


Which is why the NA scene will never be good.

Wait I don't get it. Are you saying that the current NA casters aren't entertaining enough or that the NA scene isn't good because they're trying to entertain?

Edit: Also I'm up to duo if you still want to at some point
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 21 2012 20:27 GMT
#1904
Why did curse FF in TSM tourney?
Freeeeeeedom
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
October 21 2012 20:28 GMT
#1905
On October 22 2012 05:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:10 Parnage wrote:
It helps if you are entertaining when putting on what is essentially a show yes.


Which is why the NA scene will never be good.


Because they want to entertain watchers while playing soloq?

Maybe thats why reapered left Blaze, his stream is super entertaining, so i doubt he will ever accomplish anything. :|
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 20:30:20
October 21 2012 20:28 GMT
#1906
On October 22 2012 05:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:12 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:10 Parnage wrote:
It helps if you are entertaining when putting on what is essentially a show yes.


Which is why the NA scene will never be good.

Wait I don't get it. Are you saying that the current NA casters aren't entertaining enough or that the NA scene isn't good because they're trying to entertain?

Edit: Also I'm up to duo if you still want to at some point


No I am saying that a lot of the NA players make so much money from streaming that there is no need for them to get good or be competitive. Why practice 10 hours a day trying to win a tournament when you can just stream 10 hours a day to make a buck load of money?

EDIT: i might be able to play tonight. Donno yet.

On October 22 2012 05:28 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 05:12 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 22 2012 05:10 Parnage wrote:
It helps if you are entertaining when putting on what is essentially a show yes.


Which is why the NA scene will never be good.


Because they want to entertain watchers while playing soloq?

Maybe thats why reapered left Blaze, his stream is super entertaining, so i doubt he will ever accomplish anything. :|


I actually think Reapered streaming was a by-product of his dysfunctional position in the team. Perhaps he knew he was leaving the team for months; it is only recent that *we* got to know about it.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 20:35:17
October 21 2012 20:33 GMT
#1907
On October 22 2012 05:27 cLutZ wrote:
Why did curse FF in TSM tourney?


they are on their way to china afaik

^ above me, Reapeared alrdy streamed a few weeks after MLG Summer Arena way before the whole disaster of losing to frost in the semis and losing to sword in the s3 finals qualifier. Also Helios and Lustbuy recently started streaming as well. What I didnt know is that he had to go to Azubu Frost's dorm alone and "guard" it when they were in LA lol.
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
October 21 2012 20:33 GMT
#1908
No I am saying that a lot of the NA players make so much money from streaming that there is no need for them to get good or be competitive. Why practice 10 hours a day trying to win a tournament when you can just stream 10 hours a day to make a buck load of money?


Was actually funny watching chaox marathon, when some random dude asked if he was willing to do some private lessons for 100$, and chaox was like "nah, 100$ bucks not that much" I am glad to get that from a full days of work, heh.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 21 2012 20:36 GMT
#1909
Funny how oddone always used to complain about voldemort and now he is voldemort
Cackle™
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#1910
On October 22 2012 05:33 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
No I am saying that a lot of the NA players make so much money from streaming that there is no need for them to get good or be competitive. Why practice 10 hours a day trying to win a tournament when you can just stream 10 hours a day to make a buck load of money?


Was actually funny watching chaox marathon, when some random dude asked if he was willing to do some private lessons for 100$, and chaox was like "nah, 100$ bucks not that much" I am glad to get that from a full days of work, heh.

Yeah seriously in what kind of world do these guys live ?
I guess this shows that esport is really becoming serious.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 21 2012 20:50 GMT
#1911
damn oddone 33k viewers, i wonder how much money he makes whenever he presses that ad button
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 21 2012 21:02 GMT
#1912
Normally it's like $3 per 1000 ads. So say you have 20k viewers and do 3 ads every hour. That equates to $180/hr. Most streamers normally run 3 ads after every game though, which might average out to about every 30 mins. So $360/hr actually isn't impossible to make. :p
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 21:06:22
October 21 2012 21:03 GMT
#1913
On October 22 2012 06:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
Normally it's like $3 per 1000 ads. So say you have 20k viewers and do 3 ads every hour. That equates to $180/hr. Most streamers normally run 3 ads after every game though, which might average out to about every 30 mins. So $360/hr actually isn't impossible to make. :p

You didn't factor in adblock. Stil a shitton of money though.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#1914
A lot of factors are left out of that. It's just basic math of what's "possible."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
AleKSei23
Profile Joined February 2007
Mexico75 Posts
October 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#1915
Anyone knows any preview PBE changes?
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
October 21 2012 21:11 GMT
#1916
On October 22 2012 06:03 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 06:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
Normally it's like $3 per 1000 ads. So say you have 20k viewers and do 3 ads every hour. That equates to $180/hr. Most streamers normally run 3 ads after every game though, which might average out to about every 30 mins. So $360/hr actually isn't impossible to make. :p

You didn't factor in adblock. Stil a shitton of money though.


I am guessing at least 50% of the viewers run add block, so the income would be much less than this but yeah it is still a lot of money.

However the problem with Esport and LoL in particular is that it pays great to a very small amount of people. If you are at the top of the tree then yeah it pays big, but if you are in one of the lower tier teams, then it isn't so great...
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 21 2012 21:17 GMT
#1917
On October 22 2012 06:11 fishinguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 06:03 JackDino wrote:
On October 22 2012 06:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
Normally it's like $3 per 1000 ads. So say you have 20k viewers and do 3 ads every hour. That equates to $180/hr. Most streamers normally run 3 ads after every game though, which might average out to about every 30 mins. So $360/hr actually isn't impossible to make. :p

You didn't factor in adblock. Stil a shitton of money though.


I am guessing at least 50% of the viewers run add block, so the income would be much less than this but yeah it is still a lot of money.

However the problem with Esport and LoL in particular is that it pays great to a very small amount of people. If you are at the top of the tree then yeah it pays big, but if you are in one of the lower tier teams, then it isn't so great...



Isn't that the point of riot's sponsored s3 league?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 21 2012 21:22 GMT
#1918
On October 22 2012 06:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 06:11 fishinguy wrote:
On October 22 2012 06:03 JackDino wrote:
On October 22 2012 06:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
Normally it's like $3 per 1000 ads. So say you have 20k viewers and do 3 ads every hour. That equates to $180/hr. Most streamers normally run 3 ads after every game though, which might average out to about every 30 mins. So $360/hr actually isn't impossible to make. :p

You didn't factor in adblock. Stil a shitton of money though.


I am guessing at least 50% of the viewers run add block, so the income would be much less than this but yeah it is still a lot of money.

However the problem with Esport and LoL in particular is that it pays great to a very small amount of people. If you are at the top of the tree then yeah it pays big, but if you are in one of the lower tier teams, then it isn't so great...



Isn't that the point of riot's sponsored s3 league?


Inherent flaw. The players/teams who get the most viewers often have that because they are in the top teams. They've gotten recognized for their success. So they get lots of ad revenue as well as the riot sponsorship.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 21 2012 21:23 GMT
#1919
On October 22 2012 05:36 TheKefka wrote:
Funny how oddone always used to complain about voldemort and now he is voldemort

What do you mean?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
October 21 2012 21:25 GMT
#1920
It's impossible not to wuv OddOne. :3
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