EPTOn May 31 2024 06:06 BlackJack wrote:
Hung jury I heard
Hung jury I heard
On May 31 2024 06:07 StasisField wrote:
Trump found guilty on all charges
Trump found guilty on all charges
Sources please!
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DarkPlasmaBall
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DarkPlasmaBall
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https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-trial-verdict-jury/ | ||
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StasisField
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict No judge would ever let a hung jury occur this early in the deliberation process. Blackjack needs to reconsider where he gets his info | ||
KwarK
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On May 31 2024 06:07 StasisField wrote: Trump found guilty on all charges Probably because of all that proof like that his accountant literally wrote down the breakdown of the payments and what each part was for but maybe because of the radical left. | ||
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RenSC2
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On May 31 2024 06:10 StasisField wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict No judge would ever let a hung jury occur this early in the deliberation process. Blackjack needs to reconsider where he gets his info Yep, guilty on all 34 counts. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/trump-trial-jury-deliberations-hush-money-case-rcna154607 Question your sources Blackjack. | ||
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micronesia
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On May 31 2024 06:16 micronesia wrote: Maybe Blackjack was referring to the Trumpist plan for how to punish the jury? Very dark, but I hear they have a pro-Pence-ity for that kind of thing. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Surely they will basically have to live in witness protection from now on. Unless I'm missing something. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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KwarK
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On May 31 2024 06:30 Jockmcplop wrote: I dread to think what life is going to be like for these jurors. Surely they will basically have to live in witness protection from now on. Unless I'm missing something. I'm worried about that too. If even a friend of an acquaintance of a relative of one of them accidentally leaks that they were a juror to a crazy MAGA lunatic... oof x.x | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On May 31 2024 06:41 KwarK wrote: It's weird that this is the thing that they got him on. Like Al Capone and tax fraud, of the great many felonies that Trump openly commits and brags about it's somehow fraudulent journal entries on his business records that they got him on. As opposed to things like diverting billions in congressionally granted military aid for Ukraine so that he could use withholding it as leverage over the President of Ukraine for personal benefit. Yeah. This is hopefully just the first of four successful prosecutions. There are a lot more indictments, many of which are more severe and that he should be found guilty on... except those trials won't happen until way later (if at all). 34/34 felony convictions is certainly better than 0-34 though! | ||
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Razyda
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On May 31 2024 06:16 micronesia wrote: Maybe Blackjack was referring to the Trumpist plan for how to punish the jury? Like that one?: | ||
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Simberto
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micronesia
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PhoenixVoid
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On May 31 2024 07:23 Simberto wrote: So, what does that mean? Does he actually go to prison now? Guilty of 34 felonies sounds like stuff you would go to prison for? Or is this another of these things where it turns out it has basically no real consequences? Sentencing is July 11th. Up to 4 years in prison (per charge? or total? not sure), but I doubt he'll actually go to jail. | ||
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StasisField
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On May 31 2024 07:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Sentencing is July 11th. Up to 4 years in prison (per charge? or total? not sure), but I doubt he'll actually go to jail. These crimes are usually served concurrently so if he gets time he would get at most 4 years. I'm thinking he'll either get probation or he'll do house arrest for a few months. He could still walk away with just a fine though. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On May 31 2024 07:39 StasisField wrote: These crimes are usually served concurrently so if he gets time he would get at most 4 years. I'm thinking he'll either get probation or he'll do house arrest for a few months. He could still walk away with just a fine though. Understood, thanks! | ||
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Acrofales
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On May 31 2024 07:39 StasisField wrote: These crimes are usually served concurrently so if he gets time he would get at most 4 years. I'm thinking he'll either get probation or he'll do house arrest for a few months. He could still walk away with just a fine though. I don't envy the judge. Give him just a fine, and the story will be that the rich and powerful can do whatever they want and get away with a scolding. Give him house arrest and/or jail and people will yell it's election tampering, not to mention the logistical nightmare it would be to actually try to jail Trump. | ||
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