EPTTry to justify bombing maternity hospital in Mariupol. How barbaric this is?
Earlier today radiological health center was shelled in Kharkiv
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
Try to justify bombing maternity hospital in Mariupol. How barbaric this is? Earlier today radiological health center was shelled in Kharkiv User was warned for this post. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Neneu
Norway492 Posts
On March 10 2022 01:07 Dav1oN wrote: https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1501579520633102349?t=nuEEhXrz-sEjZTcGQhDARA&s=19 Try to justify bombing maternity hospital in Mariupol. How barbaric this is? Earlier today radiological health center was shelled in Kharkiv This is the geolocation to the children hospital. As you can see it's mostly a large residential area with a few shops and uni. This is just what they did when assaulting urban areas in Syria. They bombed almost every single hospital they could find. I hoped they wouldn't in Ukraine. https://www.google.com/maps/place/47°05'49.0"N 37°31'59.7"E/@47.0980694,37.5329795,1774m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x198bc6e5fd967b64!8m2!3d47.096947!4d37.533261 | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On March 10 2022 02:18 Neneu wrote: This is the geolocation to the children hospital. As you can see it's mostly a large residential area with a few shops and uni. This is just what they did when assaulting urban areas in Syria. They bombed almost every single hospital they could find. I hoped they wouldn't in Ukraine. https://www.google.com/maps/place/47°05'49.0"N 37°31'59.7"E/@47.0980694,37.5329795,1774m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x198bc6e5fd967b64!8m2!3d47.096947!4d37.533261 According to major of Kharkiv - Igor Terekhov - since 24th of Feb 281 residential buildings/houses were destroyed or damaged to a different degree, as well as 102 administration buildings including 26 schools and 23 kindergardens. Some of our key administration buildings survived Hitler invasion back in days, but with Putler it's much worse Don't you think that hoping is simply not enough? | ||
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Neneu
Norway492 Posts
On March 10 2022 02:29 Dav1oN wrote: According to major of Kharkiv - Igor Terekhov - since 24th of Feb 281 residential buildings/houses were destroyed or damaged to a different degree, as well as 102 administration buildings including 26 schools and 23 kindergardens. Some of our key administration buildings survived Hitler invasion back in days, but with Putler it's much worse Don't you think that hoping is simply not enough? Oh there's quite a big difference between what I am hoping for and what I think will happen, regarding Russia's historic brutality. Which is why I support every type of help given to Ukraine and will never ever forgive Russia. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On March 10 2022 02:32 Neneu wrote: Oh there's quite a big difference between what I am hoping for and what I think will happen, regarding Russia's historic brutality. Which is why I support every type of help given to Ukraine and will never ever forgive Russia. Yea...sorry for such a weird question, the answer was obvious, and I'm also hoping for the best... But reality is so harsh and cruel, I cannot imagine doing something like that to innocent people or civilians no matter who they are, not even mentioning kids/newborns. Those ones who gave an order and those ones who executed are barbarians and must be hanged w/o any compassion or emphaty | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
And then you have russians who proudly promote the 'Z' invasion sign. How can people be like that. | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On March 09 2022 18:36 Silvanel wrote: I also did donate few days ago. In addition to doing the right thing it also kinda helped me, psychologically speaking. I felt helpless and unable to do anything about what is happening. Donating gave me the feeling of "doing my part". Don't know how good these are, but some lists of organizations: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/s6g5un/want_to_support_ukraine_heres_a_list_of_charities/ https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22955885/donate-ukraine I donated to HIAS | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On March 10 2022 00:38 Sbrubbles wrote: Well, his perspective is likely that Ukraine is doomed anyway without it, so "poisoning the relations" then becomes a moot point, as there will no longer be a Ukraine to have poisoned relations with. Do you think there is some longer game to be played here by Ukraine, one where they manage to hold onto their territory for long enough for Putin to negotiate or for some internal pressure to oust him? The russian military has performed horribly, but the overwhelming resource disparity is still there. I actually think a hostile occupation of entire Ukraine and/or effective annexation to Russia are already off the table. There aren't enough troops to occupy a country that large that doesn't want to be occupied. And as things are going even occupation of the major cities in the eastern part of the country is still long way off. So Ukraine will continue to exist regardless. So assuming Ukraine exists after the war, building resentment towards/from EU/NATO/others isn't helpful. Whether it can be avoided is debatable, but "you should have helped us more/your fault that we suffered this much" isn't particularly good starting point for a future relationship. The extent and intensity of that kind of feeling can vary, but I think it'll unfortunately be there in some amounts anyways. It'll also be unavoidable in some ways, the NFZ discussion is just one major contributing factor. One aspect I didn't think about, but was going around, is that Ukraine can use the NFZ as leverage to get other help. So by calling for the NFZ they're more likely to get weapons and supplies than what they'd get by just asking for those directly. It's very cynical, but it's a a war and international politics aren't exactly full of good will and pure hearts even at peace times. | ||
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JimmiC
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
More Starlinks arrived in Ukraine. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21701 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On March 10 2022 05:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So a historian states that Russian casualties are as high as D-Day, or Americans killed at Antietam, Overall. At Antietam over 22k Americans died in a single day. Finding that hard to believe right now. Maybe it includes injured as well. https://twitter.com/xv40rds/status/1501645677721436166 Casualty is a bracket term for a lot of things, dead, captured, fleed/deserted into MIA or wounded enough to be out of combat, are all casualties. Some news sources seem use it only to describe deaths, which makes numbers in news reporting go all over the place due to misunderstanding. But yeah, the first waves of D-day on the worst beach suffered insanely high casualty % rates, but looking at the total overall numbers of all the beaches it's starting to look more like the russian numbers. (156k soldiers 10k casualties for D-day) | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21701 Posts
On March 10 2022 05:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: allied vs American.But the question is what beach, or overall invasion on the first day? Overall 10k allied troops died in one day. so 10k allied troops may have died on d-day but only ~1500 of them being American. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 10 2022 05:42 Gorsameth wrote: allied vs American. so 10k allied troops may have died on d-day but only ~1500 of them being American. And here's the answer. | ||
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Powerpill
United States1693 Posts
On March 10 2022 08:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: And here's the answer. https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1501654430038568966 I read some interesting posts from a retired General on Twitter explaining Russia's problem with medical professionals and quick transport to hospitals and medical facilities contributing greatly to their killed in action versus merely wounded soldiers. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13956 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The Ukrainian military defeated a tank regiment of Russian troops and eliminated the commander, Colonel A. Zakharov in Brovarsky district, the press service of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense said. "During the conduct of hostilities in the Brovarsky district of Kyiv region, the battalion tactical group of the 6th tank regiment (Chebarkul) of the 90th tank division of the Central Military District suffered significant losses in personnel and equipment. In particular, the commander of the regiment, Colonel A. Zakharov, was liquidated," the press service of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense said in a statement. It is noted that as a result of significant losses of the BTGr of the 6th tank regiment, together with the battalion tactical group of the 239th tank regiment of the 90th tank division, they were forced to retreat and go on the defensive. In turn, the National Corps press service reported that "Azov" and the 72nd brigade defeated the tank regiment of the Russian Federation, as a result of which the commander of the occupying regiment was liquidated. Source | ||
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