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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3231 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-24 16:41:18
1 hour ago
#119681
On September 24 2026 23:34 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2026 23:30 WombaT wrote:
On September 24 2026 23:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 24 2026 22:54 WombaT wrote:
On September 24 2026 22:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 24 2026 21:38 PoulsenB wrote:
There are certainly pararells between Trump amd Reagan, for example they both are ghoulish corporate stooges, and they both had their presidency marked by a huge debacle involving Iran.

The FTA was awesome for Canada. Reagan was great for Canada. In an spiritual sense Trump has been great for Canada as well. He is forcing Canadians to define themselves. Will duress aid in the identity crisis Canada has had since WW2 and especially after Pierre Elliot Trudeau's 16 year reign as PM ended in 1984.

By your rationale I’d be great for my partner if I started to punch her on the regular

bad analogy. What is happening today is more like you renaming your gfs cat and asking her to guard the house from bears and moose 1 out of 7 days a week. Currently, she guards the house zero days a week. You start asking for 1 day a week. However, as we've seen from my posts the 2 of you would still be sleeping together despite the bickering over enforcing territorial boundaries and economic issues.

An analogy to punching your GF ... that'd be more like the USA invading Southern Ontario.

Also,
Partner? When I was a teenager and in my early 20s I had a gf. Now, I have a wife. This 21st century "partner" term is cringey man.

Girlfriend feels insufficiently weighty


Lol. Gotta feed her better.

But yeah, partner is a completely normal term to use? JJR truly has some really weird takes.


"Partner" implies equality between genders and them as individuals, you can probably easily imagine why the "I'd vote for prime ministers that preyed on teenage girls again if I could" guy would find that objectionable.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2410 Posts
1 hour ago
#119682
On September 25 2026 01:09 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2026 00:34 Billyboy wrote:
On September 24 2026 23:23 KwarK wrote:
oblade desperately trying to convince people he cares about human trafficking.

It’s a hard road when you support so many people guilty of it and your favorite of all is the guy named most in the report he promised to release on day one and is still blocking. Or supporting them in primaries against republicans without that “baggage “.

On of the things that Trump got right is that republicans don’t actually care about it, they just want their opponents in jail for it. The crime itself is not their concern.

You think being against human trafficking means calling rich people you already don't like pedophiles. I'm just actually against human trafficking.
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2026 00:34 Billyboy wrote:
Also, oBlades take on the bond market is hilarious. Shows what only taking in pro Trump news does to a person.

I don't think you know what bonds are. You've posted "the bond market!" two or three times now. You picked it up as a magic word to recite, that's all.

No I think that rich people should be held accountable the same standards as poor people. And that public servants should be held to a higher standard. So totally different than yourself.

As far as bonds go, I’m not going to educate you. You are not going to listen or even critically think about it. You will just take Trumps word or his butt kissers word as gospel. But if you were to google, why people thought it was a big deal, and why the new fed did exactly what he was hired not to do, you figure it out. Well maybe not you because you would have to change your ideology to one that was based on reality and not how you feel. But the info is easily accessible.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7758 Posts
46 minutes ago
#119683
On September 24 2026 22:40 Jankisa wrote:
Being obsessed by Regan and bringing him up all the time, despite:

* out of control income inequality
* tripling of the national debt
* rise of Christian fundamentalist "silent minority" leading the attacks on all sorts of rights (very libertarian!)
* complete catastrophe that is the War on drugs
* breaking of the US media by removing the fairness doctrine
* Iran-contra scandal, selling arms to enemy to fund terrorist mass murderers
* my favorite, for all you fiscally conservative types, the Savings and Loan crisis

Why is it my favorite? Well, because your daddy Regan first fucked up by creating a shitty law, a law that broke a huge number of companies which he then used taxpayer money to bail out. The net loss after all asset sales was the final nominal cost of $124 billion to $132 billion funded purely by taxpayers.

When adjusted for inflation, the net economic destruction directly from the bailouts stands at roughly $300 billion to $390 billion.

If you extrapolate that up and imagine that money was not borrowed against the national debt, and assume about 5 % average interest over the 36 years, it comes down to about $700 B (on the lower end) smaller national debt.

This is the hero of libertarians and "best Republican president".

To paraphrase the old meme, if only these kids could read.

You forgot his absolutely evil response (or rather a lack thereof) to the AIDS crisis.

Legend has it that to this day, Reagan burns in hell, patiently waiting for heaven to trickle down to him.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6526 Posts
27 minutes ago
#119684
On September 25 2026 01:43 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2026 01:09 oBlade wrote:
On September 25 2026 00:34 Billyboy wrote:
On September 24 2026 23:23 KwarK wrote:
oblade desperately trying to convince people he cares about human trafficking.

It’s a hard road when you support so many people guilty of it and your favorite of all is the guy named most in the report he promised to release on day one and is still blocking. Or supporting them in primaries against republicans without that “baggage “.

On of the things that Trump got right is that republicans don’t actually care about it, they just want their opponents in jail for it. The crime itself is not their concern.

You think being against human trafficking means calling rich people you already don't like pedophiles. I'm just actually against human trafficking.
On September 25 2026 00:34 Billyboy wrote:
Also, oBlades take on the bond market is hilarious. Shows what only taking in pro Trump news does to a person.

I don't think you know what bonds are. You've posted "the bond market!" two or three times now. You picked it up as a magic word to recite, that's all.

No I think that rich people should be held accountable the same standards as poor people. And that public servants should be held to a higher standard. So totally different than yourself.

As far as bonds go, I’m not going to educate you. You are not going to listen or even critically think about it. You will just take Trumps word or his butt kissers word as gospel. But if you were to google, why people thought it was a big deal, and why the new fed did exactly what he was hired not to do, you figure it out. Well maybe not you because you would have to change your ideology to one that was based on reality and not how you feel. But the info is easily accessible.

We are not alone, Billyboy, there are open minded people here and they are looking forward to being awed by your expertise of how the bond market BTFOs Trump. It's news, 10 year just broke 5%, it's relevant, and you personally mentioned it multiple times. Don't keep secrets. The least you can do is explain to everybody.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2410 Posts
21 minutes ago
#119685
On September 25 2026 02:33 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2026 01:43 Billyboy wrote:
On September 25 2026 01:09 oBlade wrote:
On September 25 2026 00:34 Billyboy wrote:
On September 24 2026 23:23 KwarK wrote:
oblade desperately trying to convince people he cares about human trafficking.

It’s a hard road when you support so many people guilty of it and your favorite of all is the guy named most in the report he promised to release on day one and is still blocking. Or supporting them in primaries against republicans without that “baggage “.

On of the things that Trump got right is that republicans don’t actually care about it, they just want their opponents in jail for it. The crime itself is not their concern.

You think being against human trafficking means calling rich people you already don't like pedophiles. I'm just actually against human trafficking.
On September 25 2026 00:34 Billyboy wrote:
Also, oBlades take on the bond market is hilarious. Shows what only taking in pro Trump news does to a person.

I don't think you know what bonds are. You've posted "the bond market!" two or three times now. You picked it up as a magic word to recite, that's all.

No I think that rich people should be held accountable the same standards as poor people. And that public servants should be held to a higher standard. So totally different than yourself.

As far as bonds go, I’m not going to educate you. You are not going to listen or even critically think about it. You will just take Trumps word or his butt kissers word as gospel. But if you were to google, why people thought it was a big deal, and why the new fed did exactly what he was hired not to do, you figure it out. Well maybe not you because you would have to change your ideology to one that was based on reality and not how you feel. But the info is easily accessible.

We are not alone, Billyboy, there are open minded people here and they are looking forward to being awed by your expertise of how the bond market BTFOs Trump. It's news, 10 year just broke 5%, it's relevant, and you personally mentioned it multiple times. Don't keep secrets. The least you can do is explain to everybody.

Non sheeple, likely already know. Or can work Google and don’t think every piece of news that paints Trump as flawless are fake news.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/20/why-us-bond-market-turmoil-hitting-governments-worldwide
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1736 Posts
12 minutes ago
#119686
On September 25 2026 02:15 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2026 22:40 Jankisa wrote:
Being obsessed by Regan and bringing him up all the time, despite:

* out of control income inequality
* tripling of the national debt
* rise of Christian fundamentalist "silent minority" leading the attacks on all sorts of rights (very libertarian!)
* complete catastrophe that is the War on drugs
* breaking of the US media by removing the fairness doctrine
* Iran-contra scandal, selling arms to enemy to fund terrorist mass murderers
* my favorite, for all you fiscally conservative types, the Savings and Loan crisis

Why is it my favorite? Well, because your daddy Regan first fucked up by creating a shitty law, a law that broke a huge number of companies which he then used taxpayer money to bail out. The net loss after all asset sales was the final nominal cost of $124 billion to $132 billion funded purely by taxpayers.

When adjusted for inflation, the net economic destruction directly from the bailouts stands at roughly $300 billion to $390 billion.

If you extrapolate that up and imagine that money was not borrowed against the national debt, and assume about 5 % average interest over the 36 years, it comes down to about $700 B (on the lower end) smaller national debt.

This is the hero of libertarians and "best Republican president".

To paraphrase the old meme, if only these kids could read.

You forgot his absolutely evil response (or rather a lack thereof) to the AIDS crisis.

Legend has it that to this day, Reagan burns in hell, patiently waiting for heaven to trickle down to him.


Oh, absolutely, I was just trying to focus on specific things that have clear and hugely negative consequences that any "real" libertarian (which Jimmy claims to be) would agree are bad.

So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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