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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18056 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46719 Posts
On November 13 2026 20:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote: we are living in a police state. you can not discuss major league baseball games without the express written consent of MLB. So some guy went and got written permission. I hope TL.Net doesn't get taken down because of its baseball thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1xu1l4t/after_years_of_hearing_that_mlb_games_cant_be/#lightbox I don't know if this is applying to a specific context or something weird, but obviously you can talk about baseball with your friends, make YouTube videos about baseball, etc. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1959 Posts
On November 13 2026 13:13 Introvert wrote: I believe Rubio when he says that the Iranian plan was to make themselves untouchable so they could finish their nuke research. They wanted so many missiles and with such range that they could threaten anywhere in the middle east and much of europe. That can't be allowed to happen. And indeed some months ago we saw them fire off some missiles that had a longer range than anything we'd yet seem from them. It was causing some alarm. As for finishing the job, I'd like to see how the blockade continues. It seems like conditions are continuing to deteriorate and now that there's at least some form of a land blockade it's going to get worse. The end goal would be to set their nuke program back by as much as possible and reduce their capabilities enough that Iran only needs the occasional lawn-mowing operation to undo any progress that has been made. Do you also believe Rubio when he said this: “We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action,” he told reporters. “We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties.” Or do you choose to believe only the things he said after he was told to change his tune? The blockade is really going swimmingly, the traffic is down 96 %, a LNG tanker just got hit bi a mine today, despite the strait according to your heroes being mine free for months. Iran is back at around 1700 missiles in their stockpiles, they are also continuing with missile and drone production and are making about 50 missiles a month. You guys are as naive as delusional. | ||
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Slydie
2031 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18056 Posts
On November 13 2026 21:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I don't know if this is applying to a specific context or something weird, but obviously you can talk about baseball with your friends, make YouTube videos about baseball, etc. Before TV an "account of the game" was outlawed by MLB and MLB has kept that in there for many decades. It came in handy for "watch alongs". MLB aggressively uses automated copyright bots and platform takedowns to discourage and shut down independent watch-along streams anyway. Even when creators follow every legal rule—showing zero game footage and muting the broadcast—MLB's enforcement creates a massive headache for streamers: The NBA went after Motorola for relaying game events in 1997. Motorola won. The important thing to take away is not the end result. The key takeaway is MLB's intent and the NBA's intent. Any how, you can talk about the sport of baseball or basketball all you want. So fuck these leagues. They want free billion dollar stadiums made for billionaire owners while controlling what we say and how we say it. Fuck that noise. If a Washington DC $20/hour factory worker got the same treatment as the Lerner Family did with Nationals Park here is what would happen. If a factory worker in Washington, D.C. got the exact same deal the Lerner family received on Nationals Park, their financial life would flip overnight from Paycheque-to-Paycheque survival to effortless wealth building. 1. A Custom-Built $400,000 Condo for Free Instead of saving up for a down payment on a cramped studio apartment, the D.C. government would issue municipal bonds to buy land and build a brand-new, $400,000 luxury condo tailored to the worker's exact floor plan. • The City Pays the Mortgage: D.C. would pay roughly $2,300 a month in bond debt to finance the condo's construction. • The Worker's Rent: Using the same ratio as the Nationals Park lease (paying roughly 1.5% of gross annual income), the factory worker earning $39,725 a year would pay just $50 a month in rent—down from $1,850. 2. Zero Property Taxes & Free Major Repairs Because the city keeps the legal title to the condo on paper, the factory worker pays $0 in property taxes (saving another $3,500+ a year). • Taxpayer-Funded Upgrades: Whenever the condo needs a new roof, new appliances, or a modern kitchen remodel, the D.C. Council passes an emergency bill to pay for it with public funds, while the worker only covers lightbulbs and sweeping the floor. 3. The Neighbourhood Covers the Difference How would D.C. pay off the remaining $2,250-a-month mortgage gap on the worker's condo? • A Special "Worker Fee": The city would slap a small mandatory tax on every local grocery store, coffee shop, and business within two miles of the building to cover the worker's housing debt. 4. Keeping 100% of Side-Hustle Profits Even though D.C. built and owns the condo, the lease gives the factory worker total commercial control over the space. • Airbnb & Naming Rights: The worker could rent out the spare bedroom on Airbnb every weekend, host paid dinner parties, and sell naming rights to their living room—keeping every single dollar of profit without sharing a cent with the city landlord. 5. A Guaranteed 50-Year Lock-In Just as the condo's original 20-year construction loan is about to be paid off, the city agrees to extend the worker's $50/month lease for another 30 years and borrows another $200,000 to build the worker a rooftop deck and home theater. By the end of the deal, the factory worker would have pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars in saved rent and side-hustle cash—all while owning a prime piece of real estate in everything except name. so fuck these clowns | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46719 Posts
On November 13 2026 21:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Before TV an "account of the game" was outlawed by MLB and MLB has kept that in there for many decades. It came in handy for "watch alongs". MLB doesn't make laws lol. There is plenty of baseball content publicly available, and even if MLB didn't want anyone to be able to talk about major league baseball, their personal preference doesn't trump the 1st Amendment. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18056 Posts
On November 13 2026 21:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: MLB doesn't make laws lol. There is plenty of baseball content publicly available, and even if MLB didn't want anyone to be able to talk about major league baseball, their personal preference doesn't trump the 1st Amendment. i've already addressed your point in my post above. please read it. The important thing to take away is not the end result. The key takeaway is MLB's intent and the NBA's intent. i'll mark you down as an official supporter of Jeffrey Loria and Ted Lerner though.  | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46719 Posts
On November 13 2026 21:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: The important thing to take away is not the end result. The key takeaway is MLB's intent and the NBA's intent. i'll mark you down as an official supporter of Jeffrey Loria and Ted Lerner though. No idea who either of those are, but stop making obviously incorrect statements and then walking them back to what "the important thing to take away" is, which isn't at all what you originally wrote. "you can not discuss major league baseball games without the express written consent of MLB" is factually wrong and ridiculous for you to say. "an 'account of the game' was outlawed by MLB" is also factually wrong and ridiculous for you to say. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18500 Posts
On November 13 2026 21:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Before TV an "account of the game" was outlawed by MLB and MLB has kept that in there for many decades. It came in handy for "watch alongs". MLB aggressively uses automated copyright bots and platform takedowns to discourage and shut down independent watch-along streams anyway. Even when creators follow every legal rule—showing zero game footage and muting the broadcast—MLB's enforcement creates a massive headache for streamers: The NBA went after Motorola for relaying game events in 1997. Motorola won. The important thing to take away is not the end result. The key takeaway is MLB's intent and the NBA's intent. Any how, you can talk about the sport of baseball or basketball all you want. So fuck these leagues. They want free billion dollar stadiums made for billionaire owners while controlling what we say and how we say it. Fuck that noise. If a Washington DC $20/hour factory worker got the same treatment as the Lerner Family did with Nationals Park here is what would happen. so fuck these clowns Continue like this and I might even think you're a filthy commie. Because channeling a bit of GH's many personas, I'll put on the hat of a libertarian: MLB worked hard to create a successful baseball league and has the right to run it how they want and reap the fruits of their labor. If you think it isn't right, you are welcome to set up your own baseball league and prove yourself in the free market of baseball leagues! | ||
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Introvert
United States5101 Posts
On November 13 2026 21:06 Jankisa wrote: Do you also believe Rubio when he said this: Or do you choose to believe only the things he said after he was told to change his tune? The blockade is really going swimmingly, the traffic is down 96 %, a LNG tanker just got hit bi a mine today, despite the strait according to your heroes being mine free for months. Iran is back at around 1700 missiles in their stockpiles, they are also continuing with missile and drone production and are making about 50 missiles a month. You guys are as naive as delusional. The context for that snippet was not "Why?" but "Why now". Idk where the 96% number comes from maybe it's because I'm not keeping up with Iranian propaganda. And AFAIK these "mines" are really Iran attacking tankers from the shore they judt claim they are mines. Traffic is almost pre war level bur it is more expensive with insurance, extra ship to ship transfers, etc. But it's not at 4% lol. I am content to see what happens, so long as US forces are still there things aren't over. In fact I think more are arriving soon. Trump has been very consistent on Iran for decades ans while this operation may be taking longer than expected I commend him for staying the course. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1959 Posts
On November 13 2026 23:29 Introvert wrote: The context for that snippet was not "Why?" but "Why now". Idk where the 96% number comes from maybe it's because I'm not keeping up with Iranian propaganda. And AFAIK these "mines" are really Iran attacking tankers from the shore they judt claim they are mines. Traffic is almost pre war level bur it is more expensive with insurance, extra ship to ship transfers, etc. But it's not at 4% lol. I am content to see what happens, so long as US forces are still there things aren't over. In fact I think more are arriving soon. Trump has been very consistent on Iran for decades ans while this operation may be taking longer than expected I commend him for staying the course. I mean, you can just look it up, google, or just continue regurgitating propaganda: https://tankermap.com/analytics/straits/hormuz ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vDRDZdS.png) It's much easier to just write lies without checking, I can see that your orange idol is really rubbing off on you! Almost back to pre-war level, lmao. Can't wait for your imbecilic support for an idiotic war leads to such Democratic majorities that every nightmare legislation that comes to your mind happens. How will you live while more people have healthcare! When the illegal immigrants get a normal path to citizenship, what will you do, will it be worth it so you can mindlessly enjoy idiotic wars that don't do anything except make things worse for everyone. | ||
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Introvert
United States5101 Posts
On November 13 2026 23:49 Jankisa wrote: I mean, you can just look it up, google, or just continue regurgitating propaganda: https://tankermap.com/analytics/straits/hormuz It's much easier to just write lies without checking, I can see that your orange idol is really rubbing off on you! Almost back to pre-war level, lmao. Can't wait for your imbecilic support for an idiotic war leads to such Democratic majorities that every nightmare legislation that comes to your mind happens. How will you live while more people have healthcare! When the illegal immigrants get a normal path to citizenship, what will you do, will it be worth it so you can mindlessly enjoy idiotic wars that don't do anything except make things worse for everyone. You're using a website that only uses AIS data? Did I read thst right? Barrels outgoing are high, I didn't think this was something people were debating | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3553 Posts
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Introvert
United States5101 Posts
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Jankisa
Croatia1959 Posts
Here is a known propaganda rag Deuche Welle: https://www.dw.com/en/strait-of-hormuz-still-a-source-of-leverage-for-iran/a-79901647 Stating that the levels are about 65 % less then pre war. Here is a very reputable source for guys like him: https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/analysis/iran-shipping-update-november-9-2026 Saying: For the first seven days of November (Nov 1–7, 2026), U.S.-facilitated bidirectional transits through the southern corridor averaged 31.0 vessels per day (217 total transits). While substantially higher than AIS-visible counts, this remains roughly 63% below the ~85-vessel pre-war daily norm. So I'll officially apologize for using the wrong data, the actual number is 35 % of pre-war traffic, just as Introvert stated, almost at the pre-war levels. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10991 Posts
Oh, 35%... well, if you double that and then round it up, you get to pre-war levels... | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6327 Posts
But vessel numbers alone cannot explain what is happening to energy supplies as cargo volumes and the routes used also matter, said Dalga Khatinoglu, an expert on Iran's energy and macroeconomics. "If we look only at crude oil, Middle Eastern exports across all routes, from the Gulf of Oman and the Strait of Hormuz to the Red Sea, have largely recovered to pre-war levels," he told DW. "In some weeks in September and October, they even exceeded those levels." Or this from www.wsj.com Persian Gulf oil exports have surpassed prewar levels, as an improvised shipping system under U.S. protection is helping tankers move oil through one of Iran’s fiercest waves of attacks in the Strait of Hormuz. Middle East oil flows, including shipments through Hormuz and alternative routes across the region, averaged more than 24 million barrels a day in the week through Oct. 18, surpassing prewar levels of 23.3 million, according to ship tracker Kpler. Preliminary figures show Hormuz oil flows, including offshore transfers in the Gulf of Oman, came to around 14 million barrels a day on average for the same period, or 82% of prewar levels. Ultimately what matters for the blockade is how much oil leaves not in what way it does. | ||
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Introvert
United States5101 Posts
On November 14 2026 01:24 RvB wrote: There's no bad faith. It's confusing tanker traffic with total exports of oil. That's nearly back at pre war levels. From the same DW article: Or this from www.wsj.com Ultimately what matters for the blockade is how much oil leaves not in what way it does. I hadn't checked in a few weeks but last time I did flow through the straight itself was very high though it has dropped some. But yes totals including work arounds is the remaining difference | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1959 Posts
The traffic was up to almost pre-war levels while there were ceasefires, since then and since Iranians started targeting ships again the traffic is down by more then 60 %. This is an argument on how the war is going, the reply to my "traffic is way down the strait is not at pre-war" was "it's almost there" which is absolutely not true, even if the oil exports are almost around those numbers if you count all the ME with increased production that simply measures something else, that could have been achieved with no war with just increasing production and shipments by other means, it's not a relevant number. On top of that, the war proponent here who is claiming that it's going well and it's worthwhile failed to address the other facts like Rubio admitting USA went in because of Israel (he claimed otherwise prompting my reply) and that their Missile stockpiles (the thing Rubio decided are the goal of war after) are largely replenished and getting produced at an impressive clip. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3553 Posts
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