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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
May 15 2008 23:44 GMT
#101
On May 16 2008 08:18 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2008 08:03 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Oh god... Not another thread of horrible, unfunny puns... I MUST SAVE THIS THREAD! GO SEAN CONNERY!


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Consider the thread unsaved.



man you just posted my favourite youtube video, that was a great save
hello there
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 15 2008 23:52 GMT
#102
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 15 2008 23:57 GMT
#103
Oh yeah I've seen those in a book before. Pretty intense.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
May 16 2008 00:17 GMT
#104
I think I need to earn 15.16 million USD inorder to appreciate 'art.'
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 16 2008 00:21 GMT
#105
Everything is modern art nowadays ... wtf
^-^
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 00:27:54
May 16 2008 00:27 GMT
#106
On May 16 2008 08:52 nemY wrote:
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Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
May 16 2008 00:29 GMT
#107
Well... what's special about the statue of David? Other than the fact that Michelangelo made it out of a shitty piece of marble there wasn't anything particularly difficult about it... "average" artists of the period could have probably succeeded with a bigger piece of marble. It's fucking naked too. Or Mona Lisa. What the fuck? Just a smiling woman. What's the big deal? Sure it's very well painted, but Leonardo da Vinci is not the only guy who could have done it. Or what about The Scream? I bet even I could paint that one! Or Botticelli's Birth of Venus, it's just pr0n, like hentai. Or Les Mademoiselles d'Avignon, not only is it pornographic (like hentai!) it's also drawn with like .0001 of the skill. Why criticize just this painting on these grounds when there is a host of others to criticize for these same reasons?
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
May 16 2008 00:36 GMT
#108
lol listening to you guys talk about this piece is like listening to the sc2 battle.net forums talk about progaming
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 16 2008 00:36 GMT
#109
On May 16 2008 09:29 Hippopotamus wrote:
Well... what's special about the statue of David? Other than the fact that Michelangelo made it out of a shitty piece of marble there wasn't anything particularly difficult about it... "average" artists of the period could have probably succeeded with a bigger piece of marble. It's fucking naked too. Or Mona Lisa. What the fuck? Just a smiling woman. What's the big deal? Sure it's very well painted, but Leonardo da Vinci is not the only guy who could have done it. Or what about The Scream? I bet even I could paint that one! Or Botticelli's Birth of Venus, it's just pr0n, like hentai. Or Les Mademoiselles d'Avignon, not only is it pornographic (like hentai!) it's also drawn with like .0001 of the skill. Why criticize just this painting on these grounds when there is a host of others to criticize for these same reasons?

I get what your trying to do

but come on

pretty weak
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 16 2008 00:37 GMT
#110
On May 16 2008 08:13 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Ah, "ignorant" and "uneducated," the catch-all insult of the pseudo-intellectual.


pretty much the perfect response
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 00:56:30
May 16 2008 00:52 GMT
#111
Why criticize just this painting on these grounds when there is a host of others to criticize for these same reasons?

Because this topic is about just this piece. Make a new topic if you want to discuss lucrative art in general =/ You're trying to open up a whole new argument, when this one is already big enough, I don't want to drown myself here.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
May 16 2008 01:00 GMT
#112
the problem with most people is that they cannot overcome the "wow that looks exactly like what i've already seen in my life". they are limited to how well an artist is able to copy something - paintings of sunsets, coasts and still life. when a normal person is presented with something outside of their comfort zone and cannot really understand what it is, they immediately reject it, without trying to look past what it is, what it is trying to convey, what it is trying to communicate.

a good artist is not one who is able to recreate what everybody knows already on a piece of canvas. anyone can do that with a camera.

my interpretation on this piece of art... never really thought about it but I know it's hella famous and didnt know it was for sale until this thread. I've seen it featured in numerous art compilation and reference books.

pornography is an ever prevailant matter. we have all come in contact with it at some point in our lives and probably have more to do with it than we openly admit.
anime and specifically hentai is a very large part of japanese culture, but the very modest outward appearances of most things in japan, the extreme politeness and "wearing a mask" when at social events, this piece of art is the exact opposite.
it is an exaggerated take on the whole hentai culture, but also pays tribute to anime - the large spikey hair, the skinny body, the large eyes and of course the semen that flies out into a large swirl and the character's hand giving the impression of "controlling" the semen in flight, to me is all a very obvious nod at anime and japanese animation, as if the artist is paying homage.

my take anyway. i wish people were more understanding and acceptable of things than not giving an ounce of strength to trying to understand, instead just ridicule of anything new or alien to them
=/
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 01:02:27
May 16 2008 01:01 GMT
#113
264 cm, 8 feet+ ? I don't believe it was sold for 15 million unless it was a joke or for some charity thing or both.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
May 16 2008 01:05 GMT
#114
What... The... Fuck?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 16 2008 01:06 GMT
#115
it doesnt matter how elaborate you backstory is, or how grand your interpretation. It doesnt matter how much it sold for, or how many art books you've seen it in.

People can tell when something isnt great art. All the arguments and indoctrination in the world isnt going to change this fact.

Its merely arguing that you did, in fact, provide the emperor with new clothes, despite the fact the common person can see him in all his naked glory.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-16 01:17:04
May 16 2008 01:13 GMT
#116
my take anyway. i wish people were more understanding and acceptable of things than not giving an ounce of strength to trying to understand, instead just ridicule of anything new or alien to them
=/

Except that it's not alien, because the artist just took a recurring theme in Hentai and modelled it into a gigantic 3 dimensional statue (I actually missed the fact that it was life size... Which I guess makes it slightly more impressive). That's what I don't like about this art TBH. It isn't original, and I don't understand why it should be so valuable to anyone other than as a business tool. I could see something rare, like say the last animal or plant of a species being sold on auction for that kind of money, but something that is so recreatable... why not just pay a couple 1000 dollars to get your own, custom made? That's my perspective on lucrative art deals. I just cannot honestly believe anyone cares so much about having the original that they would spend that kind of money. It's just a liability if it ever gets stolen or destroyed, so it would only make sense if you wanted it for business opportunity (or maybe they think it's safer than real money if the dollar is falling?).

I mean, think about it. You just spent 15 million dollars on a piece of art for your personal viewing pleasure with no financial incentive. Don't you think you could have used that money better? Like donating the majority to a charity, and spending the rest on a replica that looks just as good? It only makes sense to me if the person buying it thinks they will profit off it. The controversy and media hype only convinces me further (a deal like this could be kept quiet if they were just buying it for their personal enjoyment).

LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 16 2008 01:18 GMT
#117
not to mention you spend 15 million on art and you wind up with fucking that?

I mean

come on people. lets not be stupid
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
May 16 2008 01:25 GMT
#118
I could probably eBay it for double.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
relaxxl
Profile Joined June 2007
Japan78 Posts
May 16 2008 01:44 GMT
#119
I love this thread.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 16 2008 01:50 GMT
#120
I don't doubt this man's artistic ability...but seriously, 15 million for a statue of an anime character blowing out a massive cum shot...The statue of David you can say shows the beauty of the human form, but this seems like something someone would do as a joke, not something to be taken seriously and sold for 15 million dollars.
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