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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 29 2016 19:12 GMT
#9181
No one wants to pay the costs for reducing emissions. Not easy to force people to do so either, which is why this issue developed in the first place.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 00:00:52
April 29 2016 23:59 GMT
#9182
On April 30 2016 04:06 Nyxisto wrote:
most effective and uncomplicated thing will be to drastically reduce meat consumption, agriculture is the biggest producer of greenhouse emissions already for this reason, but good luck convincing anybody to turn this into policies

During the war, the french changed the hours to reduce fossil fuel consumption ... We could just cut all energy except for public light during two or three hours each month at aroud 8 pm. Would be funny.

Or just increase tax on non environmental consumption.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 30 2016 00:12 GMT
#9183
Power plant startup is not exactly an environmentally friendly process. That's what happens when you shut off power for a plant for any amount of time, which is why they tend not to want to do it unless they absolutely need to.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
April 30 2016 00:19 GMT
#9184
On April 30 2016 09:12 LegalLord wrote:
Power plant startup is not exactly an environmentally friendly process. That's what happens when you shut off power for a plant for any amount of time, which is why they tend not to want to do it unless they absolutely need to.

Come on, don't critic my awesome idea with intelligent comment. Imagine a night every month with no technology, and all the girl you would be able to meet.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 30 2016 01:01 GMT
#9185
On April 30 2016 09:19 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2016 09:12 LegalLord wrote:
Power plant startup is not exactly an environmentally friendly process. That's what happens when you shut off power for a plant for any amount of time, which is why they tend not to want to do it unless they absolutely need to.

Come on, don't critic my awesome idea with intelligent comment. Imagine a night every month with no technology, and all the girl you would be able to meet.

Hard to argue against that, I guess we should do it then.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
lord_nibbler
Profile Joined March 2004
Germany591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 01:12:48
April 30 2016 01:12 GMT
#9186
On April 30 2016 09:19 WhiteDog wrote:
Imagine a night every month with no technology, and all the girl you would be able to meet.
Is it just me, or was this a pretty dark rape joke?

I have seen it in a report once, there are actually some villages and suburbs here where the major thinks he is clever with saving money by turning off the street lights after midnight. And then they act all surprised when they do not get reelected because break-in stats tripled...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 30 2016 03:17 GMT
#9187
WASHINGTON — The United States did not pressure Germany more heavily to give Greece debt relief because it needed Germany’s cooperation in higher-priority foreign policy matters, according to a former Greek finance minister.

Yanis Varoufakis, the ex-cabinet official who became famous as the face of Greek defiance in the first half of 2015, said the United States, like the International Monetary Fund, believed Greece’s European creditors must provide the country with debt relief if it was ever to regain financial independence. High-ranking officials in Germany, which is Greece’s largest sovereign lender, remain reluctant to reduce the Mediterranean nation’s debts.

But Varoufakis said the United States ultimately did little to back its views by putting pressure on Germany.

“They would occasionally offer a kind comment about the need for debt restructure, but beyond that, absolutely, radically nothing,” he said. “And that has not changed.”

Varoufakis, a prolific and outspoken progressive economist, was in Washington on Wednesday to promote his new book, And The Weak Suffer What They Must? Europe’s Crisis And America’s Economic Future. Since resigning under pressure in July, Varoufakis has founded the Democracy in Europe Movement 2025, a left-leaning initiative promoting a more democratic European Union.

He argued on Wednesday that the United States’ inaction on Greece stemmed from a belief that Greece was “in the sphere of influence of Germany.”

“I believe that the United States delineated different problems in the European periphery and decided to put all its eggs in other baskets and not in any basket that contained Greece or the eurozone,” he added.

Intervening was not worth the risk of jeopardizing German unity with the U.S. against Russian meddling in Ukraine, as well as collaboration on the U.S.’s agenda in Libya and Syria, according to the ex-finance minister.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 03:29:58
April 30 2016 03:26 GMT
#9188
Varoufakis is such a snake oil salesman lol, promise unrealistic stuff, throw your country months back and then go on book tour in the United States
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 11:34:08
April 30 2016 11:32 GMT
#9189
On April 30 2016 10:12 lord_nibbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2016 09:19 WhiteDog wrote:
Imagine a night every month with no technology, and all the girl you would be able to meet.
Is it just me, or was this a pretty dark rape joke?

I have seen it in a report once, there are actually some villages and suburbs here where the major thinks he is clever with saving money by turning off the street lights after midnight. And then they act all surprised when they do not get reelected because break-in stats tripled...

No I said cut everything but public light ... Come on, rape can't be funny.
Yeah, in most "banlieue" near Paris, the lights are cut at night in certain part of the city for budgetary reasons.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 30 2016 11:43 GMT
#9190
On April 29 2016 06:34 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
There's nothing hypocritical about being anti nuclear as long as long as youa re happy about fossil fuels. Isn't the main problem with nuclear power is the cost over it's lifetime? Nuclear power has never been cheap and in fact many governments only have nuclear power plants as a way to produce the fissile materials for nuclear warheads.

You're right, at current consumption levels, fossil fuels have no over a lifetime costs.

Sorry, normally you are derangedly passive aggressive, so I have no idea if you are agreeing with me or not.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
April 30 2016 12:41 GMT
#9191
On April 30 2016 20:43 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 06:34 WhiteDog wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
There's nothing hypocritical about being anti nuclear as long as long as youa re happy about fossil fuels. Isn't the main problem with nuclear power is the cost over it's lifetime? Nuclear power has never been cheap and in fact many governments only have nuclear power plants as a way to produce the fissile materials for nuclear warheads.

You're right, at current consumption levels, fossil fuels have no over a lifetime costs.

Sorry, normally you are derangedly passive aggressive, so I have no idea if you are agreeing with me or not.

Not my fault, I'm french.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
April 30 2016 14:09 GMT
#9192
On April 30 2016 21:41 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2016 20:43 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:34 WhiteDog wrote:
On April 29 2016 06:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
There's nothing hypocritical about being anti nuclear as long as long as youa re happy about fossil fuels. Isn't the main problem with nuclear power is the cost over it's lifetime? Nuclear power has never been cheap and in fact many governments only have nuclear power plants as a way to produce the fissile materials for nuclear warheads.

You're right, at current consumption levels, fossil fuels have no over a lifetime costs.

Sorry, normally you are derangedly passive aggressive, so I have no idea if you are agreeing with me or not.

Not my fault, I'm french.


Blue/white striped sweater, black scarf, red beret - in one hand a baguette, in the other a cigarette, and a fancy snotstopper/stache?

On track to MA1950A.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 30 2016 14:42 GMT
#9193
the current model for radiation risk followed by regulators (at least in the u.s., french may have a different thing) only cares about cumulative dosage with some linear conversion between the different radiation types. it's pretty rich to want some nuance on the radiation release of coal when no such nuance is being applied to nucular power.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-01 18:00:43
May 01 2016 17:55 GMT
#9194
The shit is real in France. Black bloc ("les totos") doing their thing, cops doing theirs, everything heating up since the last two or three manifestation. It's funny as hell, altho not very productive.

https://www.facebook.com/670444518/videos/10154091547929519/
http://hanslucas.com/sguillemin/photo/7090
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
May 01 2016 18:02 GMT
#9195
What is happening again?

Happy birthday.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-01 19:01:47
May 01 2016 18:06 GMT
#9196
On May 02 2016 03:02 RvB wrote:
What is happening again?

Happy birthday.

It's the 1rst of May so people are (were, it's over now) in the street, but due to the recent event (Nuit Debout, loi El Khomri on labor) there are a lot of black bloc and various leftist that were hot yesterday night, all saying, on facebook and elsewhere, that they would come to "make a feast" for the 1rst of may. And the police is full of shitheads (especially the BAC, brigade anti criminalité) who likes to hit for no reason, so there's shitheads on both side. And shitheads got to do what shitheads got to do.

Maybe I'm not clear enough, black bloc are independants that comes to manifestations to make a mess. They even come with tools and start to pickaxe the street to take part of it to throw it to the cops.

Thanks.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
May 01 2016 19:18 GMT
#9197
On May 02 2016 02:55 WhiteDog wrote:
The shit is real in France. Black bloc ("les totos") doing their thing, cops doing theirs, everything heating up since the last two or three manifestation. It's funny as hell, altho not very productive.

https://www.facebook.com/670444518/videos/10154091547929519/
http://hanslucas.com/sguillemin/photo/7090

Happy birthday, man!
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-01 20:51:57
May 01 2016 20:27 GMT
#9198
On May 02 2016 04:18 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2016 02:55 WhiteDog wrote:
The shit is real in France. Black bloc ("les totos") doing their thing, cops doing theirs, everything heating up since the last two or three manifestation. It's funny as hell, altho not very productive.

https://www.facebook.com/670444518/videos/10154091547929519/
http://hanslucas.com/sguillemin/photo/7090

Happy birthday, man!

Thanks buddy.

The rumble between the police and the black bloc is still going on in paris apparently, near Nuit Debout (place de la république). The media is making it seem like the responsable are the black bloc, but in reality the police showed autoritarism way too fast, way too hard days ago, most notably beating innocents, to the point that some people (on guy in Rennes, and apparently two others with one being in surgery right now) lost an eye due to "flashball" (weapon below). It's normally forbidden to fire such weapon above the belt, but some cops don't care about.

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"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Banaora
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany234 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-02 09:06:30
May 02 2016 05:14 GMT
#9199
For anyone who is interested in TTIP, greenpeace.nl said they are going to publish the document at 11 o'clock in the morning.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/press/releases/2016/Leaked-TTIP-documents-confirm-major-risks-for-climate-environment-and-consumer-safety/

Update: Here they are http://ttip-leaks.org/
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
May 02 2016 14:01 GMT
#9200
On May 02 2016 14:14 Banaora wrote:
For anyone who is interested in TTIP, greenpeace.nl said they are going to publish the document at 11 o'clock in the morning.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/press/releases/2016/Leaked-TTIP-documents-confirm-major-risks-for-climate-environment-and-consumer-safety/

Update: Here they are http://ttip-leaks.org/


If this TTIP thing goes through I think the people should choose/ seriously think about violent methods to get rid of their leaders. The secrecy, the leaked information just look like the thing is a power transfer from people to economy and is threatening to cut into our rights guaranteed by our respective constitutions.
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