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General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 11 2012 12:04 GMT
#2381
Slow movement from fnatic around the map makes them lose top 2nd tower and mid AND dragon, though they get a rumble kill at top.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 11 2012 12:05 GMT
#2382
And Fnatic gets aced.

ST goes for a reactionary baron.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 11 2012 12:06 GMT
#2383
ST get an amazing initation off with ashe+rumble arrow and catch fnatic completly off guard. 5-2 kills in ST favour and they pick up baron. Looks rly hard for fnatic now.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 11 2012 12:06 GMT
#2384
... they dropped the Nashor so fast. Rumble+Cass+Ashe. Wtf.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
April 11 2012 12:06 GMT
#2385
What team is the best in the world ? And what team is the best team outside of Korea ?
Dead girls don't say no.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
April 11 2012 12:07 GMT
#2386
22 min no oracle, no wards... no wonder they drop out in 1st round of every tournament they enter...
When in doubt, just drone up.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 11 2012 12:07 GMT
#2387
Well this game is pretty over.

Fnatic get aced after a suprise attack and St got baron.
No oracles on fnatic, but tons of good wards for st
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 12:10:37
April 11 2012 12:09 GMT
#2388
Fnatic can't stack their AoE, they almost get counter-initiated and destroyed, and must stop the chase as rylai Rumble + Ashe can't get caught w/o two much damage incurred.

Edit: and by "can't", I mean "weren't coordinated enough to do so". That + wards is really what bites them I feel.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 11 2012 12:10 GMT
#2389
On April 11 2012 21:06 Sqq wrote:
What team is the best in the world ? And what team is the best team outside of Korea ?


m5 (Russian team).
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 11 2012 12:12 GMT
#2390
ST just played better in every way.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 11 2012 12:12 GMT
#2391
fnatic get rolled, ace for nothing. fnatic just have no damage outside of ap ulti combos, and ST have janna to protect them. Pretty much over now, St gonna pick up baron too.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 11 2012 12:12 GMT
#2392
No focus, half of the team running like headless chickens... Fnatic can't teamfight at all (and I mean don't seem to know how to) if they can't initiate and stack Vlad and Kennen's ult.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 12:16:19
April 11 2012 12:15 GMT
#2393
On April 11 2012 21:12 Logros wrote:
ST just played better in every way.

Yeah, startale presses R way better than Fnatic.

Not trying to be sarcastic here, both have AoE comps and Fnatic just got destroyed in every fight due to bad ult-stacking. Also a shoutout to Janna, best support against such a comp.

And Fnatic not having an AD carry and getting owned during laning doesn't help, but I think they'd have lost even if Lamia didn't die 2 times. ST got a better comp.

On April 11 2012 21:12 Alaric wrote:
No focus, half of the team running like headless chickens... Fnatic can't teamfight at all (and I mean don't seem to know how to) if they can't initiate and stack Vlad and Kennen's ult.

Not easy playing Kennen against Janna.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 11 2012 12:17 GMT
#2394
Ye, I think it's more down to team comps than fnatic playing poorly in team fights. fnatic have to try and initiate and get good ap ultis off on lots of ST against ashe arrow and janna ulti. Duno why fnatic wouldn't ban janna if they wanted to run this comp.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
April 11 2012 12:17 GMT
#2395
Torch and Moletrap listened to the feedback. They're trying very hard to use ability names during engagements.

The mig v st games should be nice on Friday.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
April 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#2396
On April 11 2012 21:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 21:12 Logros wrote:
ST just played better in every way.

Yeah, startale presses R way better than Fnatic.

Not trying to be sarcastic here, both have AoE comps and Fnatic just got destroyed in every fight due to bad ult-stacking. Also a shoutout to Janna, best support against such a comp.

And Fnatic not having an AD carry and getting owned during laning doesn't help, but I think they'd have lost even if Lamia didn't die 2 times. ST got a better comp.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 21:12 Alaric wrote:
No focus, half of the team running like headless chickens... Fnatic can't teamfight at all (and I mean don't seem to know how to) if they can't initiate and stack Vlad and Kennen's ult.

Not easy playing Kennen against Janna.



Sorry, but ST does way more than pressing R better than Fnatic.
They ganked bot right before Fnatics blue spawned, so they can steal it with no trouble. They pressured mid every time Fnatics Blue or Dragon was spawning, splitpushing with rumble top in the meantime to build up even more pressure. Also riven counterwarding(with oracle) all game with no oracle on fnatic for ages...list goes on.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#2397
ST bait baron in brush, ashe arrow into ace, only 1 dies. gg
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
April 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#2398
AMBUSH
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
April 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#2399
another facecheck for fnatic...sigh
When in doubt, just drone up.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
April 11 2012 12:21 GMT
#2400
Startale player almost crying :3
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