But I hate playing Sona.
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
But I hate playing Sona. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 24 2012 08:58 wei2coolman wrote: I bought fiora the day she came out. Still underpowered as fuck, but every single ip was worth it. Easily one of my favorite champions in the game, though I don't know why I like playing her so much. I have seen her played by Wingsofdeathx. She seems OK against Nidalee. Basically you play her sort of like Irelia except you got no CC nor true damage. In exchange you have a pretty good ultimate and two steroids. What Fiora lacks is probably itemization (AD + CDR item? anti-kiting item?). When S3 starts I think she will be stronger because I am certain Riot will be addressing this problem. | ||
little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
But wtf happend? Ferus vs. CLG.na inc, then stream broke, now it's orb vs ??? - help, someone explain! | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:08 Sufficiency wrote: I have seen her played by Wingsofdeathx. She seems OK against Nidalee. Basically you play her sort of like Irelia except you got no CC nor true damage. In exchange you have a pretty good ultimate and two steroids. What Fiora lacks is probably itemization (AD + CDR item? anti-kiting item?). When S3 starts I think she will be stronger because I am certain Riot will be addressing this problem. Yeah, I saw him play it yesterday night (or technically this morning at like 2am). He was shitting stuff up with fiora, but that's not really saying much, he's one the best top laners in NA (if not the best) | ||
JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Aphro's in team select with CLG but they're not starting yet. Finals could be delayed until the other match is over. Not certain, but Aphromoo's streaming if they play. | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:09 little fancy wrote: Watching this. But wtf happend? Ferus vs. CLG.na inc, then stream broke, now it's orb vs ??? - help, someone explain! Game going on now is the third place match. After this CLG v Ferus will be streamed for the finals. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
some combination of dblades + wriggles, then straight BT, GA. Teamfights -> wait till GA pops, ult for full heal. CDR is for chumps anyways. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:13 Irave wrote: Game going on now is the third place match. After this CLG v Ferus will be streamed for the finals. Thank you very much. Finals will still be Bo1, right? | ||
Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:36 TheYango wrote: I've been curious since day 1 why people go BT or other AD-based builds on Fiora. Her AD ratios are not that good, and her ult applies full on-hit damage but only diminished AD-based damage on successive hits to the same target (and the first and last hits are required to hit the same target). Triforce, Wit's, or other mixed offensive/defensive items feel like they'd make more sense. Is 240% bonus AD on her ult a bad ratio? What's a good AD ratio? | ||
HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:36 TheYango wrote: I've been curious since day 1 why people go BT or other AD-based builds on Fiora. Her AD ratios are not that good, and her ult applies full on-hit damage but only diminished AD-based damage on successive hits to the same target (and the first and last hits are required to hit the same target). Triforce, Wit's, or other mixed offensive/defensive items feel like they'd make more sense. Because of her steroid, I guess? And out of habit. It doesn't seem like Fiora's played a lot at the higher levels, and below where people go by ear maybe they're just reminded of Yi and thus built her like him. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:36 TheYango wrote: I've been curious since day 1 why people go BT or other AD-based builds on Fiora. Her AD ratios are not that good, and her ult applies full on-hit damage but only vastly diminished AD-based damage on successive hits to the same target (and the first and last hits are required to hit the same target). Triforce, Wit's, or other mixed offensive/defensive items feel like they'd make more sense. 120% AS steroid from E and 2.4 bonus AD ratio from R. Seems good enough to me. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:39 Zdrastochye wrote: Is 240% bonus AD on her ult a bad ratio? What's a good AD ratio? She has a total combo ratio of 360% AD. That's fairly mediocre compared to other "AD casters". Lee has 480%, Garen has , Wukong has 670%, Renekton has 450%. A fully-charged Bloodthirster adds 240 damage to her ult. Wit's End costs significantly less, adds 210 damage, and gives you full Wit's stacks when you come out. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:44 TheYango wrote: She has a total combo ratio of 360% AD. That's fairly mediocre compared to other "AD casters". Lee has 480%, Garen has , Wukong has 670%, Renekton has 450%. Each autoattack is 100% bonus AD ratio. | ||
Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:44 TheYango wrote: She has a total combo ratio of 360% AD. That's fairly mediocre compared to other "AD casters". Lee has 480%, Garen has , Wukong has 670%, Renekton has 450%. A fully-charged Bloodthirster adds 240 damage to her ult. Wit's End costs significantly less, adds 210 damage, and gives you full Wit's stacks when you come out. And she has a 120% AS steroid plus 35 extra AD, making BT a lot stronger than a wits. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:46 Sufficiency wrote: Each autoattack is 100% bonus AD ratio. Because Lee, Garen, Wu, and Renek don't Auto? | ||
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