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The similarminds and humanmetrics tests gave me INTJ results but I understand why internet tests can be inaccurate.
One set of my results was pretty balanced overall and the other had more schewed results.
Personally, I think it's far more interesting discussing your experiences than simply claiming a particular 'type' because some tests ascribed it to you. I imagine people who've been ascribed the INTJ personality type differ from me in a variety of ways (e.g. our reasons for approaching, or not approaching, various social interactions and philosophical vs scientific minds) but such nuances aren't brought out in simply stating a four letter acronym.
On December 22 2012 14:30 Whitewing wrote:
Looks like I'm an INTJ. Hardly anyone in my life (apart from my father) actually understands me particularly well.
I can definitely relate to this but I've never seen it as a bad thing. My relationship with my father is quite unique and I've never really been concerned with people understanding me or not.
At the OP: Your post is well written and compiled but there is actually nobody named as 'Buddha'. Guatama was the man and 'The Buddha' is a title. The 'person' people generally call 'Buddha' should actually be named 'The Buddha'.
Source: I'm a student of Indian philosophy.
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I've been thinking about my own introversion for a long time and I have come to the conclusion that people cannot be divided into introvert and extrovert. There are very few people that I have met in my life that can be considered extroverted, at least the way that this thread describes them. I have met maybe 2-3 people that genuinely cannot handle their own thoughts and have to be around people all the time. Most people seem to be somewhere in the middle. I used to think I was severely introverted, but then I realized that I am not anxious at all about social gatherings/talking to people or whatever. But I do prefer to be alone, or with my closest friends. I honestly don't see any reason to put a label on that. This whole putting introverts on a pedestal seems to be a product of the fact that a LOT of people have suddenly become nerds/gamers and thus haven't practiced their socials skills as much as other people.
The fact that people like outgoing or "extroverted" people is because they often make others feel good about themselves. Everyone needs human contact, even the so called introverts This isn't a problem with society, it's just the way human beings work.
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On December 23 2012 00:17 Barrin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 09:23 Deleuze wrote:
Hmm, I'm not so sure about these personality tests, are they aimed at non-Neurotypicals? I'm currently undergoing diagnosis for Autism and have been warned against these kinds of test - from reading them briefly it is fairly clear what the 'correct' answers are in order for you to obtain the personality trait that supports your self image. This seems true to me. Show nested quote +I find people attempting to eulogize and appropriate historical figures into their personality type deeply egotistical. I don't know why people are draw to this kind of reinforcement in this way.
If this works for you that's great of course, I'm heavily introverted in my approach to life, but I don't need a test to tell me this nor a psychological theory to enable me to cope with my personality.
Sorry, Xmas is here and I'm feeling cynical. No, but a lot of introverts feel very alone and unable to connect with anyone... this thread is supposed to show them that there are a lot of other people out there who feel the same way.
You could exchange the word introverts with gamers or nerds. Because that is basically what we're talking about here.
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On December 23 2012 00:24 Animzor wrote:
I've been thinking about my own introversion for a long time and I have come to the conclusion that people cannot be divided into introvert and extrovert. There are very few people that I have met in my life that can be considered extroverted, at least the way that this thread describes them. I have met maybe 2-3 people that genuinely cannot handle their own thoughts and have to be around people all the time. Most people seem to be somewhere in the middle. I used to think I was severely introverted, but then I realized that I am not anxious at all about social gatherings/talking to people or whatever. But I do prefer to be alone, or with my closest friends. I honestly don't see any reason to put a label on that. This whole putting introverts on a pedestal seems to be a product of the fact that a LOT of people have suddenly become nerds/gamers and thus haven't practiced their socials skills as much as other people.
The fact that people like outgoing or "extroverted" people is because they often make others feel good about themselves. Everyone needs human contact, even the so called introverts This isn't a problem with society, it's just the way human beings work.
Everyone is introverted AND extroverted to some degree. Most people are more extroverted than introverted, while there are a decent amount of people who are more introverted than extroverted.
Hardly anyone is purely extroverted.
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INTJ here, and great write up Barrin. I actually just finished Quiet by Susan Cain, and it really helped me understand a few more things about where I am at currently (the term young professional may apply). Being aware of your introverted/extroverted tendencies is a huge help in day to day business for me.
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Very interesting OP, thanks a lot.
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On December 23 2012 00:38 Barrin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 12:18 ampson wrote:On December 22 2012 12:16 Cheerio wrote:On December 22 2012 09:54 ampson wrote:
First off, that is a terribly obnoxious way to format the first post. A line between each quote and famous introvert? You could at least have spoilered that stuff and made it easier to read. It's a nice post detailing a certain type of personality according to a certain person, but I feel like it is promoting the use of creating a label for oneself to better your self esteem. Nobody needs to know that they're a (insert 4 letters here) and that they have all of the traits that somebody says that personality type has and that that makes them a special snowflake. I like to keep people out of boxes and take them for what they are. I'm sure that everyone has qualities from every "personality type" and just because someone is an INTJ doesn't mean they are a "Silent leader."
I also don't get why you feel like introverts are seen as less valuable by society. Your "problem" is that being outgoing and having social successes is considered to be a good thing by society. That's not a problem at all. Why should we think that social situations are a bad thing? Nobody can help the fact that someone who is insecure with themselves might feel pressured to do what other people do. That's just something that people have to live with and get over, and I suppose that kind of person can be helped by all this introvert pride stuff in the OP. The OP is certainly useful at addressing the problem, but that problem lies within someone who is not self-assured enough to not do what extroverts want to do. Society can't help that. And you may not realize it, but some of those videos/interviews reek of condescension. Are you saying that introverts want to be extroverts but cant due to some kind of inferiority complex? I'm saying that introverts who lack confidence in themselves will imitate extroverts, because extroverts are naturally more visible in social situations. According to the OP, this is a problem. But as I said, it isn't society's problem. Bullshit it's not society's problem. Introverts tend to be extremely capable people, keep oppressing them and you only stifle progress. Let me guess, you didn't watch Susan Cain's TED talk. + Show Spoiler +
i find it hypocritical that an introverted person such as her thinks introverts are 'disadvantaged in this extroverted society because of who they are' when she is a harvard law graduate.
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On December 23 2012 00:24 Animzor wrote:
I've been thinking about my own introversion for a long time and I have come to the conclusion that people cannot be divided into introvert and extrovert. There are very few people that I have met in my life that can be considered extroverted, at least the way that this thread describes them. I have met maybe 2-3 people that genuinely cannot handle their own thoughts and have to be around people all the time. Most people seem to be somewhere in the middle. I used to think I was severely introverted, but then I realized that I am not anxious at all about social gatherings/talking to people or whatever. But I do prefer to be alone, or with my closest friends. I honestly don't see any reason to put a label on that. This whole putting introverts on a pedestal seems to be a product of the fact that a LOT of people have suddenly become nerds/gamers and thus haven't practiced their socials skills as much as other people.
The fact that people like outgoing or "extroverted" people is because they often make others feel good about themselves. Everyone needs human contact, even the so called introverts This isn't a problem with society, it's just the way human beings work.
I agree a 100 percent. I enjoy and want solitude probably more than the average guy and mostly don't talk a lot, but I also sometimes enjoy small talk and "interacting for the sake of interacting" (interacting with others is a basic human need) and even being the center of attention every once in a while.
What good do those labels do? IQ is being good at what IQ tests measure. Same here. If you're happy with your life, fine, if not, you don't need a theory that explains why this is meant to be but you need to find out how to change it. And being sociable isn't rocket science. Experience plays a huge role. Going to a party after you've been on your own for five days will always feel awkward. But make a point of chatting with someone every day (random strangers, colleagues, whoever, doesn't matter), and the whole world changes very fast. We're always bad at what we don't have experience with. Sure, it's unhealthy if we all feel we have to be the life of the party all the time, but it's also unhealthy to make people believe they're irrevocably put in categories by nature or fate when those categories are in fact made up by psychologists based on commonsense stereotypes. You're not bound by what psychologists make of you in any way.
Some food for thought:
... there is the dogmatism of subject-predicate language structure that is often presented under the guise of objectivity. According to this dogmatism, when I say that Professor Lindzey‘s left shoe is an „introvert,“ everyone looks at his shoe as if this were something his shoe was responsible for. Or if I say that Professor Cattell‘s head is „discursive,“ everyone looks over to him, as if the proposition had popped out of his head instead of out of mine. Don‘t look at his head! Don‘t look at his shoe! Look at me; I‘m the one who is responsible for the statement. After you figure out what I mean you can look over there to see if you make any sense out of shoes and heads by construing them the way I do. -- George A. Kelly
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I just took the test and I am an INTJ, which makes sense
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Took one personsality test in person and 4 others online scored INTJ 4 times and INTP.
Seems like a lot of TL are INTJ O.O. Would be interesting to know what % is which personality type.
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I bet most people here are INTJ, including myself.
Funny thing is that I work as a card dealer in a casino... not exactly a introverted lifestyle.
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I'm going to say this is silly. Just because, I've been an introvert, and guess what? It's not good. You SHOULD be confident. That's all it comes down to, and it's something you need to learn in life. Just because sociality encourages this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Train yourself to be more confident. Go out there and make your voice heard.
"personality type" is bullshit. Be what you wanna be, dont take one of those tests and let yourself be labelled and defined. All it's going to do is box you in.
All it takes is a little confidence that we should all have.
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I agree with others posting here that the OP is silly and possibly insulting. Just say something if you want to say something and you've got something to say.... it's as a general rule, always better to do something than to not do something. Especially in this life... "if ima die, whether or not I try: I might as well let the dice fly"
I'm sorry because I know I sound stupid but ever since I did psychology GCSE, I've thought that extrovert/introverted theory is just complete and total bullshit. Peoples personalities are a construct of everything, experience, knowledge, emotion, thoughts... someone can be introverted when they're depressed or extroverted when they're happy. The former can cause the latter for vice versa. Maybe like me, they just grow up a little and learn a little more, become more happy and change completely? It's a ludicrous oversimplification of a human being and the human condition to label people as one or the other.
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Turns out I'm an ESTP.
Still think it's pretty much a load as defining someones personality like this is probably impossible. Then again, I also think IQ tests are pretty much a load.
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On December 23 2012 02:55 WTFZerg wrote:
Turns out I'm an ESTP.
Still think it's pretty much a load as defining someones personality like this is probably impossible. Then again, I also think IQ tests are pretty much a load.
^ Exactly. You can't label a human is either something or something else, the personality is the varying visible side to the most complicated combination of thoughts, experience, genetics and emotions imaginable. A personality test like these are pointless.
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Interesting topic. Any guide on how to turn business meetings/conferences into a win as a introvert? After all, these are largely for networking and can be very important for your career, while I think the set up gives extroverts a clear edge.
Regards
Chili
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