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And before the Minnesota video and to fill in oBlade on Shirley's work in Ukraine: He misled his viewers by claiming during his trip he went to eastern Ukraine, implying he was on the ground and close-ish to the front lines. Which, after all, his reputation is as oBlade put:
And he always goes right to where current event news is coming from. Think: Hurricane in North Carolina, in a couple days he's there streaming from it.
Instead he stayed in Kyiv, scoped out some luxury cars and mugged in front of the camera with the text:
POV: your [sic] in Ukraine and you realize where your taxes are going
With the description text saying
175 BILLION dollars goes a long way... This is the capital of Ukraine
So here we have Shirley, furthering the lies spread in both MAGA and Russian propaganda that the US' support was cash that largely disappeared through Ukrainian corruption.
When confronted, it turns out he never went further east than Kyiv and he dishonestly walked back his claim by saying it was 'satire'... but couldn't explain in what way it was satire, and then in the course of conversation looped back to effectively saying it was true that the US sent $175B in cash and that corrupt Ukraine made it disappear. So it wasn't satire.
But then he fell back to claiming it was satire again.
Between this and the daycare 'reporting', I'm seeing something more than just youthful mistakes. If you've not only become a conduit for misinformation but are creating new lies whether through stupidity or ideological capture, it's just a mistake. No participation trophies for his youth. Maybe he put out good interviews in the past and got audience captured and is now hustling for those clicks. But I see someone who has likely fallen for lies and is spreading lies and therefore his critical thinking and content is compromised. But he also is dishonest and possibly not very intelligent based on some of his reasoning... unless he doesn't actually believe what he is saying on camera, in which case more dishonesty.
edit. Actually, I'm walking back the 'maybe he was okay before.' This clown was paying migrants to hold up signs in front of the White House supporting Biden. When you stop reporting the news and instead create the news, you are a militant propagandist and you know what you are doing. That's only 'interesting' insofar as following along with Roger Stone's dirty tricks to get Nixon re-elected. That's what Nick is, one of Roger's rats.
JAQing off intentional propagandist or a moron unintentionally spreading propaganda because he bought into the lie? Or maybe both, depending on the occasion.
“The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes." "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."
JD Vance. Vice President of the United States of America.
Looks like Taiwan is fucked and Trump is selling them out to China. Wants TMC to move their factories to the US. Will never happen. If they are smart and they can do it on the down low they get nukes now. Otherwise they already know how to speak Chinese I guess.
I imagine a future crisis is a chip crisis. I don't want to say the next because it's several years along and Trump will for sure fuck up something else before that.
China isn't stupid enough to make it 3 for 3 for super powers that start needless wars that humiliate them on a global stage.
you thought the strait blockade was bad for the economy or that the AI bubble is making computer parts expensive, watch what happens as 5 minutes after the shooting starts Taiwan blows up all its chip factories.
Remember just a couple of months ago, when everyone needed to realize that Russia wasn’t a threat and China was what the world needed to be worried about.
Trump is by far the most spineless US president and it’s not close.
On May 17 2026 02:00 Falling wrote: And before the Minnesota video and to fill in oBlade on Shirley's work in Ukraine: He misled his viewers by claiming during his trip he went to eastern Ukraine, implying he was on the ground and close-ish to the front lines. Which, after all, his reputation is as oBlade put:
And he always goes right to where current event news is coming from. Think: Hurricane in North Carolina, in a couple days he's there streaming from it.
Instead he stayed in Kyiv, scoped out some luxury cars and mugged in front of the camera with the text:
175 BILLION dollars goes a long way... This is the capital of Ukraine
So here we have Shirley, furthering the lies spread in both MAGA and Russian propaganda that the US' support was cash that largely disappeared through Ukrainian corruption.
When confronted, it turns out he never went further east than Kyiv and he dishonestly walked back his claim by saying it was 'satire'... but couldn't explain in what way it was satire, and then in the course of conversation looped back to effectively saying it was true that the US sent $175B in cash and that corrupt Ukraine made it disappear. So it wasn't satire.
But then he fell back to claiming it was satire again.
Between this and the daycare 'reporting', I'm seeing something more than just youthful mistakes. If you've not only become a conduit for misinformation but are creating new lies whether through stupidity or ideological capture, it's just a mistake. No participation trophies for his youth. Maybe he put out good interviews in the past and got audience captured and is now hustling for those clicks. But I see someone who has likely fallen for lies and is spreading lies and therefore his critical thinking and content is compromised. But he also is dishonest and possibly not very intelligent based on some of his reasoning... unless he doesn't actually believe what he is saying on camera, in which case more dishonesty.
edit. Actually, I'm walking back the 'maybe he was okay before.' This clown was paying migrants to hold up signs in front of the White House supporting Biden. When you stop reporting the news and instead create the news, you are a militant propagandist and you know what you are doing. That's only 'interesting' insofar as following along with Roger Stone's dirty tricks to get Nixon re-elected. That's what Nick is, one of Roger's rats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2L90-fpDjM JAQing off intentional propagandist or a moron unintentionally spreading propaganda because he bought into the lie? Or maybe both, depending on the occasion.
“The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes." "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."
JD Vance. Vice President of the United States of America.
The Kyiv thing is stupid and crude. I did see that story soon after the daycare reporting. It reflects badly on Shirley as a reporter. He acted like a provocative influencer seeking clicks above story. The narrative he tried to sell is so idiotic.
The daycares in Minnesota story appears to be true, but his own conduct is more of provocateur than reporter. He barges into a couple places asking questions with his cameraman. Nobody operating a business is going to be polite and informative in that situation. So the public lucks out that such a guy did bring real fraud to public notice, but his conduct means that his reputation remains public partisan goofball. I would liken him to obviously partisan protesters that yell at police, but their cameras happen to catch police misconduct so their videos rise to national attention.
He's still young so he has a chance, and a very remote chance considering today's political times, to reform into an actual independent journalist. My instinct is that he'll continue to operate in the politically partisan mold and not improve to something better.
On May 17 2026 03:58 Billyboy wrote: Remember just a couple of months ago, when everyone needed to realize that Russia wasn’t a threat and China was what the world needed to be worried about.
Trump is by far the most spineless US president and it’s not close.
It's not spinelessness. Dude just hates America and is intentionally dismantling it out of revenge for all the indictments and times he was publicly booed.
On May 17 2026 03:58 Billyboy wrote: Remember just a couple of months ago, when everyone needed to realize that Russia wasn’t a threat and China was what the world needed to be worried about.
Trump is by far the most spineless US president and it’s not close.
It's not spinelessness. Dude just hates America and is intentionally dismantling it out of revenge for all the indictments and times he was publicly booed.
No, he became Kaiser in 2019 and has been redistributing from the population to the loyalists with the intention of paving the way for a dictatorship-like government form.
On May 17 2026 03:58 Billyboy wrote: Remember just a couple of months ago, when everyone needed to realize that Russia wasn’t a threat and China was what the world needed to be worried about.
Trump is by far the most spineless US president and it’s not close.
It's not spinelessness. Dude just hates America and is intentionally dismantling it out of revenge for all the indictments and times he was publicly booed.
Way to much credit, he's no evil mastermind. Just a stupid, insecure selfish narcissist. one of the weakest public figures of all time. And dumb as shit.
On May 17 2026 04:49 LightSpectra wrote: I didn't say there was a masterplan. He just picks whatever's bad for America in the long-term whenever the opportunity presents itself.
That is how it works out, because the people bribing him and fluffing his ego want it. But it does not matter to him in the slightest, he cares about no one but him. How it impacts America doesn't even factor into the equation.
On May 17 2026 02:00 Falling wrote: And before the Minnesota video and to fill in oBlade on Shirley's work in Ukraine: He misled his viewers by claiming during his trip he went to eastern Ukraine, implying he was on the ground and close-ish to the front lines. Which, after all, his reputation is as oBlade put:
And he always goes right to where current event news is coming from. Think: Hurricane in North Carolina, in a couple days he's there streaming from it.
Instead he stayed in Kyiv, scoped out some luxury cars and mugged in front of the camera with the text:
POV: your [sic] in Ukraine and you realize where your taxes are going
With the description text saying
175 BILLION dollars goes a long way... This is the capital of Ukraine
So here we have Shirley, furthering the lies spread in both MAGA and Russian propaganda that the US' support was cash that largely disappeared through Ukrainian corruption.
When confronted, it turns out he never went further east than Kyiv and he dishonestly walked back his claim by saying it was 'satire'... but couldn't explain in what way it was satire, and then in the course of conversation looped back to effectively saying it was true that the US sent $175B in cash and that corrupt Ukraine made it disappear. So it wasn't satire.
But then he fell back to claiming it was satire again.
Between this and the daycare 'reporting', I'm seeing something more than just youthful mistakes. If you've not only become a conduit for misinformation but are creating new lies whether through stupidity or ideological capture, it's just a mistake. No participation trophies for his youth. Maybe he put out good interviews in the past and got audience captured and is now hustling for those clicks. But I see someone who has likely fallen for lies and is spreading lies and therefore his critical thinking and content is compromised. But he also is dishonest and possibly not very intelligent based on some of his reasoning... unless he doesn't actually believe what he is saying on camera, in which case more dishonesty.
edit. Actually, I'm walking back the 'maybe he was okay before.' This clown was paying migrants to hold up signs in front of the White House supporting Biden. When you stop reporting the news and instead create the news, you are a militant propagandist and you know what you are doing. That's only 'interesting' insofar as following along with Roger Stone's dirty tricks to get Nixon re-elected. That's what Nick is, one of Roger's rats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2L90-fpDjM JAQing off intentional propagandist or a moron unintentionally spreading propaganda because he bought into the lie? Or maybe both, depending on the occasion.
“The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes." "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."
JD Vance. Vice President of the United States of America.
The Kyiv thing is stupid and crude. I did see that story soon after the daycare reporting. It reflects badly on Shirley as a reporter. He acted like a provocative influencer seeking clicks above story. The narrative he tried to sell is so idiotic.
The daycares in Minnesota story appears to be true, but his own conduct is more of provocateur than reporter. He barges into a couple places asking questions with his cameraman. Nobody operating a business is going to be polite and informative in that situation. So the public lucks out that such a guy did bring real fraud to public notice, but his conduct means that his reputation remains public partisan goofball. I would liken him to obviously partisan protesters that yell at police, but their cameras happen to catch police misconduct so their videos rise to national attention.
He's still young so he has a chance, and a very remote chance considering today's political times, to reform into an actual independent journalist. My instinct is that he'll continue to operate in the politically partisan mold and not improve to something better.
he needlessly provoked and lied, then went on to do another thing where he blatantly lied, but maybe you should give him a chance.
Why?
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
On May 17 2026 04:49 LightSpectra wrote: I didn't say there was a masterplan. He just picks whatever's bad for America in the long-term whenever the opportunity presents itself.
Bad for everyone. You're not even safe from the US machinations while in some Austrian village. You think there are no sympathizers around here that get recruited ? Lmao.
Can not go into a more concrete example of that on here. The party that touts security is an expert at hollowing it out, apparently. Unless you lick their boots.
On May 17 2026 04:49 LightSpectra wrote: I didn't say there was a masterplan. He just picks whatever's bad for America in the long-term whenever the opportunity presents itself.
Bad for everyone. You're not even safe from the US machinations while in some Austrian village. You think there are no sympathizers around here that get recruited ? Lmao.
Can not go into a more concrete example of that on here. The party that touts security is an expert at hollowing it out, apparently. Unless you lick their boots.
Because they have no principles.
They don't tout security because they care about it, its just a convenient excuse for control.
EPT
