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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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intruding
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
I actually have a BBQ going on tomorrow but I'll be inside watching TV :o It must be overcrowded there.. I hope he gets a fitting and respectable funeral. | ||
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K_ Takahashi
United States203 Posts
To me MJ was the pinnacle of the 80s, an experimental and visual time driven by many people though perfected by this one artist. It says a lot when I have been out for a walk around the block that I hear a Jackson song coming from a car or a house that it must mean something to these people, on a more personal note my girlfriend's father came over with a thriller vinyl an blasted the shit really loud ( I feared a police disturbance call) but all was good, that first edition sounded just as good as when it did those many years ago. | ||
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stanley_
United States816 Posts
it's from rehearsal 2 days before his death. Sry if it was posted before. apparently there is more footage. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On June 28 2009 10:27 Jelly wrote: This song states all my opinions on the matter pretty well actually ; Awesome | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
qft, it fits so well to whats actually happening in media and web | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
Fuck all those people taking advantage of him. | ||
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On June 30 2009 07:06 intruding wrote: CrimsonLotus, if you dont like MJ's music, you have very Bizarre musical tastes. probably as Bizarre as MJ himself in his later years. The guy was prodigious enough to make music appreciation almost completely objective. even if you dont like his music, he's an icon. a world figure. like Mani said, he was more than music, he inspired, influenced, transformed, transcended cultures, invented, entertained, gave a positive message, gave to charities...etc.. Look, you may like his musical talents, but seperate his skill from his personal being please. This is the guy who paid 24 million to settle a molestation case out of court. This is a guy who slept with little kids that he paid to visit Neverland. How anyone can look up to molesters and pedophiles, regardless of their talents well...there is something strangely sadistic to that. Just because you are acquitted in a court of law (Which, if you have money and or a celebrity you are all but guaranteed acquittal), which means they found you 'not guilty' not 'innocent' doesn't mean he/she hasn't actually committed the crime. Perfect case for this is OJ. Please, I may have eclectic music tastes (Black, Ambient, Melodic Death, Symphonic, Neo-Classical, Power, etc. metal), but I am in no way, as bizarre as a person who commits disgusting crimes, changes ethnicity, believes to be in a fairy tale, etc upon etc. All of my friends also listen to only the same things I do (Genre wise) and we are by no means bizarre. Lest I remind you, there are many world figures, solely being a world figure does not lead credence to being looked upon positively (See: Dictators, Felons, etc.). Now, having said that, everyone here is by all means entitled to their own opinions, allowed to grieve, etc., but please there are many people who dislike MJ very much for his horrendous acts, which transcends anything else. Also, I'm tired of hearing this for a week straight when important issues such as Cap and Trade is hardly noticed in the media. Not only that, but Sheila Lee, is reprehensible. | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On July 07 2009 15:36 Aegraen wrote: Look, you may like his musical talents, but seperate his skill from his personal being please. This is the guy who paid 24 million to settle a molestation case out of court. This is a guy who slept with little kids that he paid to visit Neverland. How anyone can look up to molesters and pedophiles, regardless of their talents well...there is something strangely sadistic to that. Just because you are acquitted in a court of law (Which, if you have money and or a celebrity you are all but guaranteed acquittal), which means they found you 'not guilty' not 'innocent' doesn't mean he/she hasn't actually committed the crime. Perfect case for this is OJ. Please, I may have eclectic music tastes (Black, Ambient, Melodic Death, Symphonic, Neo-Classical, Power, etc. metal), but I am in no way, as bizarre as a person who commits disgusting crimes, changes ethnicity, believes to be in a fairy tale, etc upon etc. All of my friends also listen to only the same things I do (Genre wise) and we are by no means bizarre. Lest I remind you, there are many world figures, solely being a world figure does not lead credence to being looked upon positively (See: Dictators, Felons, etc.). Now, having said that, everyone here is by all means entitled to their own opinions, allowed to grieve, etc., but please there are many people who dislike MJ very much for his horrendous acts, which transcends anything else. Also, I'm tired of hearing this for a week straight when important issues such as Cap and Trade is hardly noticed in the media. Not only that, but Sheila Lee, is reprehensible. He isn't a pedophile... The kid even fucking said hes not sure what happened. Micheal Jackson liked kids in a happy way, and he like them because his parents weren't around much... | ||
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On July 07 2009 15:46 Clasic wrote: He isn't a pedophile... The kid even fucking said hes not sure what happened. Micheal Jackson liked kids in a happy way, and he like them because his parents weren't around much... So, that explains why he likes to sleep with them, and why he paid 24 million to one of the kids....Come on, you think a kid that looks up to MJ is going to send him to jail? Of course he isn't. Anyways, how can a kid not be sure? Because he doesn't understand the gravitas of the situation. | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On July 07 2009 15:49 Aegraen wrote: So, that explains why he likes to sleep with them, and why he paid 24 million to one of the kids....Come on, you think a kid that looks up to MJ is going to send him to jail? Of course he isn't. Anyways, how can a kid not be sure? Because he doesn't understand the gravitas of the situation. Source for him sleeping with kids? Dude, idk where your from but say if a Mom or Dad sleep with their kids ( not stick their dick in the kid incase you were wondering ) just shows that the mom/dad has love for the kid and cares about them. | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
On July 07 2009 15:49 Aegraen wrote: So, that explains why he likes to sleep with them, and why he paid 24 million to one of the kids....Come on, you think a kid that looks up to MJ is going to send him to jail? Of course he isn't. Anyways, how can a kid not be sure? Because he doesn't understand the gravitas of the situation. All 'evidence' there was was based on speculation by the media.. the only allegations were those of the kid, whose visual descriptions didn't match reality. Imo giving a false and incorrect description has nothing to do with 'not being sure'. A big investigation had been done, but not a single piece of plausible evidence could be found. Instead of wanting to completely destroy MJ, the kiddo wanted $60 mil to settle for his complaint + a court order to allow him to publish his own musical composition instead? In an interview MJ said that he was outraged when his lawyers said they couldn't 100% make sure that justice would prevail. The $22 mil settlement he made was mainly a decision made by his lawyers and advisers. I honestly believe that MJ tried to make the world a better place and had a great genuine love for others. He has always been very generous and spent a lot of his profit on charities and devoted his life to entertain the public and to give them what they wanted. This made him an odd guy that never had been able to grow up a normal life, which caused him to be misunderstood by the public. I guess his 'creepy' looks didn't really work in his favor either. Anyways, if you want to separate his skill from his personal being, you might want to consider all the great things he has done next to the rumors and scandals which were mainly hyped by the media but never have been proven. | ||
Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
On June 30 2009 07:06 intruding wrote: CrimsonLotus, if you dont like MJ's music, you have very Bizarre musical tastes. probably as Bizarre as MJ himself in his later years. The guy was prodigious enough to make music appreciation almost completely objective. I think one should always be careful not to project one's own tastes in matters of music onto others. The claim that Michael Jackson (of all people! why not Mozart, or John Lennon or Animal Collective?) made "musical appreciation almost completely objective" is, if I understand it correctly, rather outlandish. | ||
GTR
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
On July 07 2009 08:12 stanley_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b54tTBU_u7k&feature=related it's from rehearsal 2 days before his death. Sry if it was posted before. apparently there is more footage. the background dancers are doing the hitler salute at 0:59 ! scandalous!11 | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On July 07 2009 19:37 Smorrie wrote: All 'evidence' there was was based on speculation by the media.. the only allegations were those of the kid, whose visual descriptions didn't match reality. Imo giving a false and incorrect description has nothing to do with 'not being sure'. A big investigation had been done, but not a single piece of plausible evidence could be found. Instead of wanting to completely destroy MJ, the kiddo wanted $60 mil to settle for his complaint + a court order to allow him to publish his own musical composition instead? In an interview MJ said that he was outraged when his lawyers said they couldn't 100% make sure that justice would prevail. The $22 mil settlement he made was mainly a decision made by his lawyers and advisers. I honestly believe that MJ tried to make the world a better place and had a great genuine love for others. He has always been very generous and spent a lot of his profit on charities and devoted his life to entertain the public and to give them what they wanted. This made him an odd guy that never had been able to grow up a normal life, which caused him to be misunderstood by the public. I guess his 'creepy' looks didn't really work in his favor either. Anyways, if you want to separate his skill from his personal being, you might want to consider all the great things he has done next to the rumors and scandals which were mainly hyped by the media but never have been proven. Look, just to clear this up I'm going to be succinct so you can get to the heart of the issue without any 'celebrity' bias. From the BBC documentary and MJ's own recorded account: "I have slept in a bed with many children," Now, think about this for a second. This at the time was a 45 year old man. Ask yourself, would you ever allow your children to sleep in bed, with a 45 year old man? Do you think those actions constitute a mental deficiency and a clear sexual problem? Why would anyone laud this guy? Sure, he was a musician and popular, but his actions have superceded his fame. It's time to stop holding celebrity's above others, as if they are ordained and apparently hold some greater admiration. This coming in the same week in which the most decorated soldier in the history of the US who had multiple purple hearts, and served in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam and flew countless missions died. That is the person people should look up to and admire. I guess the sworn affidavit by the child was propagated by the media......and as such, wasn't evidence. I would be remis if I did not ask you, what do you feel constitutes evidence? http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/mjdec1.gif http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/mjdec2.gif http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/mjdec3.gif http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/mjdec4.gif This isn't the only time, nor the first to come forward. The recurring issue, and the fact that MJ himself admitted to sleeping with children paints a pretty clear picture. That said, I'll also point out in regards to the crazy antics of late by Sheila Lee and Al Sharpton this whole MJ ordeal lately is such a damn freak show and as a nation and a society, we have so much more to worry about and many more deserving people of media attention. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
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