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Biff The Understudy
France8170 Posts
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oBlade
United States6395 Posts
On June 04 2026 14:10 KwarK wrote: So according to you nobody raped Giuffre. Into the no, I never said that box. Where you get this stuff is a mystery. On June 04 2026 14:10 KwarK wrote: All that stuff was settled before her untimely death. Or anyone else actually, else they’d have come forward like she did before she settled everything and then died. Giuffre's death by suicide from being a sexual abuse victim in 2025 probably did not send a message to stop other people from coming forward in the years 2000-2024 lest they share her fate. Due to how time works. I never said "nobody (else) was raped." As the old adage says, somebody is doing the raping. Post the evidence YOU HAVE of who you think was raped by whom and why. Especially bonus points for cases that the all-important FILES revealed for the first time. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
After how many rapes do you change your opinion on your prefered political candidates? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18413 Posts
I'm sure the known rapist (Trump) was absolutely not involved at all in any way with his close friend's sex parties! And the true pedos are all (1) democrats or (2) princes of the UK. Trump (known rapist) would never just grab any girl by the pussy! He's all about consent! | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
On June 04 2026 13:41 oBlade wrote: "I don't need evidence because Rudy Giuliani didn't have any." Yes bad information changes people's votes. That's why people in politics try to find and release bad information. Your entire shtick is flooding the zone with this "child rapist" stuff, by now you should have found at least a modicum of evidence for it. Against anyone. The files are public and indexed and searchable. They are poorly redacted, according to you, making guilt easily recognizable. Show SOMETHING. I asked for charges, then for evidence. You read as far as "convictions" somehow. Okay. Second time's the charm. Giuffre* had specific suits that were settled before the release of "muh files." (None of which accusations targeted Trump.) If someone caused her death to block those accusations as you now insinuate, they were quite late. That someone couldn't have been Epstein because he was already gone. Perhaps someone even higher than Epstein? Mossad? CIA? In fact, perhaps it's happened so often that literally every rape victim was murdered to cover things up (by the guy who dreamed of 20 pregnant women alive in his eugenics farm). That would leave no evidence. Other than the conspicuous trail of dead bodies. Perhaps you can succeed where LightSpectra failed: The evidence you learned from the files please. I reccommend inputting puritan. Or was it purist. On June 04 2026 22:18 Biff The Understudy wrote: I don’t know why you guys are even asking those questions to oblade. If you voted three times for a guy that depraved and that awful and keep supporting him to that day, you either don’t have any moral standards at all or are a terrible a human being yourself. I admire your perseverance, but at some point maybe you can just accept that you are talking to a shitty person, that is happy to vote for a monster, doesn’t care that he raped young women, and doesn’t mind the depravity if he doesn’t actually admires it. Of course it’s terrible news for our democracies, but we might have reached a point where there is nothing to speak about anymore with that other side. I think they have come to the conclusion that we were enemies to be destroyed long ago. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8170 Posts
On June 04 2026 20:37 Velr wrote: For me personally the one rape that he was allready found guilty for is enough. After how many rapes do you change your opinion on your prefered political candidates? I don’t know why you guys are even asking those questions to oblade. If you voted three times for a guy that depraved and that awful and keep supporting him to that day, you either don’t have any moral standards at all or are a terrible a human being yourself. I admire your perseverance, but at some point maybe you can just accept that you are talking to a shitty person, that is happy to vote for a monster, doesn’t care that he raped young women, and doesn’t mind the depravity if he doesn’t actually admires it. Of course it’s terrible news for our democracies, but we might have reached a point where there is nothing to speak about anymore with that other side. I think they have come to the conclusion that we were enemies to be destroyed long ago. | ||
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
On June 04 2026 22:18 Biff The Understudy wrote: I don’t know why you guys are even asking those questions to oblade. If you voted three times for a guy that depraved and that awful and keep supporting him to that day, you either don’t have any moral standards at all or are a terrible a human being yourself. I admire your perseverance, but at some point maybe you can just accept that you are talking to a shitty person, that is happy to vote for a monster, doesn’t care that he raped young women, and doesn’t mind the depravity if he doesn’t actually admires it. Of course it’s terrible news for our democracies, but we might have reached a point where there is nothing to speak about anymore with that other side. I think they have come to the conclusion that we were enemies to be destroyed long ago. To be fair, the fact that folks like you can see that others are still interested in confronting the depraved nonsense has some value. These conversations have always been more about the audience than the participants. | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
On June 04 2026 22:23 farvacola wrote: To be fair, the fact that folks like you can see that others are still interested in confronting the depraved nonsense has some value. These conversations have always been more about the audience than the participants. There's risks to confronting it. Said depraved nonsense is what very rich or powerful people fed on. I'd rather mind my own business as long as they don't start molesting you, directly or indirectly. I mean, even the cops working that stuff are under tons of pressure, unless they participate in it because it's more convenient or relieves them of danger. The 'solution' was evidently problemmaxing. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3047 Posts
On June 04 2026 13:41 oBlade wrote: "I don't need evidence because Rudy Giuliani didn't have any." Yes bad information changes people's votes. That's why people in politics try to find and release bad information. Your entire shtick is flooding the zone with this "child rapist" stuff, by now you should have found at least a modicum of evidence for it. Against anyone. The files are public and indexed and searchable. They are poorly redacted, according to you, making guilt easily recognizable. Show SOMETHING. It must really drive you mad that you genuinely believe Trump would've won the 2020 election if only his most trusted confidant could stop jacking off to child porn he found on Hunter Biden's laptop in order to actually turn it over to the police, instead of sharing it with Steve Bannon and whoever else first. | ||
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Billyboy
2153 Posts
On June 04 2026 22:23 farvacola wrote: To be fair, the fact that folks like you can see that others are still interested in confronting the depraved nonsense has some value. These conversations have always been more about the audience than the participants. Some value for the participant is that they might not ever get to talk to someone with these views in their real life, or in my case be around them but not be able to engage as directly as I’d like because of work and community. The tough part with oBlade is he is much more of debate lord than a MAGA guy so you only get his interpretation of their position rather than his P position. | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
On June 04 2026 22:53 LightSpectra wrote: It must really drive you mad that you genuinely believe Trump would've won the 2020 election if only his most trusted confidant could stop jacking off to child porn he found on Hunter Biden's laptop in order to actually turn it over to the police, instead of sharing it with Steve Bannon and whoever else first. What difference does the police make if you can only vote for a part of the problem either way. They'd probably still get NDAd because it was part of intelligence and compromats. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17754 Posts
the good-cop//bad-cop routine Trump and Netanyahu are playing would be hilarious if it didn't involve killing people. Both guys know exactly what is going on ... Trump and Netanyahu both approve of it and they pretend they're disagreeing. LOL. I love how FOX covers this like an NFL game. damn. As long as the stock market holds out Trump will keep on going with military activity in the middle east. On that note, I got another "i told you so" from my wife this week as our 401Ks continue to soar. I've wanted out of the stock market twice in last 3 years. she said we should stay in. we doubled our precious metals holdings though. On June 04 2026 21:48 Acrofales wrote: Trump raped E. Jean Carroll. He was also good friends with someone who committed suicide when it was completely clear that he was going to be convicted of a bunch of sex-traffic related charges (including minors), and who ran a broad network of influence peddling, apparently in exchange for sexual favors. I'm sure the known rapist (Trump) was absolutely not involved at all in any way with his close friend's sex parties! And the true pedos are all (1) democrats or (2) princes of the UK. Trump (known rapist) would never just grab any girl by the pussy! He's all about consent! meh, Canada's best PM ever was banging an 18 year old when he was 48. he was prolly banging her when she was 17 as well but the liberal canadian media covered it up. At some undetermined point he was also beating her. I would've voted for him every single time. At that time he was Canada's best option. I'd still vote for Trump now because he is a better option than Kamala. And, I'm not talking about the Ugandan Headhunter ... I'm talking about Kamala Harris. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46282 Posts
On June 04 2026 22:51 Vivax wrote: There's risks to confronting it. Said depraved nonsense is what very rich or powerful people fed on. I'd rather mind my own business as long as they don't start molesting you, directly or indirectly. I mean, even the cops working that stuff are under tons of pressure, unless they participate in it because it's more convenient or relieves them of danger. The 'solution' was evidently problemmaxing. There are definitely risks, but at least someone can decide to disengage from a conversation if they realize their interlocutor isn't arguing in good faith, or is refusing to acknowledge some fundamental realities, or if they keep changing the subject, or whatever else a person considers to be inappropriate / over a reasonable threshold. And then they can always decide whether it's a good idea to try again with that same person another time, perhaps on a different subject. I like to start with the assumption that it's worth attempting a conversation with most people about most topics, and then take note of exceptions when I come across them, as opposed to starting with the assumption that most conversations, peoples, and topics aren't worth it. | ||
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
On June 04 2026 22:51 Vivax wrote: There's risks to confronting it. Said depraved nonsense is what very rich or powerful people fed on. I'd rather mind my own business as long as they don't start molesting you, directly or indirectly. I mean, even the cops working that stuff are under tons of pressure, unless they participate in it because it's more convenient or relieves them of danger. The 'solution' was evidently problemmaxing. I get that and wouldn’t fault you for that approach. If everyone did that, though, we’d get mass bystander effect and that’s great for the baddies. It’s also incongruous with any sort of politics that relies on at least some participation from citizens as well as any sort of international relations that depends on some sort of engagement across borders. Some if not many Americans treasure the input of others from across the globe. | ||
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Billyboy
2153 Posts
On June 04 2026 23:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote: "you'd be in jail if it weren't for me! ! !", Trump to Netanyahu. ... Shakespeare couldn't write it any better. the good-cop//bad-cop routine Trump and Netanyahu are playing would be hilarious if it didn't involve killing people. Both guys know exactly what is going on ... Trump and Netanyahu both approve of it and they pretend they're disagreeing. LOL. I love how FOX covers this like an NFL game. damn. As long as the stock market holds out Trump will keep on going with military activity in the middle east. On that note, I got another "i told you so" from my wife this week as our 401Ks continue to soar. I've wanted out of the stock market twice in last 3 years. she said we should stay in. we doubled our precious metals holdings though. meh, Canada's best PM ever was banging an 18 year old when he was 48. he was prolly banging her when she was 17 as well but the liberal canadian media covered it up. At some undetermined point he was also beating her. I would've voted for him every single time. At that time he was Canada's best option. I'd still vote for Trump now because he is a better option than Kamala. And, I'm not talking about the Ugandan Headhunter ... I'm talking about Kamala Harris. You are an awful human. Not sure why you keep reminding everyone of this fact. And he’s your favourite, not best, it’s subjective not objective. Sometimes I feel sorry for you, but then you post a banger like this and it reminds me that you are just a horrible person. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17754 Posts
On June 04 2026 23:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: There are definitely risks, but at least someone can decide to disengage from a conversation if they realize their interlocutor isn't arguing in good faith, or is refusing to acknowledge some fundamental realities, or if they keep changing the subject, or whatever else a person considers to be inappropriate / over a reasonable threshold. And then they can always decide whether it's a good idea to try again with that same person another time, perhaps on a different subject. I like to start with the assumption that it's worth attempting a conversation with most people about most topics, and then take note of exceptions when I come across them, as opposed to starting with the assumption that most conversations, peoples, and topics aren't worth it. In my professional life, I stay away from guys who cheat on their wives entirely. As Warren Buffett said ... "you can't make a good deal with a bad person". I'm surprised how many guys just let it go like its nothing and continue to deal with adulterers on any meaningful level. It is the most sacred promise you will make in your lifetime. The best professional deals I've ever made have been with dedicated family men. In conclusion, I pity the other leaders of the G7 and the nations involved in the current military conflict... because they won't be able to make a good deal with Trump. On June 04 2026 23:26 Billyboy wrote: You are an awful human. Not sure why you keep reminding everyone of this fact. And he’s your favourite, not best, it’s subjective not objective. Sometimes I feel sorry for you, but then you post a banger like this and it reminds me that you are just a horrible person. nah, i am realistic about options. PET was the best option as PM for 16 years. There would be no Justin if PET didn't get it on with Maggie. If you want to enter the Canadian politics thread and explain how Joe Clark and the PCs were better than PET/Chretien and the Liberals I'll be happy to debate it. feel sorry for me? i worked yesterday for about 5 hours... headed to the Barcade to play some pinball and air hockey ...and then laid in the grass on a blanket watching semi-pro baseball with my wife. I am living the dream. Anyhow, I continue to maintain the Trump is a better option than Kamala. I wish we had a better option than Trump. The guy is terrible. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46282 Posts
On June 04 2026 23:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: In my professional life, I stay away from guys who cheat on their wives entirely. As Warren Buffett said ... "you can't make a good deal with a bad person". I'm surprised how many guys just let it go like its nothing and continue to deal with adulterers on any meaningful level. It is the most sacred promise you will make in your lifetime. The best professional deals I've ever made have been with dedicated family men. In conclusion, I pity the other leaders of the G7 and the nations involved in the current military conflict... because they won't be able to make a good deal with Trump. Okay. Yeah I also think that cheating on one's spouse is terrible. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17754 Posts
On June 04 2026 23:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Okay. Yeah I also think that cheating on one's spouse is terrible. its not my job to pass judgment on any one's ultimate morality. its their choice. i just notice that dealing with those guys is ultra risky. that said , I just love the Ayn Rand line : "every day is judgement day.. and your own ego is the judge" BTW, you probably know i was born and raised in Canada. Let me tell you .. in interviews with US immigration officials and the US Navy I noticed these guys just gobble up all this Ayn Rand stuff.  | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3047 Posts
On June 04 2026 23:26 Billyboy wrote: You are an awful human. Not sure why you keep reminding everyone of this fact. And he’s your favourite, not best, it’s subjective not objective. Sometimes I feel sorry for you, but then you post a banger like this and it reminds me that you are just a horrible person. Practically tripping over himself to brag about supporting statutory rape. Mods, is this not a bannable offense for real? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17754 Posts
On June 04 2026 23:41 LightSpectra wrote: Practically tripping over himself to brag about supporting statutory rape. Mods, is this not a bannable offense for real? no, i do not even support adultery. Trump is a terrible person and still a better option than Kamala. Had there been a better option on the ballet i would've taken it. If Joe Clark were a better option than Pierre Trudeau i would've voted for him. However, a 48 year old guy who was banging an 18 year old was Canada's best option. and he won something like 5 times. meh. I'd say you lack historical perspective and you are a prisoner of the moment. There have been many horrible people leading many powerful nations throughout world history. Trump ain't anything special. And, there is nothing special going on in 2026. I have to give Billyboy some credit though: at least he spelled favourite correctly. | ||
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