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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1352 Posts
October 08 2018 10:01 GMT
#16441
What is it with twitter that it brings out the worst in people. Trump,Musk,noone is immune to losing his mind from using twitter. It is kinda remarkable when you think about it,why are people in function (corporate or government) still allowed to use twitter. It should be a job requirement. Thy should not use twitter.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21713 Posts
October 08 2018 10:20 GMT
#16442
On October 08 2018 19:01 pmh wrote:
What is it with twitter that it brings out the worst in people. Trump,Musk,noone is immune to losing his mind from using twitter. It is kinda remarkable when you think about it,why are people in function (corporate or government) still allowed to use twitter. It should be a job requirement. Thy should not use twitter.
Because they are attention whores and drama gives more attention then boring shit.
Also its selection bias. You hear about the few having a meltdown and not the many without twitter or who purely use it for business.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
October 08 2018 11:36 GMT
#16443
On October 08 2018 19:01 pmh wrote:
What is it with twitter that it brings out the worst in people. Trump,Musk,noone is immune to losing his mind from using twitter. It is kinda remarkable when you think about it,why are people in function (corporate or government) still allowed to use twitter. It should be a job requirement. Thy should not use twitter.


A mix of the platform becoming so ubiquitous and powerful, and the character limit forcing people to make simple, bold statements that lack context. It's both the easiest way to say horrible things to people you don't like and its immediacy promotes a lack of forethought.

Plus, a lot of people mistakenly thinking that all publicity is good publicity when in actuality a lot of bad publicity can cost you your job in most circumstances.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
October 08 2018 12:08 GMT
#16444
famous people/player earn a lot money from bad publicity. Neymar/Mbappe doing stupid dive and it will be a lot discussed about it.
Til Schweiger said he earns a lot money from hateful-posts on social media.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2018 12:40 GMT
#16445
All social media uses “engagement” as the metric to determine if something should be pushed to the top. Outrage is a form of engagement and easy to cause. It’s a system that is assured to favor the tabloids over substantive articles, but is marketed as some sort of meritocracy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
October 08 2018 12:49 GMT
#16446
On October 08 2018 19:01 pmh wrote:
What is it with twitter that it brings out the worst in people. Trump,Musk,noone is immune to losing his mind from using twitter. It is kinda remarkable when you think about it,why are people in function (corporate or government) still allowed to use twitter. It should be a job requirement. Thy should not use twitter.

What did Musk (I’m assuming Elon) say on twitter? I follow him and haven’t seen any of the like. Not anything remotely close to the aggregous things the POTUS says anyways.
Skol
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-08 13:07:52
October 08 2018 12:59 GMT
#16447
On October 08 2018 21:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2018 19:01 pmh wrote:
What is it with twitter that it brings out the worst in people. Trump,Musk,noone is immune to losing his mind from using twitter. It is kinda remarkable when you think about it,why are people in function (corporate or government) still allowed to use twitter. It should be a job requirement. Thy should not use twitter.

What did Musk (I’m assuming Elon) say on twitter? I follow him and haven’t seen any of the like. Not anything remotely close to the aggregous things the POTUS says anyways.
Fake stock buyout news which got him punished by the SEC, Hes been in a fight with one of the rescuers from the footbal children in the cave, calling him a pedo and a bunch more stupid stuff.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2018 13:07 GMT
#16448
Equally stupid was going on a radio show and smoking weed while his employees are drug tested. But the post about taking Tesla private was the thing that made the SEC finally crack down on him. He is a good hype man, but bad as being a being a responsible CEO. He acts like modern day Howard Hughes, but forgets that Hughes didn’t take is company public.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8097 Posts
October 08 2018 13:09 GMT
#16449
On October 08 2018 21:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2018 19:01 pmh wrote:
What is it with twitter that it brings out the worst in people. Trump,Musk,noone is immune to losing his mind from using twitter. It is kinda remarkable when you think about it,why are people in function (corporate or government) still allowed to use twitter. It should be a job requirement. Thy should not use twitter.

What did Musk (I’m assuming Elon) say on twitter? I follow him and haven’t seen any of the like. Not anything remotely close to the aggregous things the POTUS says anyways.


It's impossible to be remotely close to the aggregous things Trump says even if you tried. That said Musk's bout with the diver was stupid, and his lack of forethought (presumably brought out by genuine excitement) just caused him and Tesla 10 million dollars each as well as his position on the board. Twitter is dangerous, and if you ever find yourself representing multi billion dollar companies then you better damn well at the very least hire some PR people to run it with you.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
October 08 2018 13:17 GMT
#16450
I don't know, I doubt that even Trump would accuse a rescue diver of being a pedophile like Musk did.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 08 2018 13:37 GMT
#16451
Now that you mention it, it sounds exactly like a thing Trump would say.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-08 15:20:36
October 08 2018 15:19 GMT
#16452
On October 08 2018 22:17 Longshank wrote:
I don't know, I doubt that even Trump would accuse a rescue diver of being a pedophile like Musk did.


He probably wouldn't, but he'd get into a fight with them the second they said something slightly critical of them.

Trump's a nasty, racist arsehole, but I think he tends to stay away from LGBT style slurs and paedophilia accusations. Can't remember any off the top of my head (which admittedly isn't saying much; I'm not reserving much space to remember the sludge Trump calls 'the best words')
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
October 08 2018 15:22 GMT
#16453
Now that Booker has unofficially started his 2020 campaign,

1. Who do you expect to win the 2020 democrat primary?

2. Who, if you could choose, would you appoint as the 2020 democrat candidate?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12204 Posts
October 08 2018 15:25 GMT
#16454
So far, still Bernie, to all of you guys' surprise =)
No will to live, no wish to die
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-08 15:28:58
October 08 2018 15:27 GMT
#16455
Booker is a pretty reasonable choice. He isn’t perfect, but he is popular enough and could win. Plus there is that whole saving people from a fire thing. Though being entrenched in New Jersey politics almost assures skeletons in his closet.

A lot of people I know from outside MA say Warren, but folks inside MA are like “god, please don’t nominate anyone from this state.”

Personally, I just want a democrat in the White House to stop all of these terrible things Trump has done. Controlling the house is far more important in the long run.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-08 15:44:05
October 08 2018 15:40 GMT
#16456
On October 09 2018 00:25 Nebuchad wrote:
So far, still Bernie, to all of you guys' surprise =)


If Bernie runs, I think he will win. I don't think he'll run, but if he did, he would be my choice as well.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2018 15:44 GMT
#16457
I don’t know how Bernie would fair in a more competitive primary.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
October 08 2018 15:48 GMT
#16458
On October 09 2018 00:44 Plansix wrote:
I don’t know how Bernie would fair in a more competitive primary.


Cooker, Harris and Warren are all boring as fuck and have almost no following compared to Bernie. Kicking Bernie's operation into overdrive is a hell of a lot easier than convincing people to give a shit about anyone else.

I also think that if Bernie runs, there will be extreme pressure for centrists like Booker to get the fuck out. I would be super fucking disappointed if Booker tried to defeat Bernie.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
October 08 2018 15:50 GMT
#16459
This may sound shitty, but I have real problems voting for a 79 year old to hold the presidency.

Bernie is just too old for me at this point. Maybe if he put in a really solid VP I could be okay with it, but at that age I worry if he will last
Something witty
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
October 08 2018 15:52 GMT
#16460
On October 09 2018 00:50 IyMoon wrote:
This may sound shitty, but I have real problems voting for a 79 year old to hold the presidency.

Bernie is just too old for me at this point. Maybe if he put in a really solid VP I could be okay with it, but at that age I worry if he will last


So long as people have purpose, drive and sufficient medical care, I have seen a lot of really old dudes cranking shit out. Perhaps I have been given more opportunity to see this kind of stuff after hanging out in academia for a while. Emeritus professors push through a lot of bullshit and remain competitive. The trick is having purpose.
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