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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 22 2012 02:33 GMT
#1861
Orianna goes back at full hp/mp with blue to go buy a deathcap (would've had it earlier with no gp10) and promptly gives Dignitas a free team fight because they couldn't get vision when and where they needed it and went too close panicing over baron.
twitch.tv/cratonz
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2012 02:34 GMT
#1862
Dig is like the opposite of CLG. Where CLG hates/doesn't care for dragon, Dig gets like every single one.
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 22 2012 02:34 GMT
#1863
Who "invented" this LW rush on ad carries that get TF first? Is this just another trend like M5 Genja building GA all so often or did somebody do some super crazy math to prove that Trinity Force into Last Whisper is the new way to go?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2012 02:35 GMT
#1864
oh gawd, scarra doing soooo much work.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 22 2012 02:36 GMT
#1865
What a seriously horrific level of play by CLG black in the last 10 minutes.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 02:37:20
August 22 2012 02:36 GMT
#1866
On August 22 2012 11:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hilar that LiNk's 3 GP10s are keeping him ahead of scarra in total gold.


I'd rather have Scarra's items.


Same. But still amusing never the less. LiNk's pretty stubborn when it comes to builds.


It was just bothering me hearing the casters harp on it so much. She has the gold lead, Riot apparently had better nerf gp5 more!

Yeah, she also has 1625 gold invested in 200 hp for teamfights while still not having t2 boots at 25 minutes. (I'm also aware he had Kage's, but so did Scarra so I'm callign that a wash)
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 22 2012 02:37 GMT
#1867
On August 22 2012 11:36 Craton wrote:
What a seriously horrific level of play by CLG black in the last 10 minutes.

I still can't believe how hard they got baited by the retard magnet ward. That must have been like the most obvious bait ever. And they ate it hook, line, sinker. And probably the fishing rod too. @_@
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2012 02:37 GMT
#1868
On August 22 2012 11:34 little fancy wrote:
Who "invented" this LW rush on ad carries that get TF first? Is this just another trend like M5 Genja building GA all so often or did somebody do some super crazy math to prove that Trinity Force into Last Whisper is the new way to go?


It's not really a trend, more of a playstyle.

Trinity on Corki/Ez is nothing new. It's up to the player whether they want straight up DPS (IE) or more utility (Trinity).

LW I think was because of Dig's awsum frontline (yet again). Olaf got a lot more farmed (than Rumble) and Cho.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 22 2012 02:38 GMT
#1869
CLG doesn't really have any damage
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2012 02:39 GMT
#1870
On August 22 2012 11:36 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hilar that LiNk's 3 GP10s are keeping him ahead of scarra in total gold.


I'd rather have Scarra's items.


Same. But still amusing never the less. LiNk's pretty stubborn when it comes to builds.


It was just bothering me hearing the casters harp on it so much. She has the gold lead, Riot apparently had better nerf gp5 more!

Yeah, she also has 1625 gold invested in 200 hp for teamfights while still not having t2 boots at 25 minutes. (I'm also aware he had Kage's, but so did Scarra so I'm callign that a wash)


I'm not watching the stream, get to obs (hi5).

But if the casters are really saying that, they are retarded as shit. LiNk might be ahead of scarra in gold but it never mattered at all. scarra wrecked faces just about every team fight this 3rd game.

The only sad thing is that between LiNk's stubbornness and caster ignorance, the LoL community continues to be tricked with bad builds and retarded "logic".
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 22 2012 02:39 GMT
#1871
That was really hard to watch.

I love LiNk and Hoodstomp but holy shit Zuna and Sid played so fucking terribly.
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Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 22 2012 02:40 GMT
#1872
I feel like the casters have focused too much on Orianna/Diana having evenish gold; mostly from gp5s, rather than CLG refusing to play at an early game advantage type game where Shyvanna/Orianna need to shine to beat out KogMaw. Was more like an auto-loss as soon as LiNK wanted to go so many gp5s against Kogmaw when they had low pressure on him and no burst to nuke him 100-0.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2012 02:42 GMT
#1873
CLG just got comp'd hard imoimo.

That switch killed Rumble so hard, he became an ulti bot late game. Crumbz on the other hand, maintained his relevance. His GP10s mattered, that Omen was a good pick.
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 22 2012 02:43 GMT
#1874
On August 22 2012 11:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:34 little fancy wrote:
Who "invented" this LW rush on ad carries that get TF first? Is this just another trend like M5 Genja building GA all so often or did somebody do some super crazy math to prove that Trinity Force into Last Whisper is the new way to go?


It's not really a trend, more of a playstyle.

Trinity on Corki/Ez is nothing new. It's up to the player whether they want straight up DPS (IE) or more utility (Trinity).

LW I think was because of Dig's awsum frontline (yet again). Olaf got a lot more farmed (than Rumble) and Cho.



I don't question Trinity Force but rather the immediate follow up LW. As you said, it's a trade DPS vs. Utility, so if I go for Utility (TF) first, some "real" DPS should follow IMO.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2012 02:45 GMT
#1875
On August 22 2012 11:43 little fancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:34 little fancy wrote:
Who "invented" this LW rush on ad carries that get TF first? Is this just another trend like M5 Genja building GA all so often or did somebody do some super crazy math to prove that Trinity Force into Last Whisper is the new way to go?


It's not really a trend, more of a playstyle.

Trinity on Corki/Ez is nothing new. It's up to the player whether they want straight up DPS (IE) or more utility (Trinity).

LW I think was because of Dig's awsum frontline (yet again). Olaf got a lot more farmed (than Rumble) and Cho.



I don't question Trinity Force but rather the immediate follow up LW. As you said, it's a trade DPS vs. Utility, so if I go for Utility (TF) first, some "real" DPS should follow IMO.


I think the "standard" follow up on Trinity is indeed an IE. But either way, game wasn't lost because Hoodstomp decided to LW second.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 02:48:23
August 22 2012 02:45 GMT
#1876
The builds never even mattered in this game. Any team with good builds would still lose to this passive "make no mistakes just like we practiced and get 10 kills in 30 minutes" style of play.

Ezrael died in two of the last fights before getting 2 autos off. He'd have done better with BT Negatron and Chain Mail.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 22 2012 02:45 GMT
#1877
Ez's LW pick up is probably a direct response to how much armor Dig had. Olaf and Cho both stacked that armor up and with aegis buff, Diana also had a fair bit of armor especially with the zhonya pick up.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
August 22 2012 02:47 GMT
#1878
On August 22 2012 11:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
Dig is like the opposite of CLG. Where CLG hates/doesn't care for dragon, Dig gets like every single one.

That's been their MO since Jatt.


TD really underperformed during their time as Atlanta's team, so this upcoming series should be interesting. Hopefully the return of Nintendude will revitalize them.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 02:54:29
August 22 2012 02:51 GMT
#1879
kinda refreshing to not have generic electronica during pauses.

edit: do tournaments ever run into licensing problems with the music that they play?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#1880
On August 22 2012 11:47 HPoirot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
Dig is like the opposite of CLG. Where CLG hates/doesn't care for dragon, Dig gets like every single one.

That's been their MO since Jatt.


TD really underperformed during their time as Atlanta's team, so this upcoming series should be interesting. Hopefully the return of Nintendude will revitalize them.

Wait Nintendude went back to TD after they shafted him?
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