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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 21:08 GMT
#84121
On May 31 2024 06:06 BlackJack wrote:
Hung jury I heard


On May 31 2024 06:07 StasisField wrote:
Trump found guilty on all charges


Sources please!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 21:09 GMT
#84122
"They found him guilty on all 34 counts he faced."

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-trial-verdict-jury/
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-30 21:10:53
May 30 2024 21:10 GMT
#84123
On May 31 2024 06:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 06:06 BlackJack wrote:
Hung jury I heard


Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 06:07 StasisField wrote:
Trump found guilty on all charges


Sources please!

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict

No judge would ever let a hung jury occur this early in the deliberation process. Blackjack needs to reconsider where he gets his info
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43971 Posts
May 30 2024 21:11 GMT
#84124
On May 31 2024 06:07 StasisField wrote:
Trump found guilty on all charges

Probably because of all that proof like that his accountant literally wrote down the breakdown of the payments and what each part was for but maybe because of the radical left.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1089 Posts
May 30 2024 21:12 GMT
#84125
On May 31 2024 06:10 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 06:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 31 2024 06:06 BlackJack wrote:
Hung jury I heard


On May 31 2024 06:07 StasisField wrote:
Trump found guilty on all charges


Sources please!

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict

No judge would ever let a hung jury occur this early in the deliberation process. Blackjack needs to reconsider where he gets his info

Yep, guilty on all 34 counts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/trump-trial-jury-deliberations-hush-money-case-rcna154607

Question your sources Blackjack.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
May 30 2024 21:16 GMT
#84126
Maybe Blackjack was referring to the Trumpist plan for how to punish the jury?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 21:16 GMT
#84127
On May 31 2024 06:16 micronesia wrote:
Maybe Blackjack was referring to the Trumpist plan for how to punish the jury?


Very dark, but I hear they have a pro-Pence-ity for that kind of thing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9844 Posts
May 30 2024 21:30 GMT
#84128
I dread to think what life is going to be like for these jurors.
Surely they will basically have to live in witness protection from now on. Unless I'm missing something.
RIP Meatloaf <3
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 21:37 GMT
#84129
Also, to be clear: 34 felony counts. Trump is now a convicted felon, convicted of dozens of felonies, to add to his already-impressive resume of being a civilly-liable rapist.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43971 Posts
May 30 2024 21:41 GMT
#84130
It's weird that this is the thing that they got him on. Like Al Capone and tax fraud, of the great many felonies that Trump openly commits and brags about it's somehow fraudulent journal entries on his business records that they got him on. As opposed to things like diverting billions in congressionally granted military aid for Ukraine so that he could use withholding it as leverage over the President of Ukraine for personal benefit.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 21:42 GMT
#84131
On May 31 2024 06:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
I dread to think what life is going to be like for these jurors.
Surely they will basically have to live in witness protection from now on. Unless I'm missing something.


I'm worried about that too. If even a friend of an acquaintance of a relative of one of them accidentally leaks that they were a juror to a crazy MAGA lunatic... oof x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 21:44 GMT
#84132
On May 31 2024 06:41 KwarK wrote:
It's weird that this is the thing that they got him on. Like Al Capone and tax fraud, of the great many felonies that Trump openly commits and brags about it's somehow fraudulent journal entries on his business records that they got him on. As opposed to things like diverting billions in congressionally granted military aid for Ukraine so that he could use withholding it as leverage over the President of Ukraine for personal benefit.


Yeah. This is hopefully just the first of four successful prosecutions. There are a lot more indictments, many of which are more severe and that he should be found guilty on... except those trials won't happen until way later (if at all). 34/34 felony convictions is certainly better than 0-34 though!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
957 Posts
May 30 2024 21:45 GMT
#84133
On May 31 2024 06:16 micronesia wrote:
Maybe Blackjack was referring to the Trumpist plan for how to punish the jury?


Like that one?:




Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11825 Posts
May 30 2024 22:23 GMT
#84134
So, what does that mean? Does he actually go to prison now? Guilty of 34 felonies sounds like stuff you would go to prison for? Or is this another of these things where it turns out it has basically no real consequences?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
May 30 2024 22:25 GMT
#84135
There will be a sentencing hearing in the coming weeks where that will get figured out. I'm sure he'll also appeal, but I can't imagine all the falsehoods and bad behavior he's been exhibiting won't come back to bit him during that process.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
May 30 2024 22:30 GMT
#84136
To think this is the weakest and least consequential of the cases against Trump. Polling shows this likely won't make a dramatic shift in voting intent, but I guess it's cathartic to finally see him not slip away from consequences.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-30 22:37:59
May 30 2024 22:36 GMT
#84137
On May 31 2024 07:23 Simberto wrote:
So, what does that mean? Does he actually go to prison now? Guilty of 34 felonies sounds like stuff you would go to prison for? Or is this another of these things where it turns out it has basically no real consequences?


Sentencing is July 11th. Up to 4 years in prison (per charge? or total? not sure), but I doubt he'll actually go to jail.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
May 30 2024 22:39 GMT
#84138
On May 31 2024 07:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 07:23 Simberto wrote:
So, what does that mean? Does he actually go to prison now? Guilty of 34 felonies sounds like stuff you would go to prison for? Or is this another of these things where it turns out it has basically no real consequences?


Sentencing is July 11th. Up to 4 years in prison (per charge? or total? not sure), but I doubt he'll actually go to jail.

These crimes are usually served concurrently so if he gets time he would get at most 4 years. I'm thinking he'll either get probation or he'll do house arrest for a few months. He could still walk away with just a fine though.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45780 Posts
May 30 2024 22:40 GMT
#84139
On May 31 2024 07:39 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 07:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 31 2024 07:23 Simberto wrote:
So, what does that mean? Does he actually go to prison now? Guilty of 34 felonies sounds like stuff you would go to prison for? Or is this another of these things where it turns out it has basically no real consequences?


Sentencing is July 11th. Up to 4 years in prison (per charge? or total? not sure), but I doubt he'll actually go to jail.

These crimes are usually served concurrently so if he gets time he would get at most 4 years. I'm thinking he'll either get probation or he'll do house arrest for a few months. He could still walk away with just a fine though.


Understood, thanks!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18285 Posts
May 31 2024 06:14 GMT
#84140
On May 31 2024 07:39 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2024 07:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 31 2024 07:23 Simberto wrote:
So, what does that mean? Does he actually go to prison now? Guilty of 34 felonies sounds like stuff you would go to prison for? Or is this another of these things where it turns out it has basically no real consequences?


Sentencing is July 11th. Up to 4 years in prison (per charge? or total? not sure), but I doubt he'll actually go to jail.

These crimes are usually served concurrently so if he gets time he would get at most 4 years. I'm thinking he'll either get probation or he'll do house arrest for a few months. He could still walk away with just a fine though.

I don't envy the judge. Give him just a fine, and the story will be that the rich and powerful can do whatever they want and get away with a scolding. Give him house arrest and/or jail and people will yell it's election tampering, not to mention the logistical nightmare it would be to actually try to jail Trump.
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