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ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
799 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-05 09:57:47
July 05 2023 09:57 GMT
#79761
On July 05 2023 18:55 gobbledydook wrote:
If your dick is too small, Sorry!
I think we can all agree that this should be punished in some way, and this way might be just good enough.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5201 Posts
July 05 2023 09:58 GMT
#79762
Don't open that can of worms, you'll have sexual predators lining up for penis reduction surgery just to get into the women's bathrooms!
Taxes are for Terrans
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11948 Posts
July 05 2023 11:00 GMT
#79763
On July 05 2023 18:55 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 18:24 ZeroByte13 wrote:
On July 05 2023 18:22 Velr wrote:
You make a "selfie" and show it to the Barkeeper/Service Personal.
Sounds reasonable and convenient, also it will create more jobs... and what kind of jobs!
Solution is found, we can stop the discussion now.

Heck, we don't need a barkeeper, just have a camera pointing at the crotch area that unlocks the door via image recognition.
If your dick is too small, Sorry!

Can't have the barkeeper or a camera with AI doing that. It all needs to be official. We need a government agency.

(And no, i am not only proposing this so i can get a card saying i am an "officially licensed penis inspector".)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 05 2023 11:04 GMT
#79764
On July 05 2023 18:58 Uldridge wrote:
Don't open that can of worms, you'll have sexual predators lining up for penis reduction surgery just to get into the women's bathrooms!

They'll be lining up for the lady's room piss pass.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
799 Posts
July 05 2023 11:06 GMT
#79765
"Piss pass" is genius - it sounds sooo marketable, great ads might come out of this.

Have YOU extended your PissPass(tm)? Call 000-111-33333 now!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
July 05 2023 11:27 GMT
#79766
On July 05 2023 20:00 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 18:55 gobbledydook wrote:
On July 05 2023 18:24 ZeroByte13 wrote:
On July 05 2023 18:22 Velr wrote:
You make a "selfie" and show it to the Barkeeper/Service Personal.
Sounds reasonable and convenient, also it will create more jobs... and what kind of jobs!
Solution is found, we can stop the discussion now.

Heck, we don't need a barkeeper, just have a camera pointing at the crotch area that unlocks the door via image recognition.
If your dick is too small, Sorry!

Can't have the barkeeper or a camera with AI doing that. It all needs to be official. We need a government agency.

(And no, i am not only proposing this so i can get a card saying i am an "officially licensed penis inspector".)


Sharing the picture on a big screen in the Restaurant/Bar and then holding a vote would be very democratic.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
799 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-05 11:41:28
July 05 2023 11:39 GMT
#79767
On July 05 2023 20:27 Velr wrote:
Sharing the picture on a big screen in the Restaurant/Bar and then holding a vote would be very democratic.
...AND WE HAVE A WINNER!
Also this will instill more responsibility in people, they will be reminded all the time that it's up to them to make bathrooms safe.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
July 05 2023 11:49 GMT
#79768
And to properly clean their genitals.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24788 Posts
July 05 2023 12:14 GMT
#79769
On July 05 2023 18:05 Velr wrote:
The Bar i visit most frequently just removed the Men/Woman signs.
No one cared, in one of them there is also a pissoir, turns out women are fully capable of walking past it.

Are men at that bar overall comfortable using a urinal with women walking right past them? Just curious.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 05 2023 12:17 GMT
#79770
On July 05 2023 21:14 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 18:05 Velr wrote:
The Bar i visit most frequently just removed the Men/Woman signs.
No one cared, in one of them there is also a pissoir, turns out women are fully capable of walking past it.

Are men at that bar overall comfortable using a urinal with women walking right past them? Just curious.

I know I wouldn't be.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44228 Posts
July 05 2023 12:22 GMT
#79771
It’s no worse than using one with men walking past.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
July 05 2023 12:43 GMT
#79772
On July 05 2023 17:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
I thought that surely y'all hadn't spent 100+ posts on this since I last read, but alas...

Trans people should have the same rights as the rest of us and as far as the US goes they're allowed far less than has been earned imo.

EDIT: y'all are unbelievable.

I thought I missed some big news when I saw the number of posts but everyone just feels compelled to have their say on bathrooms for some reason.

The worst part is that no one even wants to actively push this, there's no nefarious group behind it or anything. It's just that metric-driven social media is really good at finding and blasting the topics that have naturally high engagement, which then get picked up by trad media and politicians, whose takes then get recycled in social media and you end up with this avalanche that potentially makes elections decided by goddamn bathroom designs at a time of great economic, ecological and geopolitical change and uncertainty.

I can deal with a world where powerful lobbying groups are doing damage for short term financial interests, I can make sense of it. I can't deal with a world where the damage is an unintended consequence of some stupid Facebook KPI.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
July 05 2023 13:03 GMT
#79773
On July 05 2023 21:43 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 17:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
I thought that surely y'all hadn't spent 100+ posts on this since I last read, but alas...

Trans people should have the same rights as the rest of us and as far as the US goes they're allowed far less than has been earned imo.

EDIT: y'all are unbelievable.

I thought I missed some big news when I saw the number of posts but everyone just feels compelled to have their say on bathrooms for some reason.

The worst part is that no one even wants to actively push this, there's no nefarious group behind it or anything. It's just that metric-driven social media is really good at finding and blasting the topics that have naturally high engagement, which then get picked up by trad media and politicians, whose takes then get recycled in social media and you end up with this avalanche that potentially makes elections decided by goddamn bathroom designs at a time of great economic, ecological and geopolitical change and uncertainty.

I can deal with a world where powerful lobbying groups are doing damage for short term financial interests, I can make sense of it. I can't deal with a world where the damage is an unintended consequence of some stupid Facebook KPI.


You won't have to, because all this is an intentional distraction by the ruling elite from those economic, ecological and geopolitical problems.

The fact that elections get decided on non issues like this isn't an accident, it's by design.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 05 2023 13:16 GMT
#79774
--- Nuked ---
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-05 13:31:23
July 05 2023 13:22 GMT
#79775
On July 05 2023 22:16 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 21:14 micronesia wrote:
On July 05 2023 18:05 Velr wrote:
The Bar i visit most frequently just removed the Men/Woman signs.
No one cared, in one of them there is also a pissoir, turns out women are fully capable of walking past it.

Are men at that bar overall comfortable using a urinal with women walking right past them? Just curious.

I would guess no, first you’re drunk. Then, around here anyway, every guy pretty much heads to a tree and turns there back to piss with people of both genders around when camping or younger at bush parties. I could see men getting a little closer to the urinal but I also do not think women are that interested in seeing peeing flaccid dinks.

Women are definitely not as interested in seeing a penis, flaccid or no, as a lot of men like to think they are. This applies at least as much to dick pics. Nobody is jonesing to see your junk.

That said, I don't see what the problem is. Randos are randos. I'd be a little more worried that women suddenly have men in their restrooms, but also general stalls already exist in a lot of spaces and nobody freaks out about it.

On July 05 2023 17:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
I thought that surely y'all hadn't spent 100+ posts on this since I last read, but alas...

Trans people should have the same rights as the rest of us and as far as the US goes they're allowed far less than has been earned imo.

EDIT: y'all are unbelievable.

I feel this a lot.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
July 05 2023 13:59 GMT
#79776
Women are definitely not as interested in seeing a penis, flaccid or no, as a lot of men like to think they are. This applies at least as much to dick pics. Nobody is jonesing to see your junk.


They just haven't seen mine! (Plenty of idiots think )
From my experience men don't care one bit and the ones that do care, only enter bathrooms when no one else is in there anyway.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18408 Posts
July 05 2023 14:01 GMT
#79777
On July 05 2023 21:14 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 18:05 Velr wrote:
The Bar i visit most frequently just removed the Men/Woman signs.
No one cared, in one of them there is also a pissoir, turns out women are fully capable of walking past it.

Are men at that bar overall comfortable using a urinal with women walking right past them? Just curious.

I don't see a problem. If I'm walking in the forest and need to pee, I wait for it to be quiet and find a tree. If someone comes around the corner, I'm a bit embarrassed, but gender of the people walking past doesn't increase or decrease my embarrassment. In urinals, people walking past me don't make me uncomfortable. People peeing in the urinal next to me is midly discomforting.

Of course, everybody is different, but I'd say about 99% of discomfort is cultural, and something you can get over with it just happening a bunch of times without the world ending.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24233 Posts
July 05 2023 15:32 GMT
#79778
On July 05 2023 22:03 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2023 21:43 Dan HH wrote:
On July 05 2023 17:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
I thought that surely y'all hadn't spent 100+ posts on this since I last read, but alas...

Trans people should have the same rights as the rest of us and as far as the US goes they're allowed far less than has been earned imo.

EDIT: y'all are unbelievable.

I thought I missed some big news when I saw the number of posts but everyone just feels compelled to have their say on bathrooms for some reason.

The worst part is that no one even wants to actively push this, there's no nefarious group behind it or anything. It's just that metric-driven social media is really good at finding and blasting the topics that have naturally high engagement, which then get picked up by trad media and politicians, whose takes then get recycled in social media and you end up with this avalanche that potentially makes elections decided by goddamn bathroom designs at a time of great economic, ecological and geopolitical change and uncertainty.

I can deal with a world where powerful lobbying groups are doing damage for short term financial interests, I can make sense of it. I can't deal with a world where the damage is an unintended consequence of some stupid Facebook KPI.


You won't have to, because all this is an intentional distraction by the ruling elite from those economic, ecological and geopolitical problems.

The fact that elections get decided on non issues like this isn't an accident, it's by design.


If you were an alien and came to learn about US politics from the thread you'd be convinced bathrooms (not even trans rights) is the top political issue here. It's embarrassing.

The whole discussion pretty perfectly encapsulates how the scheme you mentioned works.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14176 Posts
July 05 2023 15:45 GMT
#79779
We already build bathrooms to solve the issue the gop is trying to manufacture to attack trans people. I havn't seen a bathroom that does not have privacy for everyone in mind when you're using it. You could raise a problem with olden style pee troughs and the oddly terrible built stalls but this isn't a real issue.

People who make an issue of this are the people who look for problems so they don't have to be confronted on things like why they don't want kids to have good nutrition in schools or for community and technical schools to be free. They're both disgustingly cheap programs that have actual positive impacts. But no we have to talk about how some people feel uncomfortable going to the bathroom in public.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
July 05 2023 17:00 GMT
#79780
imo the funny part is that aside from Taelshin nobody really even disagreed with each other, and nobody actually cares much.
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