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On January 03 2008 02:23 nA.Inky wrote:
Be careful with salvia, Hawk. If you get extract, a regular lighter will work for sure, but I suggest that you start with the weakest extract you can get and work up from there.
The worst experiences of my entire life were on salvia. It was so mind-bogglingly powerful, it made a heavy mushroom trip seem like absolutely nothing. It happens so fast and the change is so profound that you don't even realize you took a drug. 3 minutes feel like a lifetime. But I used the most powerful extract I could get. Don't be a fool like I was.
Also, be aware that salvia can cause a very real sensation of pain in the body for many users. I suspect it might have something to do with salvia acting on the part of the brain that deals with pain, rather than like typical alkaloid hallucinogens.
yea,,... i took the biggest hit i could out of a piece with 20x yesterday and im now scared to death to try it agian. i was just mind blown and like many others, i forgot i had even taken it until it wore off.
could someone please explain to me how u got a good salvia trip? what was it like?
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Yeah, i keep hearing about all this wild shit. I'm using low grade shit, that's prolly why. thx guys
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If you're using leaves you need a butane lighter, you need to have the lighter to the leaves the whole time while you draw the smoke into the bong/whatever, and you need to hold that hit in for as long as possible. Even still, of all my friends trying that, I was the only one who could trip off leaves only. They needed to use 5x extract at least to feel anything.
I had good trips by being completely naiive. I had read only good things and didn't even consider that I may have a bad trip. The number of bad trips I read about people having on Salvia is shocking to me. If I still did Salvia, I would probably have a bad trip just because of all these horror stories. But I think the reaction to Salvia is different in different people. I've seen videos of people babbling random shit and trying to move around, and laughing hysterically. I just laid down and basically went into a dream world for a few minutes.
I would start on a low extract (5x) or even leaves if you can trip on that (most people can't, but I did). Alternatively, when I got high first and then took Salvia, it was a milder effect. I still had visuals and weird thoughts, but I stayed conscious the whole time and didn't feel like laying down and didn't mind talking to people or listening to music. When I was just on Salvia I liked it quiet so I could concentrate better and not get pulled out of the trip. That might be a good way to ease yourself into it, but I don't know if that's a common effect or only happened to us.
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On January 03 2008 03:30 x_woof_x wrote:
yea,,... i took the biggest hit i could out of a piece with 20x yesterday and im now scared to death to try it agian. i was just mind blown and like many others, i forgot i had even taken it until it wore off.
could someone please explain to me how u got a good salvia trip? what was it like?
Sorry to hear that, Woof. A bad salvia trip is... well, about the worst thing one can experience. It has taken me over a year to even come close to coming to terms with my experience, and while I think I am mostly OK with what happened to me, I still get pangs of anxiety when I think about salvia (and it's been over 2 years now since I've done it.)
If you've had a bad experience with it, my personal feeling is that you should avoid using it again. I went back and did it a second time, and it was horrific - luckily the dose was less, though. The second time I did it, a friend of mine did it for the first time, and his experience was so bad he blocked it out, but suffered a few anxiety attacks at the slightest recall of it. I remember him moaning in pain as he went down on his side when it kicked in - seconds later it kicked in for me, and I stopped thinking about him.
See, the situation with salvia reflects the insanity of our drug war. You have far safer hallucinogens like psilocybin and mescaline which are illegal, and then you have extreme hallucinogens like salvia (possibly the strongest psychedelic there is, competing with smoked or injected DMT) that are totally legal. I'm not for prohibition of salvia use, but safer alternatives should be available - ie marijuana (many people buy salvia as a legal substitute for marijuana, and indeed it is often marketed that way.)
Something else weird is that many people hear the horror stories of salvia, and it makes them want to do it even more! So, keeping this in mind, my recommendation to anyone who wants to explore salvia is that they do it sublingually or smoke the plain leaves. If an extract is used, it should be the weakest. Better to not get off at all than to go mack trucking into salvia land.
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On January 03 2008 06:04 nA.Inky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2008 03:30 x_woof_x wrote:
yea,,... i took the biggest hit i could out of a piece with 20x yesterday and im now scared to death to try it agian. i was just mind blown and like many others, i forgot i had even taken it until it wore off.
could someone please explain to me how u got a good salvia trip? what was it like?
Sorry to hear that, Woof. A bad salvia trip is... well, about the worst thing one can experience.
Ever heard of n-n-dmt? Erowid it if not, it's the truth. Don't fuck around with it. (Note: NOT 5-meo-dmt)
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whoa, never heard of n-n-dmt lol but ive heard of 5meodmt
i dont know tho...im considering giving it a 2nd try with a smaller dose and like 5x prolly. If i enjoy it then i guess ill work my way up.
its amazing how a substance in a leaf can just shatter all reality
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On January 04 2008 18:25 x_woof_x wrote:
whoa, never heard of n-n-dmt lol but ive heard of 5meodmt
i dont know tho...im considering giving it a 2nd try with a smaller dose and like 5x prolly. If i enjoy it then i guess ill work my way up.
its amazing how a substance in a leaf can just shatter all reality
I didn't take time to read all the other post but if your talking about salvia you should try atleast 20x I tried that and I didn't really feel anything....(smoked it out of a bong)
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On January 04 2008 19:20 NoSkill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2008 18:25 x_woof_x wrote:
whoa, never heard of n-n-dmt lol but ive heard of 5meodmt
i dont know tho...im considering giving it a 2nd try with a smaller dose and like 5x prolly. If i enjoy it then i guess ill work my way up.
its amazing how a substance in a leaf can just shatter all reality I didn't take time to read all the other post but if your talking about salvia you should try atleast 20x I tried that and I didn't really feel anything....(smoked it out of a bong)
yea,,... i took the biggest hit i could out of a piece with 20x yesterday and im now scared to death to try it agian. i was just mind blown and like many others, i forgot i had even taken it until it wore off.
could someone please explain to me how u got a good salvia trip? what was it like?
thats the first post on this page
u prolly didnt light it the whole time u were hitting it and/or u didnt hold it in for that long. its got to reach a certain temperature
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hmmmmm special k ftw ;]]]]]]]
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im sitting on a chair
but it feels like im not
shit im hovering
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On January 04 2008 21:25 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
hmmmmm special k ftw ;]]]]]]]
Horse tranquilizer is not my idea of a "high".
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On January 05 2008 08:34 5HITCOMBO wrote:Horse tranquilizer is not my idea of a "high".
k-hole = no fun. once was more than enough for me.
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On January 05 2008 10:34 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2008 08:34 5HITCOMBO wrote:On January 04 2008 21:25 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
hmmmmm special k ftw ;]]]]]]] Horse tranquilizer is not my idea of a "high". k-hole = no fun. once was more than enough for me.
????? LOL what kind of special k do you have; we use cat tranquilizers here ;P they get you high as hell
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Noskill says: "I didn't take time to read all the other post but if your talking about salvia you should try atleast 20x I tried that and I didn't really feel anything....(smoked it out of a bong)"
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This is some of the absolute worst advice you can give. This is the peak of irresponsibility, and this is how you get people into really dangerous situations.
One of the first things anyone should know about drugs - and this goes for ALL drugs, d00ds! - drugs affect different people differently! You didn't get off on 20x? There are people that get off on the plain leaves!!!!
Your "advice" could send a sensitive first time user far beyond hell.
The correct procedure for using any new drug is to use the lowest active dose first. This is because you don't know yet whether you are sensitive or not. Best to err on the side of caution.
I was one of the idiots who started on x20 salvia, and unlike you, I did "get off" - so much so that I had to battle with intense anxiety and depression relating to my "trip" for over a year. And you know why I started with x20? Cause an irresponsible kid told me not to mess around with the weak stuff - go right for the strongest stuff! Yeah! Good idea!
To be fair, I was very irresponsible too - I should have done my own research.
I've learned! Please learn. Don't go around dosing other people, man. Dose yourself - and you should be more responsible about that, too, it sounds like.
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Personally, I don't like things that only inhibit my locomotion and senses. If it's going to make me slow, it better get me laid.
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last week was my first time getting high. i was freaking out when i was high cause i was so confused and i was worried that i'll always be so confused, so i took some notes while i was high. here they are.
"note to self. if you can't explain why vaporized weed is better than smoked weed, then you are still retarded." (i couldn't explain it while i was high. i kept trying but i kept losing my line of thought)
"i can't tell if i'm being funny or not because i don't understand what i just said"
"if alcohol acts as a diuretic and makes you urinate more, does it make you cum more too?"
me and my friends came to the conclusion that when u are high, u are more creative, but u are also too retarded to interpret ur own genius.
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Why am I eating carrots at 3 in the morning high?
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You're hungry because you're high and your body wants vitamin A so it's making the carrots taste really good.
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