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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10000 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 14:27:28
April 22 2014 14:23 GMT
#881
Whereabouts in Wales?
Casual racism is honestly all over the place in the UK, and although i'm not overly familiar with Wales i would assume its the same there. Its been that way for years though.
There is a general feeling that our country is too full (??????) though, ridiculous as it sounds.
As bad as that sounds, you're very unlikely to be attacked in the street and you will probably be treated just like everyone else by 99.99% of people. Britishness itself dictates that most of our racists stop being racist in the presence of foreign people, and only do it in the company of their best friends/family.
My advice would simply be to make friends with the locals, and you'll be fine.


edit:
Of course, if you are living with other students, in a student area, you probably won't ever see any of that stuff, because no-one from the EDL or any of those groups are educated at higher education level.
RIP Meatloaf <3
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 02:31:52
April 26 2014 02:30 GMT
#882
TIL that Brits consider Irish to be foreigners.

Ukip's now infamous poster of an unemployed British builder is actually a picture of a foreign worker, it has been revealed.

Social media users have identified the man in the Ukip poster as Irish actor Dave O'Rourke.

O'Rourke's Star Now profile lists him as "originally from Dublin, living in the UK 10 years".

It says he is "currently acting full time and looking to build my portfolio... hard working and fully committed to a role and my character to give the best performance I can deliver."


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
April 26 2014 03:32 GMT
#883
They probably mean southern ireland that isn't apart of the empire anymore. canadians would be considered in the same way probably in america. Bronation what what.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44335 Posts
April 26 2014 04:30 GMT
#884
On April 26 2014 11:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
TIL that Brits consider Irish to be foreigners.

Show nested quote +
Ukip's now infamous poster of an unemployed British builder is actually a picture of a foreign worker, it has been revealed.

Social media users have identified the man in the Ukip poster as Irish actor Dave O'Rourke.

O'Rourke's Star Now profile lists him as "originally from Dublin, living in the UK 10 years".

It says he is "currently acting full time and looking to build my portfolio... hard working and fully committed to a role and my character to give the best performance I can deliver."


Source

It's not about us, the Irish were really quite insistent on the point that they weren't British.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
April 27 2014 14:10 GMT
#885
On April 26 2014 11:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
TIL that Brits consider Irish to be foreigners.

Show nested quote +
Ukip's now infamous poster of an unemployed British builder is actually a picture of a foreign worker, it has been revealed.

Social media users have identified the man in the Ukip poster as Irish actor Dave O'Rourke.

O'Rourke's Star Now profile lists him as "originally from Dublin, living in the UK 10 years".

It says he is "currently acting full time and looking to build my portfolio... hard working and fully committed to a role and my character to give the best performance I can deliver."


Source

The Republic of Ireland is a foreign country though.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 28 2014 00:30 GMT
#886
So does this mean UKIP are actually front runners now?

Labour's lead has been pegged back to just two points in the latest Opinium/Observer poll as Ukip appears to be draining support from all of the three other main parties.

Ed Miliband's party has dropped back by two points to 34%, the level to which it fell after the March budget and its lowest score since late 2010, while the Tories have climbed two to 32%.

With the economy improving the Tories would, however, be hoping to aim for higher levels of support.

Ukip, despite a bad week of publicity over its advertising campaigns for the European election and its expenses, has remained unchanged since a fortnight ago on 18%.


Source


Senior Liberal Democrats have privately been warned that the party could be left with no MEPs after next month’s European Parliament elections.

Senior party figures were warned that the party’s electoral unpopularity meant that the party was facing seeing its 11 MEPs lose all their seats.

The warning came at a meeting of the party's hierarchy including Lord Ashdown, the former party leader who is coordinating the party’s election campaign.

Numbered briefing documents were handed out at the meeting, which warned that no MEPs after the election was now a realistic option.

The party looks set to do much worse than in the same polls in 2009, when it was left with 11 MEPs and won 2.1million votes or 14 per cent of the vote.

One insider told The Daily Telegraph “it is looking like an absolute bloodbath”.

Party sources are warning of a “cratering” of support across the country, with the vote in the East Midlands, for example, forecast to fall from 130,000 to 13,000.


Source
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10000 Posts
April 30 2014 22:05 GMT
#887
Here it is, the moment we've all been waiting for...

Da, da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Its the BNP party political broadcast.



What a disgrace.
RIP Meatloaf <3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44335 Posts
April 30 2014 23:08 GMT
#888
Wtf, that random capital punishment aside.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 01 2014 11:48 GMT
#889
is that meant to be a parody or something
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10000 Posts
May 01 2014 12:37 GMT
#890
On May 01 2014 20:48 oneofthem wrote:
is that meant to be a parody or something

No its from the official BNP youtube page.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
May 01 2014 15:08 GMT
#891
that scared the crap out of me. Do these guys actually get votes?
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 15:19:18
May 01 2014 15:15 GMT
#892
On May 02 2014 00:08 Nyxisto wrote:
that scared the crap out of me. Do these guys actually get votes?

Not many, I was surprised to learn the other day that they actually have an MEP. I think they have two local councillors in the whole of the UK too.

They got 563,743 votes in the 2010 general election but failed to win a single seat.

edit: holy shit post #6000, I'm now a Valkyrie
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 07 2014 18:45 GMT
#893
PMQ Time

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Joel-E
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom50 Posts
May 08 2014 15:26 GMT
#894
I don't like cameron, clegg or milliband. But honestly, If I had to choose i would rather have cameron as pm. I mean I would prefer it if nigel farage were with UKIP, but realistically, thats near impossible in 2015. Just hope they get enough seats to actually effect parliamentary voting. Milliband just seams to live in a dream world to me. I just think they things that he spews out is complete nonsense. Can't trust the lefties after what blair and brown did.
SC2 eu tag: Churchill#727
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
May 08 2014 15:33 GMT
#895
I don't want to come off as condescending but what is going on with the ukip votes? Their manifesto looks ridiculous. "foreigners are stealing our jerbs", "the EU is a dictatorship", "let's get rid of all the taxes" and "Romanians are stealing all our stuff". Are people really buying this crap in the UK?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44335 Posts
May 08 2014 15:38 GMT
#896
EU isn't exactly democratic, at least not directly, and there has never been a vote about whether to join it in the UK. It was formed through treaties and the PM has the power to make treaties on his own authority in our system due to it being a royal prerogative power. Like it or not there is absolutely an issue of sovereignty and democracy here.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 15:53:54
May 08 2014 15:51 GMT
#897
Sure, but it's not like the EU is taking away your personal freedom or anything. If anything many policies the EU has put in place are far more consumer friendly than what national governments usually do.(especially the UK has a tradition of not being very generous in the social department). I don't know what that 'independence' is the Ukip promises the voters, but for me it just sounds like an emotional appeal so they can get rid of all these pesky regulations and introduce ridiculous business friendly policies. Also their health policy sounds like they want to get rid of the NHS and privatize the healthcare sector, yeah that sounds great!
Joel-E
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom50 Posts
May 08 2014 15:54 GMT
#898
On May 09 2014 00:33 Nyxisto wrote:
I don't want to come off as condescending but what is going on with the ukip votes? Their manifesto looks ridiculous. "foreigners are stealing our jerbs", "the EU is a dictatorship", "let's get rid of all the taxes" and "Romanians are stealing all our stuff". Are people really buying this crap in the UK?


Just simply false. UKIP's manifesto says that their is an overcrowding in the unskilled labour market. Which is completely true. This overcrowding of the labour market means that it drives down wages. It does not blame it on foreigners. Like a chap said somewhere, their manifesto also does NOT say that the EU is a dictatorship. It says it's undemocratic, which it IS. It says to simplify taxes, by implementing flat tax. Not to remove it altogether. And it doesn't say that romanians are stealing our stuff. It says that the level of immigration coming into the UK is way too high. Which again, it is. Please, I don't mind a party being criticised on their people or policies. But please actually read what it says instead of listening to what the left media want you to think.
SC2 eu tag: Churchill#727
Joel-E
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom50 Posts
May 08 2014 15:58 GMT
#899
Oh and just for the record, Nyxisto, the reason German and French mainstream parties oppose UKIP and other euro-sceptic parties is because that they know that if Britain leave, then Germany and France will follow. Without britain it's simply not worth to stay in. Also, If germany and france left, britain would follow, without Britain, france and germany, the EU is nothing.
SC2 eu tag: Churchill#727
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 16:04:45
May 08 2014 16:00 GMT
#900
On May 08 2014 03:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
PMQ Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8cNF7dl7Cs

What the hell is going on in this video ? Why are they standing up every second for no reason ? British democracy seems pretty lively, I like it.

On May 09 2014 00:58 Joel-E wrote:
Oh and just for the record, Nyxisto, the reason German and French mainstream parties oppose UKIP and other euro-sceptic parties is because that they know that if Britain leave, then Germany and France will follow. Without britain it's simply not worth to stay in. Also, If germany and france left, britain would follow, without Britain, france and germany, the EU is nothing.

German I don't know, but french well we already voted against the Lisbon treaty but nobody cared.
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