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[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 134

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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11458 Posts
October 09 2012 03:08 GMT
#2661
On October 09 2012 11:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
But you own the rights to a purchased product. Resale yada yada. Similar to how I can't be sued by disney for showing someone else the lion king. Private property is different, I couldn't go into a kespa show with a camera and stream that. If you buy a product, they no longer have any interest in what I do with it. I'm pretty sure there's even a tl topic in the general forum about copyright laws.


You are wrong. Disney can, and will, sue you if you show the lion king in an open setting, like a bar. You own some rights, usually involving looking at it, and showing it in a private setting, but not the right to show it commercially, or redistribute copies of it etc...

At least that is how it works in Germany, and i think it works like that elsewhere, too. Do you really think a cinema can just buy a DVD for 10€ and then show that movie?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 09 2012 03:10 GMT
#2662
On October 09 2012 11:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
But you own the rights to a purchased product. Resale yada yada. Similar to how I can't be sued by disney for showing someone else the lion king. Private property is different, I couldn't go into a kespa show with a camera and stream that. If you buy a product, they no longer have any interest in what I do with it. I'm pretty sure there's even a tl topic in the general forum about copyright laws.


You can't be sued for showing somebody the Lion King in your house, but you can be sued for playing the Lion King in a public setting at a bar. People are going to the bar to watch your movie, they're buying drinks. You are making a profit off of showing the movie, it is against the law to do that without the permission of the company that owns the movie.

Riot is dicks for doing that to Boston, but lets get the record straight, they very much are allowed to tell barcrafts they can't show it under whatever conditions they want. (Doesn't mean they aren't dicks)
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 03:13:16
October 09 2012 03:12 GMT
#2663
On October 09 2012 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:
I hate this so-called "Barcraft" thing anyway. Blizzard got some nerves registering a trademark for "bar, alcohol, and games". Why don't they just get a patent for it so they can easily sue anyone else who wants to host tournaments in a public setting?


Blizzard took the single most altruistic path possible as I understand it D:
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
October 09 2012 03:41 GMT
#2664
On October 09 2012 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:
I hate this so-called "Barcraft" thing anyway. Blizzard got some nerves registering a trademark for "bar, alcohol, and games". Why don't they just get a patent for it so they can easily sue anyone else who wants to host tournaments in a public setting?


#1. You can't patent something that is not a Machine, Manufacture, Process, or Composition of Matter. See: 35 U.S.C. § 101 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/35/101
#2. Trademarks can last forever (see Coca Cola) patents last 20 years from the date of filing.

On October 09 2012 12:08 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 11:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
But you own the rights to a purchased product. Resale yada yada. Similar to how I can't be sued by disney for showing someone else the lion king. Private property is different, I couldn't go into a kespa show with a camera and stream that. If you buy a product, they no longer have any interest in what I do with it. I'm pretty sure there's even a tl topic in the general forum about copyright laws.


You are wrong. Disney can, and will, sue you if you show the lion king in an open setting, like a bar. You own some rights, usually involving looking at it, and showing it in a private setting, but not the right to show it commercially, or redistribute copies of it etc...

At least that is how it works in Germany, and i think it works like that elsewhere, too. Do you really think a cinema can just buy a DVD for 10€ and then show that movie?


In America it is called "Public Performance" of a copyrighted work. 17 U.S.C. § 106 (4)

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/106

Freeeeeeedom
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 09 2012 03:45 GMT
#2665
On October 09 2012 12:01 Koenig99 wrote:
Been playing a ton of top lane lately (mainly Jax), and I'm having a hell of a time laning against Darius and Jayce. What heroes counter/do well vs those 2?


you can give this site a try: http://lolcounter.com/
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 03:49:25
October 09 2012 03:47 GMT
#2666
On October 09 2012 12:01 Koenig99 wrote:
Been playing a ton of top lane lately (mainly Jax), and I'm having a hell of a time laning against Darius and Jayce. What heroes counter/do well vs those 2?

I've never had a hard time vs Darius as Garen. Jayce though... fuck that guy. I think vs a good Jayce you can only hope to break even in lane and not be behind a ton of CS and then hope to bring more to a teamfight.
On October 09 2012 12:45 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 12:01 Koenig99 wrote:
Been playing a ton of top lane lately (mainly Jax), and I'm having a hell of a time laning against Darius and Jayce. What heroes counter/do well vs those 2?


you can give this site a try: http://lolcounter.com/

That looks like a championselect.net spinoff. And championselect is notorious for being unhelpful.
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 09 2012 03:52 GMT
#2667
Still max w first as ezreal or q first now?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#2668
On October 09 2012 12:41 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:
I hate this so-called "Barcraft" thing anyway. Blizzard got some nerves registering a trademark for "bar, alcohol, and games". Why don't they just get a patent for it so they can easily sue anyone else who wants to host tournaments in a public setting?


#1. You can't patent something that is not a Machine, Manufacture, Process, or Composition of Matter. See: 35 U.S.C. § 101 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/35/101
#2. Trademarks can last forever (see Coca Cola) patents last 20 years from the date of filing.

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 12:08 Simberto wrote:
On October 09 2012 11:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
But you own the rights to a purchased product. Resale yada yada. Similar to how I can't be sued by disney for showing someone else the lion king. Private property is different, I couldn't go into a kespa show with a camera and stream that. If you buy a product, they no longer have any interest in what I do with it. I'm pretty sure there's even a tl topic in the general forum about copyright laws.


You are wrong. Disney can, and will, sue you if you show the lion king in an open setting, like a bar. You own some rights, usually involving looking at it, and showing it in a private setting, but not the right to show it commercially, or redistribute copies of it etc...

At least that is how it works in Germany, and i think it works like that elsewhere, too. Do you really think a cinema can just buy a DVD for 10€ and then show that movie?


In America it is called "Public Performance" of a copyrighted work. 17 U.S.C. § 106 (4)

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/106



I am well aware that Blizzard cannot patent Barcraft; I was being sarcastic. My feeling about it is still the same though.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
October 09 2012 04:13 GMT
#2669
On October 09 2012 12:52 IMoperator wrote:
Still max w first as ezreal or q first now?


Depends on the situation, both are viable. If i find I been landing lots of Q's and their support bush wacks alot, then i max Q. If its a heavy AS dependant AD carry and their support is melee or armor heavy, then i max W. Or if the lane is passive i max Q for better harass potential and last hitting. Either way, it doesnt matter much because by the time of team fights both will be maxed anyway.
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 04:33:57
October 09 2012 04:31 GMT
#2670
On October 09 2012 12:05 Alaric wrote:
Dyrus seems to think Darius does well against Jayce, esp. if both junglers are involved. I heard that Kayle is good against him. I also heard it about Irelia but there's no way I'm going to believe it (and people haven't been able to tell me precisely why when I asked in Irelia or Jayce's threads here).
Jayce with no jungle intervention has the advantage over Darius (cf. Dyrus again). I'm pretty sure Rengar beats him. I managed to smash one as Wukong but that was most probably him being bad. Nunu beats Darius.

edit: nvm, can't read

RE: irelia vs jayce. The reason irelia vs jayce can work for irelia is that jayce can't initiate trades with irelia at melee range, because as soon as you q+e combo her, she q's right back and stuns, giving her a few true dmg autos and putting her ahead in the trade. Likewise, in the early game, irelia can't initiate a trade on jayce, since he'll just accel range q + hammer q + e her away. This makes it a fairly passive lane early on, and both champs can actually farm pretty comfortably. After that, there's a point at which irelia can just bully jayce and heal up so fast that there's nothing he can really do about it. I think in general, the mistake that most jayces make when facing irelia (or at least the ones who face me) is getting too cocky somewhere between lvls 5 and 7 and trying to initiate on her and falling right into her lap.

the only thing is that irelia has a vulnerability when both champs are lvl 2 that she has to be careful of.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
October 09 2012 04:36 GMT
#2671
On October 09 2012 09:21 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 08:56 GranDim wrote:
On October 09 2012 08:23 Seuss wrote:
Protip: You have a 90% chance of getting honored for teamwork simply by playing Coop vs AI.


It kind of worked..

[image loading]
[image loading]


What's with those champions icons? How did you get them, because some of them look pretty cool.


Chinese art pack http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1976480 you'll also need RAF manager for loading screen and in game but you should probably read the entire post. Its updated semi regularly when the tencent client gets its own art.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 09 2012 05:37 GMT
#2672
On October 09 2012 12:52 IMoperator wrote:
Still max w first as ezreal or q first now?

Doubelift says max W if you suck in lane, and need the help in lane dominance.
Max Q if you plan on out playing enemy AD carry, because Q has better damage output overall in teamfights.
liftlift > tsm
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 09 2012 06:13 GMT
#2673
Gandhisauce/De4ngus back spotted @ 1:45

|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 06:36:44
October 09 2012 06:35 GMT
#2674
LOL how da fuk can u tell its me

moomoo #1 back spotter thats op
GANDHISAUCE
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 09 2012 06:35 GMT
#2675
On October 09 2012 15:35 De4ngus wrote:
LOL how da fuk can u tell its me

I didn't notice at first, but that's definitely you.
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 09 2012 06:42 GMT
#2676
Wow, just started playing karthus and he's surprisingly a lot of fun. I played him once during a free week before and I found him super boring, but now I realized that he does a ton of dps and his passive is really cool in teamfights.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#2677
On October 09 2012 15:42 IMoperator wrote:
Wow, just started playing karthus and he's surprisingly a lot of fun. I played him once during a free week before and I found him super boring, but now I realized that he does a ton of dps and his passive is really cool in teamfights.


Only if you run Revive Teleport. hue
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 09 2012 07:15 GMT
#2678
Does phantoml0rd do anything beside smurfing?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 09 2012 07:29 GMT
#2679
On October 09 2012 16:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Does phantoml0rd do anything beside smurfing?


Screaming. Lots of screaming.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 09 2012 07:57 GMT
#2680
Watching reaperred has given me an impression that Kha'Zix is OP....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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