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Given the opportunity to move the impeachment of Hegseth forward, some Democrats failed to do the thing they're there to do, vote.
Democratic lawmakers expressed outrage at nearly a dozen of their colleagues for missing a vote Tuesday evening to impeach the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, allowing Republicans to defeat the effort.
Eleven Democrats missed the key procedural vote on the impeachment effort, which failed by just seven votes. Some blamed traffic and conflicting events and others accused Speaker Mike Johnson of closing the vote early. Many of those not in the Capitol said they support the effort to impeach Hegseth.
“You should show up and do your job,” Abdul El-Sayed, the senator-elect of Michigan, said on CNN to the Democratic lawmakers Tuesday.
Richard Ojeda, the representative-elect of North Carolina, told CNN that the Democratic representatives “failed” by not voting.
“Shame on them for not showing up,” Ojeda said on Tuesday. “I mean, this is important … they had an opportunity to finally get rid of this buffoonery we had.”
The missing Democrats gave House Republicans the numbers to shelve the impeachment effort by voting 211 – 204 to refer eight articles of impeachment against Hegseth to a House committee.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/nov/11/democrats-hegseth-impeachment-vote
My bar for Democrats is already subterranean, but holy shit. You get a historic voting performance from your voters and you immediately reward them by failing to vote in their interests.
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Shameful display.
Blaming "conflicting events" is somewhat absurd, too. Your fucking job is to be there and vote. That is what you got elected for. What "conflicting event" could be more important? And shouldn't you schedule your events so they don't interfere with you doing your job?
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On November 13 2026 06:09 GreenHorizons wrote:Given the opportunity to move the impeachment Hegseth forward, some Democrats failed to do the thing they're there to do, vote. Show nested quote +Democratic lawmakers expressed outrage at nearly a dozen of their colleagues for missing a vote Tuesday evening to impeach the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, allowing Republicans to defeat the effort.
Eleven Democrats missed the key procedural vote on the impeachment effort, which failed by just seven votes. Some blamed traffic and conflicting events and others accused Speaker Mike Johnson of closing the vote early. Many of those not in the Capitol said they support the effort to impeach Hegseth.
“You should show up and do your job,” Abdul El-Sayed, the senator-elect of Michigan, said on CNN to the Democratic lawmakers Tuesday.
Richard Ojeda, the representative-elect of North Carolina, told CNN that the Democratic representatives “failed” by not voting.
“Shame on them for not showing up,” Ojeda said on Tuesday. “I mean, this is important … they had an opportunity to finally get rid of this buffoonery we had.”
The missing Democrats gave House Republicans the numbers to shelve the impeachment effort by voting 211 – 204 to refer eight articles of impeachment against Hegseth to a House committee. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/nov/11/democrats-hegseth-impeachment-voteMy bar for Democrats is already subterranean, but holy shit. You get a historic voting performance from your voters and you immediately reward them by failing to vote in their interests.
Many of those not in the Capitol said they support the effort to impeach Hegseth. Very funny.
Good opportunity for progs like El-Sayed to level criticism, since it was kind of the establishment/moderates that weren't there.
This incoming Congress will be so spicy.
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On November 13 2026 06:13 Simberto wrote:
Shameful display.
Blaming "conflicting events" is somewhat absurd, too. Your fucking job is to be there and vote. That is what you got elected for. What "conflicting event" could be more important? And shouldn't you schedule your events so they don't interfere with you doing your job?
The 4d chess justification (possibly excuse) is if they do it now then Trump can put through whoever he wants. If they wait until January, then the confirmations get way harder and Trump has to play ball to make something happen.
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Well, all I can say is that if my job is on the line soon and I wanted to make sure people understand that even if I'm not super charismatic and inspiring I can still do the "real" work of politics like whipping votes, failing to have 11 people show up for an important vote seems like a great display of confidence.
I mean, I get that some were just late due to traffic and Mike Johnson did his best to ratfuck the process to ensure it fails, but come on, Pelosi as the previous leader attending an event while congress is in session after a historical election is just bad politics, especially if she wants her pupil and her wing of the party to continue being in charge.
My favorite of the absent congress people is the future star of Republican party, Haily Stevens, her office did not respond for requests for comment so I kind of fell for a joke post how she was hanging out in the Republican party offices at the time.
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Y'all know that the whips of each party make sure that they'd never accidentally lose a vote from nonattendance, right? The Speaker would've pulled the vote for the impeachment if he knew Democrats would win the vote because some Republicans were missing.
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To quote a Bluesky thread on the subject:People are furious at Hakeem Jeffries and 11 absent Democrats over tonight's 211-204 Pete Hegseth vote, convinced Dems just blew a real shot to impeach him. Check the House Clerk roll calls, though: Hegseth was never getting impeached tonight unless more Republicans broke ranks.
Roll Call 317 was a procedural vote to bury Thomas Massie's resolution in Jim Jordan's Judiciary Committee. The GOP runs the House until Jan. 3. All 214 Dems plus Massie max out at 215; 217 other Republicans plus Kevin Kiley (who caucuses with them) have 218. Yes, 11 Dems missed the 6:02 PM vote. Four missed every Tuesday vote: Pelosi, Stevens, Frederica Wilson, and Lou Correa (recovering from a medical procedure in CA). The other 7 voted within 18 minutes. Melanie Stansbury said a traffic incident and police bus escort blocked members from entering.
"Wait, if those 7 delayed Dems made it on time, wouldn't 211-211 have killed the referral?"
Only if you forget Mike Johnson still holds the gavel. Seven Republicans missed that 6:02 PM vote too, and the next two roll calls prove 5 of them were arriving right behind the Dems. Eight minutes later on Roll Call 318 (6:10 PM), 4 of those missing Republicans (Fry, Letlow, Tiffany, Yakym) were on the floor voting with the GOP. By Roll Call 319 at 6:20 PM, a 5th (Van Orden) was too. If 211 trailed at 6:02 PM, Johnson just holds the vote open 20 minutes and wins 216-211. Even if all 214 Democrats had been on the floor with Massie (215), adding those 5 arriving Republicans to the 211 Yeas already on the board gave Johnson 216 votes by 6:20 PM. And if referral had failed, Rule IX triggers an hour of floor debate before any vote to table or impeach.
Be mad at members missing votes if you want, or wish Dems made Johnson hold the gavel open. Just stop pretending Jeffries blew a shot to impeach Hegseth in a GOP-run lame duck. Democrats take both chambers Jan. 3 with subpoena power, plus the votes to impeach Hegseth and force a Senate trial. bsky.app
Some Democrats were delayed, some Republicans were delayed. The vote was never happening while there was a majority of Democrats in the chamber, it would just have been delayed until the rest of the Republicans had arrived.
But that doesn't make the nice storyline for GH to once again go 'Democrats are the worst'
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I don't know man, I just don't think that this is a great first batch of news coming after the elections, it's a bad look however you swing it.
That's what I meant by important, I am under no illusion that the actual vote would go towards impeachment, I know the numbers, I'd wager that's what most people are mad about, not the straw man of "they are mad because they thought its actually going to work in a Republican congress".
Anyone who bothers to read past the first paragraph of any article about this finds this obvious, let's stop pretending people are mad about the wrong thing.
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I like that the impeachment vote went the way it did. The GOP set the tone for the next two years: Do whatever you want to win so long as you can legally get away with it. Impeach Hegseth in January (if he's still there) and then use every dirty trick in the book against the GOP, citing the November impeachment vote as the recent 'you opened this door; we just walked through it'.
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Are "most people" actually mad about this? Ragebait media desperately trying to drum up outage doesn't mean there is actual, widespread outrage. And really, I'd rather take the opportunity to educate people on how Congressional procedure works than entertain it.
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The same crew as usual is outraged. A few seem annoyed, until they hear the whole story. Once they have control of nothing happens I think it will turn. But having hegsmeth continue to fuck up until you can do real in depth investigations makes sense. It’s not like there is someone smart and capable on deck that is going to follow through with even the bipartisan wishes of congress in Ukraine, or solve Iran. I don’t see a big deal waiting.
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Can the House open proceedings to impeach Hegseth for the same thing twice? If not, it's probably best that they failed to try now or by the time a more favourable Congress is in, they couldn't do it.
That said, there's plenty of bad stuff Hegseth can do in 2 months. The faster he's gone, the better.
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Yes, Congress can hold multiple impeachments votes and trials for the same reason.
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I’d rather have hegsmeth for 2 months than Trumps picked replacement for 2 years. Every time people think Trump can’t pick worse, he defies odds.
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On November 13 2026 05:47 Billyboy wrote:
@intro it seems clear that the election talk has passed. Can you dive into how you think this war in Iran was “worth it” and what Trump and co need accomplish to “finish the job”?
I believe Rubio when he says that the Iranian plan was to make themselves untouchable so they could finish their nuke research. They wanted so many missiles and with such range that they could threaten anywhere in the middle east and much of europe. That can't be allowed to happen. And indeed some months ago we saw them fire off some missiles that had a longer range than anything we'd yet seem from them. It was causing some alarm.
As for finishing the job, I'd like to see how the blockade continues. It seems like conditions are continuing to deteriorate and now that there's at least some form of a land blockade it's going to get worse. The end goal would be to set their nuke program back by as much as possible and reduce their capabilities enough that Iran only needs the occasional lawn-mowing operation to undo any progress that has been made.
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