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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 12:57:02
March 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#41
Positives:
  • Really, really good production values. Tournaments worldwide, take note!
  • Free HD Stream. Always great!
  • Listening into team vent is nice.
  • Casters are doing a good job. Especially since they haven't cast LoL before this tournament. Can still improve though.

Negatives:
  • Can hear Korean Commentators while English Commentators talk sometimes. I suppose it's unavoidable, however would be nice to get directional mics for the English Commentators maybe?
  • There are awkward pauses during the Korean Interviews and then the translation runs into the next question which means that material gets lost.
  • There are times when the Korean Stream continues broadcast in-between games but the English Stream just goes to black. Was also a time when on the stream it just said "No Stream Detected" which suggests that it's a re-broadcast through Own3D and Twitch of a separate source?
  • Commentators still have many ways to improve. One of the main things would be to learn LoL better and perhaps get to know the players and scene better. One of them (Mole?) got Chauster and SaintV's voice confused when they were trying to commentate about the CLG Vent. Little details like these are important.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 13:07:07
March 28 2012 12:59 GMT
#42
Positives
+ Absolutely stunning production quality
+ Shots of playerfaces after ingame-events
+ Plenty of streams to chose from. Sometimes Twitch laags for me and i love that i can switch to owned.
+ Free high quality stream. I have to mention this extra.

Negatives
- Casters need a lot more gameknowledge. The cast seems to be catered to players that dont know much about LoL. I want casters that explain item-builds in detail. Casters who explain what happens during a teamfight while it happens. Screaming enthusiastickly is without analyzing why the fight ended the way it did is bad.
They also should learn the champion-names, abilities and builds. Would help them a lot, beeing less confusing and more knowledgeable.
Mentioning and comapring CS to measure the success of a lane should be done a lot more often.
- Casters knowledge of the LoL-scene. Knowing playernames etc.

All in all the positive things ogn did from the start are in my opinion things that would be hard to fix, so i am glad that those things are already at a very high level. The negatives will take some time to work on, but are fixable if they are focused on.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#43
Negative: Lack of direct links to the streams. If you can't have live link, perhaps you could put the links in the info text.
I am not young enough to know everything.
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
March 30 2012 11:37 GMT
#44
Positives
+ Everything and everyone looks so pretty.

Negatives
- Don't like the hours.
- Don't like the commentators.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 30 2012 11:37 GMT
#45
On March 30 2012 20:11 Jiddra wrote:
Negative: Lack of direct links to the streams. If you can't have live link, perhaps you could put the links in the info text.

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They have a button on the top left of their page to pop out the stream, but you need to sign up for their site first. If you mean on TL, then it's a matter of getting an admin to link the stream to the event.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
March 30 2012 13:36 GMT
#46
On March 30 2012 20:37 gaizka wrote:
Positives
+ Everything and everyone looks so pretty.

Negatives
- Don't like the hours.
- Don't like the commentators.


There are restreams.
And saying you dont like the commentators is not really productive critizism. Help them improve their casting.
thom
Profile Joined March 2010
England105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 12:01:03
April 04 2012 11:49 GMT
#47
Positives
Everything except the casters

Negatives
The casters - mainly moletrap. Please stop explaining blue buff every 10 seconds and please stop explaining every single item. I understand they don't know much about the game, but reading item / ability descriptions is not an effective silence filler.

It was the same when he was casting the GSL, his game knowledge was very minimal. He did improve over a long period of time - but I want good casters NOW!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 16:35:08
April 09 2012 16:34 GMT
#48
Negative

-On the friday vod page, it spoils the matchup for the 'final' match is listed on top of the list, thus spoiling both the 'winners' and 'losers' match, should change to a screenshot of the crowd and name the vod 'final' w/o team names, a la GSL vods.
Carrilord has arrived.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 16:21:36
April 20 2012 16:21 GMT
#49
On March 30 2012 22:36 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 20:37 gaizka wrote:
Positives
+ Everything and everyone looks so pretty.

Negatives
- Don't like the hours.
- Don't like the commentators.


There are restreams.

Negative
- The latest resteams were moved to the least accessible time possible for US viewers, from around 1 EDT to 6:30 EDT. I basically can't watch this tournament now, as excellent as it is.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
May 02 2012 21:56 GMT
#50
Positives:

Torch is learning about the game, enough to correct moletrap some of the time when he's wrong. There wasn't any I disliked about his casting style but he's improved greatly on the knowledge component since the first initial casts


Negatives

Picks and bans - Statistics of bans by teams during previous matches, although nice, don't give enough insight as to why they're picked. During the countdown/loading, instead of filler on how good someone is at x champion which tells viewers nothing, insight on how lanes may work would be nice.

An example would be a lane such as graves taric vs ashe soraka. Losing proposition for soraka/ashe at every point of laning since once the heal is down and the armour buff wears off graves/taric have a 15 second window to stun one of the two and 100-0 them as soraka without her heal does essentially nothing. The silence is annoying but nothing compared to the armour shred of shatter or the AS steroid and massive burst of graves.

I watched game 1 of MiG Frost vs Xenics Storm. I recommend you guys go through that as well. Torch I feel corrected moletrap quite a few times during this game.

The WHAT WHAT WHAT has to go. it's distracting, doesn't really add excitement and makes me mute the stream.

Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 04 2012 08:56 GMT
#51
Positives:

Like many before me have said, the production values are just amazing. The crowd is also quite enthusiastic, reminds me of BW at times. Always a pleasure to watch, provided I'm up late enough for it.

Negative:

The rebroadcast times for these games are just god awful. As a student that's on summer break i have the time to watch these but for others, it's impossible for them to watch unless they just pull an all nighter.

On the subject of terrible stream times, vods would be a nice way of remedying this.

Casters are a little bit annoying sometimes but forgivable. Hoping that they improve for future events.

Bronze player stuck in platinum
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
May 05 2012 00:50 GMT
#52
Positives:
+ The Camera control is absolutely amazing. This observer is great.
+ Torch is growing as a commentator.
+ Generally an all-around great experience. Worth staying up from 3:30am until 7:00am PST.

Negatives:
- Moletrap says things that are wrong. I wish he'd try hard to become more knowledgable about the game.
- The Ads. Started allowing adblocker for the stream because occasionally they come up at really bad times.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
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