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Northern Ireland23313 Posts
On December 11 2024 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
This is a forum and speculation is fun, I don't really see a problem, he really doesnt seem as unhinged as like, an anti-vaxxer or something, the situation is odd, someone super educated who executed a pretty clean and well planned out looking hit on someone powerful being found with a metric shit ton of extremely incriminating stuff that by all rights should have been easy to dispose of is a weird situation, its not like hes some Floridian crackhead or something.
Maybe he wanted to get caught so he could get his message out there in the court room, maybe he hadn't put any meaningful forethought into his plan beyond the first day escaping the hit, maybe he was planning to travel around the country to avoid capture and just hadn't disposed of anything yet.
I don't really see any reason to give two shits about how right wingers in this thread might be treated in a similar hypothetical situation, I mostly don't respect right wing beliefs on a fundamental level, but right wing conspiracies are also typically weird and more insane (ring of satanic pedophiles in a pizza place's basement) than speculating on the situation around why such a seemingly intelligent person would get caught with a baffling amount of incriminating shit given he seemed to have damn near evaded capture.
His gun fucking jammed in the carrying out of this clean and professional standard hit.
I don’t necessarily resent all speculation, but it should be couched in some kind of framework of known factors. Otherwise one is just pissing ‘I reckon’ into the void.
And one is no better than Pizzagaters at that point. It’s just inventing a narrative to dovetail with one’s own.
And if the left are just happy to piss out their own variant of Pizzagate narratives, they can’t really claim any kind of superiority in being skeptical but considered consumers of information
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Northern Ireland23313 Posts
On December 11 2024 08:42 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2024 08:16 WombaT wrote:On December 11 2024 08:13 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 06:36 BlackJack wrote:On December 11 2024 05:47 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 05:44 Billyboy wrote:On December 11 2024 05:37 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 04:08 Billyboy wrote:
Wouldn't a super rich good looking guy who graduated from a fancy prep school as valedictorian and then graduated from an Ivy league university be the exact opposite of who you would pick to be a patsy?
Alternatively, Luigi's background makes it very easy for him to emerge mostly unscathed if it turns out he's not the shooter. Plenty of family wealth and resources to defend himself if it turns out the only evidence is the evidence he had on him. All of Luigi's background and recent struggles make him an ideal person to decide "fuck it, what a golden opportunity to help this guy out". Some components of this story appear so meticulously planned you could argue Luigi as a red herring is somewhat reasonable. If we imagine a situation where a month from now Luigi is finally found to be the wrong guy, it will mean the entire effort to find the real shooter was abandoned early and all hopes of ever finding him are gone. To reach ever further, rich privvy types like Luigi always fantasize about throwing it all away and risking it all on a bold vision. All while lacking the confidence and courage to actually do it. You could argue serving as a red herring would be the ideal situation for both of them. One can argue anything, does not make it remotely likely. Also true. For me, there is no explanation for any of this that doesn't have massive holes. So I am mostly agnostic. People explaining away stuff as a mental breakdown when he was apparently meticulous and calculated days before feels forced and working out the calculations backwards. The massive holes primarily being that his eyebrows look different in 2 grainy photos and that there is … too much… evidence pointing to him? Not really trying to argue it since it feels like it’s kind of a benign question to argue anyway. Low info situation right now and not really anything at stake whether it’s him or not. So I’m not really interested in trying to convince you or list out each detail that seems odd. I don’t mean this in a “leave me alone” way, just specifying it wasn’t my intention to convince anyone. More so just sharing my thoughts and seeing what info others have But you simultaneously seem to want to hide behind it being a low info situation, while postulating on what you think at various junctures whenever suits. I think speculation has a place in any situation. Its all a matter of how much confidence or certainty people attach to it. I am attaching almost none. I was just being clear I am not saying anyone else is wrong because I think saying someone is wrong requires more confidence than speculation. Just kinda shootin the shit and discussing. Not everything needs to be an argument and sometimes we can freely discuss conflicting theories without it being combative
Well yeah you’re just ‘shooting the shit’ and discussing things except you completely dodged my counter points to your initial postulations, and went on to repeat the same ones multiple times.
Call me crazy but that’s the behaviour of someone who has some kind of investment into what they’re ’just asking questions’ on.
If say, Joe Rogan was doing this on some subject other than this one, that you didn’t like, you’d be on him like flies on shit for being irresponsible, conspiratorial etc.
Come the fuck on guys, have some standards.
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On December 11 2024 09:05 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2024 08:42 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 08:16 WombaT wrote:On December 11 2024 08:13 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 06:36 BlackJack wrote:On December 11 2024 05:47 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 05:44 Billyboy wrote:On December 11 2024 05:37 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 04:08 Billyboy wrote:
Wouldn't a super rich good looking guy who graduated from a fancy prep school as valedictorian and then graduated from an Ivy league university be the exact opposite of who you would pick to be a patsy?
Alternatively, Luigi's background makes it very easy for him to emerge mostly unscathed if it turns out he's not the shooter. Plenty of family wealth and resources to defend himself if it turns out the only evidence is the evidence he had on him. All of Luigi's background and recent struggles make him an ideal person to decide "fuck it, what a golden opportunity to help this guy out". Some components of this story appear so meticulously planned you could argue Luigi as a red herring is somewhat reasonable. If we imagine a situation where a month from now Luigi is finally found to be the wrong guy, it will mean the entire effort to find the real shooter was abandoned early and all hopes of ever finding him are gone. To reach ever further, rich privvy types like Luigi always fantasize about throwing it all away and risking it all on a bold vision. All while lacking the confidence and courage to actually do it. You could argue serving as a red herring would be the ideal situation for both of them. One can argue anything, does not make it remotely likely. Also true. For me, there is no explanation for any of this that doesn't have massive holes. So I am mostly agnostic. People explaining away stuff as a mental breakdown when he was apparently meticulous and calculated days before feels forced and working out the calculations backwards. The massive holes primarily being that his eyebrows look different in 2 grainy photos and that there is … too much… evidence pointing to him? Not really trying to argue it since it feels like it’s kind of a benign question to argue anyway. Low info situation right now and not really anything at stake whether it’s him or not. So I’m not really interested in trying to convince you or list out each detail that seems odd. I don’t mean this in a “leave me alone” way, just specifying it wasn’t my intention to convince anyone. More so just sharing my thoughts and seeing what info others have But you simultaneously seem to want to hide behind it being a low info situation, while postulating on what you think at various junctures whenever suits. I think speculation has a place in any situation. Its all a matter of how much confidence or certainty people attach to it. I am attaching almost none. I was just being clear I am not saying anyone else is wrong because I think saying someone is wrong requires more confidence than speculation. Just kinda shootin the shit and discussing. Not everything needs to be an argument and sometimes we can freely discuss conflicting theories without it being combative Well yeah you’re just ‘shooting the shit’ and discussing things except you completely dodged my counter points to your initial postulations, and went on to repeat the same ones multiple times. Call me crazy but that’s the behaviour of someone who has some kind of investment into what they’re ’just asking questions’ on. If say, Joe Rogan was doing this on some subject other than this one, that you didn’t like, you’d be on him like flies on shit for being irresponsible, conspiratorial etc. Come the fuck on guys, have some standards.
I wasn't trying to do some kinda bad faith just asking questions thing. My feeling from discussing this with others elsewhere was that a lot of people felt like the situation was still recent enough to where its within reason to speculate within the fringe so long as its not like I'm dismissing other ideas or arguing my speculation must be accurate. I won't pretend I haven't communicated poorly in the past, so my apologies if that didn't come through.
Either way, just to be clear, i was not intending to push back against other narratives or indicate i have a more valid perspective. And now that we have what appears to be a real manifesto, I think the odds are increasingly likely he's the real shooter and he wanted to be caught when he was.
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United States41652 Posts
On December 11 2024 09:05 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2024 08:42 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 08:16 WombaT wrote:On December 11 2024 08:13 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 06:36 BlackJack wrote:On December 11 2024 05:47 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 05:44 Billyboy wrote:On December 11 2024 05:37 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 04:08 Billyboy wrote:
Wouldn't a super rich good looking guy who graduated from a fancy prep school as valedictorian and then graduated from an Ivy league university be the exact opposite of who you would pick to be a patsy?
Alternatively, Luigi's background makes it very easy for him to emerge mostly unscathed if it turns out he's not the shooter. Plenty of family wealth and resources to defend himself if it turns out the only evidence is the evidence he had on him. All of Luigi's background and recent struggles make him an ideal person to decide "fuck it, what a golden opportunity to help this guy out". Some components of this story appear so meticulously planned you could argue Luigi as a red herring is somewhat reasonable. If we imagine a situation where a month from now Luigi is finally found to be the wrong guy, it will mean the entire effort to find the real shooter was abandoned early and all hopes of ever finding him are gone. To reach ever further, rich privvy types like Luigi always fantasize about throwing it all away and risking it all on a bold vision. All while lacking the confidence and courage to actually do it. You could argue serving as a red herring would be the ideal situation for both of them. One can argue anything, does not make it remotely likely. Also true. For me, there is no explanation for any of this that doesn't have massive holes. So I am mostly agnostic. People explaining away stuff as a mental breakdown when he was apparently meticulous and calculated days before feels forced and working out the calculations backwards. The massive holes primarily being that his eyebrows look different in 2 grainy photos and that there is … too much… evidence pointing to him? Not really trying to argue it since it feels like it’s kind of a benign question to argue anyway. Low info situation right now and not really anything at stake whether it’s him or not. So I’m not really interested in trying to convince you or list out each detail that seems odd. I don’t mean this in a “leave me alone” way, just specifying it wasn’t my intention to convince anyone. More so just sharing my thoughts and seeing what info others have But you simultaneously seem to want to hide behind it being a low info situation, while postulating on what you think at various junctures whenever suits. I think speculation has a place in any situation. Its all a matter of how much confidence or certainty people attach to it. I am attaching almost none. I was just being clear I am not saying anyone else is wrong because I think saying someone is wrong requires more confidence than speculation. Just kinda shootin the shit and discussing. Not everything needs to be an argument and sometimes we can freely discuss conflicting theories without it being combative Well yeah you’re just ‘shooting the shit’ and discussing things except you completely dodged my counter points to your initial postulations, and went on to repeat the same ones multiple times. Call me crazy but that’s the behaviour of someone who has some kind of investment into what they’re ’just asking questions’ on. If say, Joe Rogan was doing this on some subject other than this one, that you didn’t like, you’d be on him like flies on shit for being irresponsible, conspiratorial etc. Come the fuck on guys, have some standards.
Apparently the shit Joe Rogan says in public matters. He shouldn't idly speculate because people hang on his every word. With all due respect to Mohdoo, he can say whatever the fuck he likes.
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Northern Ireland23313 Posts
On December 11 2024 09:17 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2024 09:05 WombaT wrote:On December 11 2024 08:42 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 08:16 WombaT wrote:On December 11 2024 08:13 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 06:36 BlackJack wrote:On December 11 2024 05:47 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 05:44 Billyboy wrote:On December 11 2024 05:37 Mohdoo wrote:On December 11 2024 04:08 Billyboy wrote:
Wouldn't a super rich good looking guy who graduated from a fancy prep school as valedictorian and then graduated from an Ivy league university be the exact opposite of who you would pick to be a patsy?
Alternatively, Luigi's background makes it very easy for him to emerge mostly unscathed if it turns out he's not the shooter. Plenty of family wealth and resources to defend himself if it turns out the only evidence is the evidence he had on him. All of Luigi's background and recent struggles make him an ideal person to decide "fuck it, what a golden opportunity to help this guy out". Some components of this story appear so meticulously planned you could argue Luigi as a red herring is somewhat reasonable. If we imagine a situation where a month from now Luigi is finally found to be the wrong guy, it will mean the entire effort to find the real shooter was abandoned early and all hopes of ever finding him are gone. To reach ever further, rich privvy types like Luigi always fantasize about throwing it all away and risking it all on a bold vision. All while lacking the confidence and courage to actually do it. You could argue serving as a red herring would be the ideal situation for both of them. One can argue anything, does not make it remotely likely. Also true. For me, there is no explanation for any of this that doesn't have massive holes. So I am mostly agnostic. People explaining away stuff as a mental breakdown when he was apparently meticulous and calculated days before feels forced and working out the calculations backwards. The massive holes primarily being that his eyebrows look different in 2 grainy photos and that there is … too much… evidence pointing to him? Not really trying to argue it since it feels like it’s kind of a benign question to argue anyway. Low info situation right now and not really anything at stake whether it’s him or not. So I’m not really interested in trying to convince you or list out each detail that seems odd. I don’t mean this in a “leave me alone” way, just specifying it wasn’t my intention to convince anyone. More so just sharing my thoughts and seeing what info others have But you simultaneously seem to want to hide behind it being a low info situation, while postulating on what you think at various junctures whenever suits. I think speculation has a place in any situation. Its all a matter of how much confidence or certainty people attach to it. I am attaching almost none. I was just being clear I am not saying anyone else is wrong because I think saying someone is wrong requires more confidence than speculation. Just kinda shootin the shit and discussing. Not everything needs to be an argument and sometimes we can freely discuss conflicting theories without it being combative Well yeah you’re just ‘shooting the shit’ and discussing things except you completely dodged my counter points to your initial postulations, and went on to repeat the same ones multiple times. Call me crazy but that’s the behaviour of someone who has some kind of investment into what they’re ’just asking questions’ on. If say, Joe Rogan was doing this on some subject other than this one, that you didn’t like, you’d be on him like flies on shit for being irresponsible, conspiratorial etc. Come the fuck on guys, have some standards. I wasn't trying to do some kinda bad faith just asking questions thing. My feeling from discussing this with others elsewhere was that a lot of people felt like the situation was still recent enough to where its within reason to speculate within the fringe so long as its not like I'm dismissing other ideas or arguing my speculation must be accurate. I won't pretend I haven't communicated poorly in the past, so my apologies if that didn't come through. Either way, just to be clear, i was not intending to push back against other narratives or indicate i have a more valid perspective. And now that we have what appears to be a real manifesto, I think the odds are increasingly likely he's the real shooter and he wanted to be caught when he was.
Fair enough, and apologies for the spikiness. As you may have guessed this particular thing does rather frustrate me.
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Unsurprisingly to everyone I think WombaT is 100% spot on with calling out “if the shoe were on the other foot…” hypocrisy on conspiracy theories. Although we all know that’s my schtick and WombaT is just impersonating me.
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Northern Ireland23313 Posts
On December 11 2024 11:44 BlackJack wrote:
Unsurprisingly to everyone I think WombaT is 100% spot on with calling out “if the shoe were on the other foot…” hypocrisy on conspiracy theories. Although we all know that’s my schtick and WombaT is just impersonating me.
Good USPol posters borrow, great ones steal and all that :p
In this instance an earnest, albeit somewhat atypical full alignment on this particular topic.
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Mohdoo takes tons of shit, including right now. He just does an excellent of taking it in stride and not returning fire. He either deescalates by responding as if the other person had the best of intentions or just not responding at all. So it never gets past this stage.
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On December 11 2024 08:57 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2024 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
This is a forum and speculation is fun, I don't really see a problem, he really doesnt seem as unhinged as like, an anti-vaxxer or something, the situation is odd, someone super educated who executed a pretty clean and well planned out looking hit on someone powerful being found with a metric shit ton of extremely incriminating stuff that by all rights should have been easy to dispose of is a weird situation, its not like hes some Floridian crackhead or something.
Maybe he wanted to get caught so he could get his message out there in the court room, maybe he hadn't put any meaningful forethought into his plan beyond the first day escaping the hit, maybe he was planning to travel around the country to avoid capture and just hadn't disposed of anything yet.
I don't really see any reason to give two shits about how right wingers in this thread might be treated in a similar hypothetical situation, I mostly don't respect right wing beliefs on a fundamental level, but right wing conspiracies are also typically weird and more insane (ring of satanic pedophiles in a pizza place's basement) than speculating on the situation around why such a seemingly intelligent person would get caught with a baffling amount of incriminating shit given he seemed to have damn near evaded capture. His gun fucking jammed in the carrying out of this clean and professional standard hit. I don’t necessarily resent all speculation, but it should be couched in some kind of framework of known factors. Otherwise one is just pissing ‘I reckon’ into the void. And one is no better than Pizzagaters at that point. It’s just inventing a narrative to dovetail with one’s own. And if the left are just happy to piss out their own variant of Pizzagate narratives, they can’t really claim any kind of superiority in being skeptical but considered consumers of information
Isn't it beyond specutlation now, that the gun was homemade/3D printed?
So malfunction is pretty normal - or the gun was even designed as single-shot, which is heaps easier to make and safer to operate than a home made semi-Automatic system.
To the rest of your post.. let the people speculate.
It really is strange that the dude, with proven intelligence, was so careless.
It's really special that police somehow has unlimited ressources and intelligence when rich persons get killed.
(yet gunownership is advertised as replacement of police protection for the poor and middle class)
It's really frightening that the USA is so "Big Brothered" that surveillance cameras can see almost every angle of every street (yet mysteriously compromising body cam footage gets lost daily)
Speculating about Luigi is really a vacation from Trump This..Trump That... TBH.
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I have no problem with a good conspiracy theory but I take issue with people that jump straight to conspiracy for the dumbest reasons. Your armchair psychoanalysis of a cold blooded killer that you know nothing about has made you determine his actions don’t make sense? Word?
@baal, maybe an appropriate gif for your first post in 14 years to symbolize your rise from the dead but you will probably realize TL is more heavily moderated than you remember lol. A single post consisting of a gif will get you actioned.
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First Candace Owens and now Brett Cooper? The lesson is.. don't get more popular than grandpa Ben and Uncle Matt or you'll get fired. I find Candace and Brett both irritating and at the same time MORE REAL than Ben and Matt. As irritating as Ms. Cooper is... I find her informative.
I want a remake of Jackie Brown starring Candace Owens.
No longer can media giants control their on air talent the way they did in 1970. It is a refreshing change. It'll be fun watching Candace and Brett do their thing.
On December 11 2024 20:06 KT_Elwood wrote:
It's really frightening that the USA is so "Big Brothered" that surveillance cameras can see almost every angle of every street (yet mysteriously compromising body cam footage gets lost daily)
That is only true in big cities. There is no one within 400m of my house.
Big city life sucks and is getting worse. My advice is simple: move out of the city.
https://betterdwelling.com/canadians-fleeing-toronto-vancouver-accelerated-to-a-record-pace-bmo/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/10/14/young-adults-leaving-cities-for-rural/75616277007/
I used to love Toronto. Now, its a smelly, violent, pathetic mess.
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On December 11 2024 21:49 BlackJack wrote:
I have no problem with a good conspiracy theory but I take issue with people that jump straight to conspiracy for the dumbest reasons. Your armchair psychoanalysis of a cold blooded killer that you know nothing about has made you determine his actions don’t make sense? Word?
@baal, maybe an appropriate gif for your first post in 14 years to symbolize your rise from the dead but you will probably realize TL is more heavily moderated than you remember lol. A single post consisting of a gif will get you actioned.
I said his gun jammed, because it's home made.. and that his CV would suggest that he isn't dumb. Also he killed a man on the street, and made it out of the city and out of the state.
Why didn't he dump the evidence of ever having been to NY.. why bother with fake IDs, burner Phones ghost guns?
Couldn't he stomach the killing afterwards and got super nervous?
All speculation.
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Gatekeeping conspiracy theories. Interesting times we are in.
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Northern Ireland23313 Posts
On December 11 2024 20:06 KT_Elwood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2024 08:57 WombaT wrote:On December 11 2024 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
This is a forum and speculation is fun, I don't really see a problem, he really doesnt seem as unhinged as like, an anti-vaxxer or something, the situation is odd, someone super educated who executed a pretty clean and well planned out looking hit on someone powerful being found with a metric shit ton of extremely incriminating stuff that by all rights should have been easy to dispose of is a weird situation, its not like hes some Floridian crackhead or something.
Maybe he wanted to get caught so he could get his message out there in the court room, maybe he hadn't put any meaningful forethought into his plan beyond the first day escaping the hit, maybe he was planning to travel around the country to avoid capture and just hadn't disposed of anything yet.
I don't really see any reason to give two shits about how right wingers in this thread might be treated in a similar hypothetical situation, I mostly don't respect right wing beliefs on a fundamental level, but right wing conspiracies are also typically weird and more insane (ring of satanic pedophiles in a pizza place's basement) than speculating on the situation around why such a seemingly intelligent person would get caught with a baffling amount of incriminating shit given he seemed to have damn near evaded capture. His gun fucking jammed in the carrying out of this clean and professional standard hit. I don’t necessarily resent all speculation, but it should be couched in some kind of framework of known factors. Otherwise one is just pissing ‘I reckon’ into the void. And one is no better than Pizzagaters at that point. It’s just inventing a narrative to dovetail with one’s own. And if the left are just happy to piss out their own variant of Pizzagate narratives, they can’t really claim any kind of superiority in being skeptical but considered consumers of information Isn't it beyond specutlation now, that the gun was homemade/3D printed? So malfunction is pretty normal - or the gun was even designed as single-shot, which is heaps easier to make and safer to operate than a home made semi-Automatic system. To the rest of your post.. let the people speculate. It really is strange that the dude, with proven intelligence, was so careless. It's really special that police somehow has unlimited ressources and intelligence when rich persons get killed. (yet gunownership is advertised as replacement of police protection for the poor and middle class) It's really frightening that the USA is so "Big Brothered" that surveillance cameras can see almost every angle of every street (yet mysteriously compromising body cam footage gets lost daily) Speculating about Luigi is really a vacation from Trump This..Trump That... TBH.
It could be strange, it may not be. I’m not against speculation and theories entirely, it is a nice break from Trump admittedly but for me it’s frustrating when
Stroking one’s chin and going ‘Hm, this doesn’t add up’, fine but people are doing this before they’ve even seen the sum
Imagine the most stressed out you’ve ever been and how functional you were versus baseline. Now imagine having to psyche yourself up to shoot someone in broad daylight, and the subsequent stress of being on the run as the suspect in a murder that’s huge news all over the world.
Most people are going to struggle to hold it together, even if they’ve planned things pretty damn well.
Unless they’re legitimately a psychopath who don’t tend to feel that kind of stress on a physiological level in the same way. But even then that tends to be a double-edged sword as a lack of impulse control and fear of consequences also manifests in carelessness there.
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Northern Ireland23313 Posts
On December 11 2024 21:49 BlackJack wrote:
I have no problem with a good conspiracy theory but I take issue with people that jump straight to conspiracy for the dumbest reasons. Your armchair psychoanalysis of a cold blooded killer that you know nothing about has made you determine his actions don’t make sense? Word?
@baal, maybe an appropriate gif for your first post in 14 years to symbolize your rise from the dead but you will probably realize TL is more heavily moderated than you remember lol. A single post consisting of a gif will get you actioned.
Haha didn’t notice it was an old-timer, thought it was a reference to billy boy’s return
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Those articles look to be 2 years old and also more appropriate for the Canada thread than the US thread. If you are worried nobody is going to give them any attention in the Canada thread I would gladly contribute because I read they are getting 1% raises over 3 years which is absolute dog shit given what inflation has been.
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On December 12 2024 05:27 BlackJack wrote:
Those articles look to be 2 years old and also more appropriate for the Canada thread than the US thread. If you are worried nobody is going to give them any attention in the Canada thread I would gladly contribute because I read they are getting 1% raises over 3 years which is absolute dog shit given what inflation has been.
from the article.
“Everyday you go to work, you’re working understaffed, your license is on the line,” Ola-Adigun told CTV News in an interview.
i think it speaks to the quality of the health care system in the USA which has come into question after that insurance guy got shot. it is interesting americans view everything in terms of money though. working conditions are declining rapidly in Canada. Working environments for health care professionals are better in the USA. In fact, I'd say the gap is widening between the USA and Canada.
Here is something more recent.
https://www.vivian.com/community/travel-nursing/why-canadian-nurses-should-explore-the-u-s-travel-nursing-market/
Now, we can criticize the US health care providers according to some imaginary ideal. However, it is more realistic to compare it to other health care providers. As consumers, we merely have a choice between imperfect options. No perfect ideal exists.
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You’re linking a website for a company that recruits travel nurses to make the argument that Canadian nurses are better off becoming travel nurses to the US. Perhaps not the most impartial source.
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