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KwarK
United States44286 Posts
On March 30 2022 02:44 NewSunshine wrote: I wasn't aware of that. It makes his campaign promise to forgive student debt ring pretty hollow. Not really. The only thing better than students being on the hook for repayments forever is the government being responsible for repayments. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Democrats have been stuck in the Clinton era for a long time, and the only lesson Ive seen them learn in my lifetime has been about Trump, and the lesson they took from that was the Trump Bad strategy which I dont see being particularly helpful in these coming years. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 30 2022 02:55 Zambrah wrote: Does he care about being re-elected though? Are Democrats at large even in touch enough to know what to do to get elected? Democrats have been stuck in the Clinton era for a long time, and the only lesson Ive seen them learn in my lifetime has been about Trump, and the lesson they took from that was the Trump Bad strategy which I dont see being particularly helpful in these coming years. I mean he ran for president for some reason I guess? I can only assume he wants to avoid the shame of single term president. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Also hes going to be over 80 by the time hes up for reelection so hopefully the US stops its streak of electing Oldest Ever Presidents. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Tbh I think we’re just going to have to buckle up for some Republican ownership of government until Democrats leadership die of old age. Or live forever and get re-elected well into senility like Feinstein. | ||
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lestye
United States4240 Posts
On March 30 2022 02:48 Mohdoo wrote: That was in 1976. It is extremely possible for someone's perspective to change over the course of 40 years. Especially when the situation is extremely different. And the whole idea of re-election. Even if Biden fundamentally hates the youth, if he wants to be re-elected, it is kind of mandatory. Yeah.... and my understanding was that people declaring bankruptcy like day 1 after graduation was a serious loophole back then. I get that. But yeah, hopefully he'll get desperate enough he'll keep his promise. Americans Will Always Do the Right Thing — After Exhausting All the Alternatives | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27351 Posts
Appalling quality but hey, it’s a classic | ||
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Doc.Rivers
United States404 Posts
On March 29 2022 20:40 Erasme wrote: So, once again, you don't have anything but a 'lost' usb and russian claims to back up yours ? You don't want to put don jr and Hunter side by side btw, it's really not the argument you think it is. One is a crybaby and a crook who loves being in the limelight fellating his father for an ounce of aknowledgment while the other ... benefitted from his fathers name ... and does coke and hookers ... Wait isn't that don jr still ? Not to belabor the subject, since it is apparently a sensitive one, but ill just respond to this USB stick point since people seem to think it is a slam dunk. The emails have been authenticated, and we know what they say. So it does not matter that at one point the emails were on a USB stick that got lost. The point of my "test" was just to show that if the parties were flipped, but the evidence was the same, I'll bet your conclusion would flip. User was warned for this post. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14208 Posts
On March 30 2022 02:17 lestye wrote: Yeah, I'll concede this. I don't know what kind of political calculus Biden is doing. Like is he in the pocket of the loan ppl? I have to hope that he'll be forced to do it before midterms, since thats the only big flashy thing he can do right now since Congress sucks. Hes in the pocket of the loan people insomuch as the economy is in the pocket of the big loan people. Student loans are the new mortgage for the stock market and is used to prop up a lot of investment banks margin trading. if that all suddenly gets paid out in cash to the holders by the government the market will go insane a bit. Not having interest on loans anymore seems like a compromise both sides could live with. restarting the payments are never going to happen as long as the democrats are in power. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Given that we've largely decided to ignore the national debt problem as a whole, I'm inclined to think Biden's desire to restart student loans is based primarily on boomer logic. Pausing loans like this was absolutely going to leave a mess in its wake but the cat's out of the bag now so you can't really just turn back. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24343 Posts
On March 30 2022 03:00 Zambrah wrote: I feel like the Democrats basically begged him to, he didnt really strike me as being all that interested in actually being president. Maybe a crowning jewel on a long and shitty political career, I guess? I don't take him for being all that invested in actually being president though. Also hes going to be over 80 by the time hes up for reelection so hopefully the US stops its streak of electing Oldest Ever Presidents. Even Democrats wanted someone besides Biden (he lost the first 3 primaries), they only rallied around him after it was clear no one else could stop Bernie. EDIT: Somewhat unrelated, Democrats have been steadily behind Republicans (Dems are typically ahead) for months on the generic congressional polls so it looks like Democrats are going to lose 2022 badly. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24343 Posts
On March 30 2022 03:33 lestye wrote: Yeah.... and my understanding was that people declaring bankruptcy like day 1 after graduation was a serious loophole back then. I get that. But yeah, hopefully he'll get desperate enough he'll keep his promise. Americans Will Always Do the Right Thing — After Exhausting All the Alternatives You should know that it was 2005 when Biden broke ranks to help Republicans pass the law that took away the ability to discharge private student loans through bankruptcy. I'm unclear on why you think it was a serious loophole back then? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24343 Posts
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lestye
United States4240 Posts
On March 30 2022 07:05 GreenHorizons wrote: You should know that it was 2005 when Biden broke ranks to help Republicans pass the law that took away the ability to discharge private student loans through bankruptcy. I'm unclear on why you think it was a serious loophole back then? Idk, my understanding was that a ton of students strategically declared bankruptcy right after graduating so thats one of the reasons why they amended it. I'm not sure if thats 1) accurate or 2) justification for the 1978, 1998 or 2005 changes to the Bankruptcy code. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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NewSunshine
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