• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:12
CET 22:12
KST 06:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1625 users

[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 95

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 205 Next
Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22064 Posts
December 04 2011 00:23 GMT
#1881
Damn i wish i watched that bot lane Been like forever since we've had a succesfull leona in a big tournament.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#1882
holy jesus, chaox making copp look like a 1100 elo

wow, how did Crs beat clg

"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 04 2011 00:27 GMT
#1883
On December 04 2011 09:24 tobi9999 wrote:
holy jesus, chaox making copp look like a 1100 elo

wow, how did Crs beat clg




mostly because alistar is god awful vs ezrael. gets shit on everytime
Brees on in
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 04 2011 00:32 GMT
#1884
So normally you put your best player on support. Crs puts theirs worst player on support (lol).
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 00:48:09
December 04 2011 00:37 GMT
#1885
Is that jungle Pantheon + support Leona for Goose & support Yorick for Epik? This'll be entertaining.

Edit: Yep, L2 gank on bot from Pantheon for first blood, then helps Kennen kill Fizz mid. Red buff spears OP.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
December 04 2011 00:38 GMT
#1886
TSM wins in a pretty one sided game.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 04 2011 00:38 GMT
#1887
On December 04 2011 09:32 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So normally you put your best player on support. Crs puts theirs worst player on support (lol).


Yeah, he gets too aggressive and wastes the Alistar ult when TSM was just poking.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 04 2011 00:39 GMT
#1888
On December 04 2011 09:32 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So normally you put your best player on support. Crs puts theirs worst player on support (lol).


That's completely unfounded.
Dignitas has L0cust on support and he's probably the player who can least carry their team.
TSM's best is Chaox on AD. Xpecial is definitely not the worst either.
etc, etc

There's no consistency about putting your best or worst player on Support role.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Delicious.Cake
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 00:39:43
December 04 2011 00:39 GMT
#1889
Wow TSM just crushed Crs, that wasnt even close.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 04 2011 00:43 GMT
#1890
On December 04 2011 09:39 Delicious.Cake wrote:
Wow TSM just crushed Crs, that wasnt even close.


yea people forget that when TSM scrims/plays they usually have 1 drunk guy and 1-3 guys who are on 3 hours of sleep.

when they're playing for real, they rape.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 04 2011 00:52 GMT
#1891
On December 04 2011 09:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 09:32 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So normally you put your best player on support. Crs puts theirs worst player on support (lol).


That's completely unfounded.
Dignitas has L0cust on support and he's probably the player who can least carry their team.
TSM's best is Chaox on AD. Xpecial is definitely not the worst either.
etc, etc

There's no consistency about putting your best or worst player on Support role.


To be fair, Liquid is by far Curse's worst player.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 04 2011 00:57 GMT
#1892
On December 04 2011 09:52 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 09:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 04 2011 09:32 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So normally you put your best player on support. Crs puts theirs worst player on support (lol).


That's completely unfounded.
Dignitas has L0cust on support and he's probably the player who can least carry their team.
TSM's best is Chaox on AD. Xpecial is definitely not the worst either.
etc, etc

There's no consistency about putting your best or worst player on Support role.


To be fair, Liquid is by far Curse's worst player.


Exactly, Liquid is bad, regardless of role. Period.
But that's not what Arcbound said.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 01:05:42
December 04 2011 00:59 GMT
#1893
Rather than putting your overall best player on support, you should be putting your best or second best play caller on support (i.e. high map awareness and game sense) IMO.
edit: or if your support can only play support like elementz or me
Translator:3
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 04 2011 01:01 GMT
#1894
epik looking so bad without salce
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 01:02:42
December 04 2011 01:02 GMT
#1895
First time I watch jiji's stream in months. Holy shit I know he's a lot worse than he was but just wow. His last hitting is just atrocious at this point.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 04 2011 01:03 GMT
#1896
On December 04 2011 09:59 infinitestory wrote:
Rather than putting your overall best player on support, you should be putting your best or second best play caller on support (i.e. high map awareness and game sense) IMO.


Definitely agreed.
Support and/or Jungler should shotcall. Both positions need high map awareness. Other three roles need to micromanage their lane and tend to zone in too much.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
December 04 2011 01:03 GMT
#1897
Man, v8 games always way more interesting than other games.

http://www.twitch.tv/national_esl2

v8 vs clg

V8 with first blood, but their jungle is way behind.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 04 2011 01:04 GMT
#1898
On December 04 2011 09:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 09:52 dnastyx wrote:
On December 04 2011 09:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 04 2011 09:32 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So normally you put your best player on support. Crs puts theirs worst player on support (lol).


That's completely unfounded.
Dignitas has L0cust on support and he's probably the player who can least carry their team.
TSM's best is Chaox on AD. Xpecial is definitely not the worst either.
etc, etc

There's no consistency about putting your best or worst player on Support role.


To be fair, Liquid is by far Curse's worst player.


Exactly, Liquid is bad, regardless of role. Period.
But that's not what Arcbound said.

I should say; You shouldn't put your worst player on support.
Imagine rainman (by far TSM's worst player) bot with chaox. I don't think it's possible for him to win his lane top, let alone properly heal someone else.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 04 2011 01:06 GMT
#1899
On December 04 2011 10:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
First time I watch jiji's stream in months. Holy shit I know he's a lot worse than he was but just wow. His last hitting is just atrocious at this point.

He gets between 3 and 4 each wave. Quite painful to see.
The legend of Darien lives on
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
December 04 2011 01:15 GMT
#1900
How old is rainman? :p
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 205 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 524
ProTech141
UpATreeSC 132
elazer 84
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 387
firebathero 106
910 18
HiyA 10
Dota 2
Fuzer 262
Pyrionflax228
canceldota88
Counter-Strike
fl0m2528
Fnx 1440
byalli654
Foxcn300
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox887
Mew2King38
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu507
Other Games
gofns7528
summit1g2468
Grubby2184
FrodaN971
Mlord448
ToD255
mouzStarbuck155
KnowMe124
ArmadaUGS109
QueenE83
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 33
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 79
• Hupsaiya 26
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 30
• Pr0nogo 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3969
• TFBlade1234
Other Games
• imaqtpie1913
• Shiphtur283
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
13h 49m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
19h 49m
Percival vs Gerald
Serral vs MaxPax
RongYI Cup
1d 13h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
1d 15h
BSL 21
1d 17h
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
Tektek Cup #1
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.