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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 18 2011 05:14 GMT
#4301
super jungler char?
And all is illuminated.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 18 2011 05:24 GMT
#4302
On January 18 2011 14:12 arnath wrote:
And Yango, just off that video, you're telling me that a hero that can restore 1/4 of his hp at level 4 every 10 seconds or something, for FREE (using a dash in, Q, dash out), wouldn't be overpowered? Also, at some point Phreak shows off his 110 creep kills in 12 mins (which is REALLY damn good) and is like "this isn't perfect, just something to aim for" as it was perfectly normal.

We don't know the CDs, and we don't know the final numbers.

And Phreak always does that. He showed off similar numbers CS numbers as "something to aim for" in his MF video, IIRC (at least, I think it was MF, I don't remember exactly which champ, but I know he's used 12 min/100 cs as a benchmark on at least one of the other spotlights).
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iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 05:27:15
January 18 2011 05:24 GMT
#4303
110 by 12.5 min is not "really damn good" if you're focusing on cs, it's just slightly above average. If you look at the cs for carries in high elo streams it pretty much IS perfectly normal. 12 min -> 100 cs is a pretty normal benchmark

Also Xypherous has said there have been massive nerfs since the spotlight, so dont judge based on the video?
Source: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=454102
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 18 2011 06:08 GMT
#4304
On January 18 2011 14:24 iaeuy wrote:
110 by 12.5 min is not "really damn good" if you're focusing on cs, it's just slightly above average.


You know I pretty much never see that kind of cs in high level streams.

I mean literally never.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 06:23:41
January 18 2011 06:19 GMT
#4305
Hm really? :/
Idk I see it once in a while or carries that are farming really well or sivirs that arent getting much opposition. Maybe I'm just wrong though?

Also I'm pretty sure I also saw Loco himself playing sivir today with 100ish cs at 12ish minutes. His comments were that this was ok/pretty good and he can't really complain but that he could potentially be csing better.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 06:25:14
January 18 2011 06:25 GMT
#4306
O_O
Read the whole Renekton thing. (lore and stuff)
OF COURSE HE'S OP, hell, he should be
obviously op in the champ judgement
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#4307
On January 18 2011 15:19 iaeuy wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure I also saw Loco himself playing sivir today with 100ish cs at 12ish minutes. His comments were that this was ok/pretty good and he can't really complain but that he could potentially be csing better.

That's because Sivir CSes like a boss.

On most champs, Loco uses the more reasonable benchmark of 14 min/100 cs as an "average" game.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
January 18 2011 07:02 GMT
#4308
On January 18 2011 15:36 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 15:19 iaeuy wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure I also saw Loco himself playing sivir today with 100ish cs at 12ish minutes. His comments were that this was ok/pretty good and he can't really complain but that he could potentially be csing better.

That's because Sivir CSes like a boss.

On most champs, Loco uses the more reasonable benchmark of 14 min/100 cs as an "average" game.


There's also his average time for Infinity Edge.

18 minutes with 1 Doran's Blade
19 minutes with 2
20 minutes with 3
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 08:21:27
January 18 2011 07:47 GMT
#4309
So an 11 min RoA + boots 2 would be good, yes? ;p
edit: holy fuck people are bad at this game it makes me qq
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 18 2011 08:32 GMT
#4310
At 12 minutes, you got to farm off 20 waves. That's 125 minions. Getting 100 of those is pretty much free farm.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 18 2011 08:53 GMT
#4311
Oh man, listening to you guys talking about 100 cs at like 15 min is making feel like a mega-noob
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
January 18 2011 08:57 GMT
#4312
On January 18 2011 17:53 Abenson wrote:
Oh man, listening to you guys talking about 100 cs at like 15 min is making feel like a mega-noob


Should learn to lasthit with shitty autoattacks like Anivia, makes the rest seem easy.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
January 18 2011 09:03 GMT
#4313
On January 18 2011 17:57 mercurial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 17:53 Abenson wrote:
Oh man, listening to you guys talking about 100 cs at like 15 min is making feel like a mega-noob


Should learn to lasthit with shitty autoattacks like Anivia, makes the rest seem easy.


Have you tried playing carry Soraka? It's so hard to cs.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 18 2011 09:30 GMT
#4314
In LOL you really only need to lasthit seriously for 10 minutes before you can start spamming skills or have enough attack damage to not care about lasthitting. Farming with carries is hilariously easy compared to like having to lasthit every creep one by one with no attack damage items at 30minutes with fucking faceless void in dota where almost no carries have any creep clearing skills.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
January 18 2011 09:43 GMT
#4315
bfury bro
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 18 2011 09:50 GMT
#4316
bfury only for trolling
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 10:02:09
January 18 2011 10:00 GMT
#4317
Speaking of trolling, well played to MrEnzyme for trolling Riot forums, having a full page of people call you out on calling Xin's nerf a buff. Obvious troll is obvious, but sheeple's gonna bite.

EDIT: Maybe not, but if you WERE a troll, it would be so funny.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
January 18 2011 10:02 GMT
#4318
Jax is now viable, this jump is now actually pretty decent at lvl 1.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 18 2011 14:03 GMT
#4319
On January 18 2011 18:03 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 17:57 mercurial wrote:
On January 18 2011 17:53 Abenson wrote:
Oh man, listening to you guys talking about 100 cs at like 15 min is making feel like a mega-noob


Should learn to lasthit with shitty autoattacks like Anivia, makes the rest seem easy.


Have you tried playing carry Soraka? It's so hard to cs.


By carry Soraka I hope you mean carry Zilean, I"m pretty sure he has the worst auto left in the game right now.

The only one that matched that was old rammus...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#4320
On January 18 2011 23:03 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 18:03 dnastyx wrote:
On January 18 2011 17:57 mercurial wrote:
On January 18 2011 17:53 Abenson wrote:
Oh man, listening to you guys talking about 100 cs at like 15 min is making feel like a mega-noob


Should learn to lasthit with shitty autoattacks like Anivia, makes the rest seem easy.


Have you tried playing carry Soraka? It's so hard to cs.


By carry Soraka I hope you mean carry Zilean, I"m pretty sure he has the worst auto left in the game right now.

The only one that matched that was old rammus...


Karthus's auto attack is abysmal. Fortunately you have Q.
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