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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
*Omg what a horrible thing to say* "Let's see if the health insurance CEOs are as eager to deny claims when we start murdering them in cold blood." *Thunderous applause* | ||
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Vivax
22068 Posts
If they are going to go up, something was afoot. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23411 Posts
On December 07 2024 06:51 BlackJack wrote: What if we find out the assassin is actually GH who was spurred on by all of Kwark's badgering that he's a wanna-be revolutionary and he needs to man up and take action Wouldn't be enough for Kwark to stop anyway. His petulance isn't rational. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On December 07 2024 06:51 BlackJack wrote: What if we find out the assassin is actually GH who was spurred on by all of Kwark's badgering that he's a wanna-be revolutionary and he needs to man up and take action Ah ya got me actually almost snorted out my coffee ‘Sir it sure made things a lot easier that you confessed, and I’m interested in the ideas of Freire you had in your manifesto we picked up, but who is this ‘Kwark’ you keep referring to? The leader of your revolutionary cell? Answer me!’ | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 07 2024 06:59 BlackJack wrote: "Let's see if a war hawk is still as eager to send people to war if we put her with a rifle with and the guns trained at her face." *Omg what a horrible thing to say* "Let's see if the health insurance CEOs are as eager to deny claims when we start murdering them in cold blood." *Thunderous applause* Trump said that. He's the most pro-war president in recent history. He bombed other countries several times more than Obama. He's the one who called Liz Cheney a war hawk. A heavily pro-war president calling her a war hawk and asking for rifles to be pointed at her. If you're looking for a double standard, you're not going to find it there. People here went so far as to condemn the assassination attempt of Trump. If anything, people aren't anywhere near as bloodthirsty as you make them out to be. | ||
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ETisME
12489 Posts
I own the same one but an old version from 8 years ago. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On December 07 2024 06:59 BlackJack wrote: "Let's see if a war hawk is still as eager to send people to war if we put her with a rifle with and the guns trained at her face." *Omg what a horrible thing to say* "Let's see if the health insurance CEOs are as eager to deny claims when we start murdering them in cold blood." *Thunderous applause* As per, is it the same people? I can’t recall if I posted re the first example, I’m plenty critical but that one I thought was fair enough and not meriting of outrage. The left who think violence can be justifiable aren’t liable to give much of a shit that Trump was mean about Liz Cheney of all folks. There’s plenty of other forms of social or cultural censure that to me are preferable to an innovative quick method of denying claims. Unpopular football club owners don’t have much fun out in public but they’re not assaulted. Or a Bobby Kotick famously bemoaning his dating life being trick because anyone he was courting would Google him and find a bunch of articles calling him a piece of shit | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On December 07 2024 07:37 Magic Powers wrote: Trump said that. He's the most pro-war president in recent history. He bombed other countries several times more than Obama. He's the one who called Liz Cheney a war hawk. A heavily pro-war president calling her a war hawk and asking for rifles to be pointed at her. If you're looking for a double standard, you're not going to find it there. People here went so far as to condemn the assassination attempt of Trump. If anything, people aren't anywhere near as bloodthirsty as you make them out to be. I don’t think Trump is an especially anti or pro-war kinda guy, he’ll go with whatever is expedient and benefits him at any particular time or circumstance. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 07 2024 08:04 WombaT wrote: I don’t think Trump is an especially anti or pro-war kinda guy, he’ll go with whatever is expedient and benefits him at any particular time or circumstance. From my viewpoint Obama is pro-war, too. He bombed the hell out of various countries. Trump then ramped it up to record numbers before he slowed down. It's hard to find numbers on Biden, but he appears to be a less horrible version of Obama. The proof is in the pudding. And I personally wouldn't mind if all three of them had received the CEO treatment. I just doubt that it would be a replicable action, so realistically there's not much of a threat in it. Unlike for bloodthirsty CEOs who are much easier targets. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10131 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10131 Posts
On December 07 2024 06:59 BlackJack wrote: "Let's see if a war hawk is still as eager to send people to war if we put her with a rifle with and the guns trained at her face." *Omg what a horrible thing to say* Pretty sure i am perfectly fine with that quote (and most people aswell). It is more about who you consider to be a warhawk in the first place. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
On December 07 2024 06:51 BlackJack wrote: What if we find out the assassin is actually GH who was spurred on by all of Kwark's badgering that he's a wanna-be revolutionary and he needs to man up and take action Unless GH is doing whiteface... | ||
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Razyda
867 Posts
On December 07 2024 05:17 Magic Powers wrote: If I have the choice between either A) a chance of saving a few people from becoming the casualties of a murderous psychopath or B) no chance of saving anyone by letting the murderous psycho live, I want to see the person arguing we should definitely pick B because reasons. In the meantime I'm glad a mass murderer is gone from the public eye. I consider this an act of self defense. How one election can change people  .I seem to recall trolley problem discussed in this thread. Seems to me you are perfectly happy pulling this lever... repeatedly... with a smile... | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 07 2024 11:46 Razyda wrote: How one election can change people .I seem to recall trolley problem discussed in this thread. Seems to me you are perfectly happy pulling this lever... repeatedly... with a smile... I haven't changed my position. Self defense is not murder, I argued that exact point back then but people didn't understand what I said. | ||
micronesia
United States24709 Posts
On December 07 2024 11:46 Razyda wrote: Seems to me you are perfectly happy pulling this lever... repeatedly... with a smile... I prefer the inverse, where pulling the lever saves the insurance CEOs tied to the tracks at no cost. Do you do it? Might be a bit more thought provoking than "is it okay to murder people in broad daylight in a crowded city" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On December 07 2024 11:46 Razyda wrote: How one election can change people .I seem to recall trolley problem discussed in this thread. Seems to me you are perfectly happy pulling this lever... repeatedly... with a smile... One election? This kind of sentiment only comes from years and years of systemic resentment, it doesn’t pop up overnight. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On December 07 2024 09:23 Godwrath wrote: Pretty sure i am perfectly fine with that quote (and most people aswell). It is more about who you consider to be a warhawk in the first place. Inconvenient as Blackjack seems to value finding supposed hypocrisy to augment his pontifications than actually evaluating things on face value | ||
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Razyda
867 Posts
On December 07 2024 12:14 Magic Powers wrote: I haven't changed my position. Self defense is not murder, I argued that exact point back then but people didn't understand what I said. In what world sneaking up on someone and putting 3 bullets in his back is self defence?? On December 07 2024 12:18 micronesia wrote: I prefer the inverse, where pulling the lever saves the insurance CEOs tied to the tracks at no cost. Do you do it? Might be a bit more thought provoking than "is it okay to murder people in broad daylight in a crowded city" I think I made my position on trolley problem rather clear, it is the same as supposed MP position on the issue, although for different reasons. On December 07 2024 12:23 WombaT wrote: One election? This kind of sentiment only comes from years and years of systemic resentment, it doesn’t pop up overnight. One election, refers to MP (who, quite frankly, seems to be in shambles since Trump victory) position on the trolley problem. On December 07 2024 12:26 WombaT wrote: Inconvenient as Blackjack seems to value finding supposed hypocrisy to augment his pontifications than actually evaluating things on face value Pretty sure "supposed" have no place in this post | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On December 07 2024 12:38 Razyda wrote: In what world sneaking up on someone and putting 3 bullets in his back is self defence?? It's not the action that creates the distinction. The cause does. Sneaking up on Hitler and putting a few bullets in his back would be considered self-defense. How is that possible? Because protecting people from a mass murderer is self-defense. | ||
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