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MarKoNiO
Peru888 Posts
http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_3482712 | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
hopefully it will be safe, and more importantly, work only time will tell | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28789 Posts
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
however, the fact that it is one drug vs 25 leads me to believe that, even if it is an extremely expensive drug, it will still be cheaper than current treatment methods | ||
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
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DaZe
Sweden2111 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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MarKoNiO
Peru888 Posts
Only time will tell, that`s sure. | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
how do you think prices stay up in the US? an advance like this wouldn't get held up for long if the public got wind of it the pharmaceutical companies have tremendous lobbying power, which is probably a good thing for the general health of the people the only barrier i can see is the FDA really, and the only way they'll hold it up is if it's unsafe, in which case it shouldn't be administered anyway what good is a drug that cures HIV but kills you? in that mindset, the bullet is a good cure for HIV as well | ||
pheer
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MarKoNiO
Peru888 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:07 pheer wrote: When this comes out I'm going to have sex ROFL, use condoms and have sex right away man !! | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
Sorry for offtopic, do you guys get different sizes condoms where you live? Anything that isn't so restricting at least? I guess I'm just really sensitive or something. Or maybe I'm really really thick, who knows. Please help.  | ||
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
that's it, this thread has reached the threshold for stupid posts 1) condoms are an effective method of preventing HIV 2) using condoms has other benefits besides preventing HIV, such as preventing the myriad of other STD's that are out there which you don't want to be getting, not to mention relatively effective at preventing pregnancy 3) if you don't know how to use condoms, learn, or get a regular partner that is clean so you wont have to worry about it 4) what the fuck guys, seriously. | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
so unless you are an elephant, the only thing that's thick is your skull | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36399 Posts
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MarKoNiO
Peru888 Posts
That doesen`t mean you can go an fuck everyone you want without a condom -__- ;; | ||
Liquid`Spy
Netherlands1301 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:25 Hot_Bid wrote: its like saying hey, because we can do eye transplants now might as well go around burning my retinas true, except that burning our retina's hurts like hell instead of giving lots of pleasure and that the chance of fucking yourself up are 100% instead of like 1%(?) but for the rest... yeah exactly the same  Great news btw, but I'm still a bit sceptic, let's see how it turns out. | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
worst news ive heard in my entire life fuck. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Future_sc
United States783 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:07 pheer wrote: When this comes out I'm going to have sex haha u might have to wait a while=p | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Passion
Netherlands1486 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:54 Gryffindor_us wrote: Condomless sex? Hello Herpes? -_- you obviously didnt read the article... this stuff cures herpes to! if this is true and as good as it sounds... jeej :D | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On February 09 2006 11:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: i really hope they have found a cure. Ive read so many news reports like this and it turns out to not be a cure but rather a new method of treating it.. would be nice to have something to stop this ailment. youd feel a lot more comfortable taking it up yur bum ey! | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
well, I think it was somethign like 1 out of every 5 pple in the United States at least, have some form of STD's. Unprotected sex is never really safe. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On February 09 2006 11:16 Raidern wrote: well I think that if they really wanted to, the cure for AIDS/HIV would already have been discovered.. Do you really believe that? The conpiracy theories never cease, do they. It's very well funded, probably one of the most well funded branches in medicin. The problem is that it attackes the very immune system which is supposed to deal with illnesses, hence there's no easy way to cure it. Also, viruses mutate, and are very hard to kill and are not classified as "alive". Most cures of this type relies on vaccines, where you get a non-dangerous amount of the disease itself, or a toned down disease that the immune system will recognize as the real disease, and then your immune system will develop antibodies for it. Now if we want a vaccin for aids, we have to give ourself a dose of hiv in the same manner, but since this disease is so dangerous, the risk is still too great you'll end upp getting aids instead of developing antibodies that can handle it. Also, you can only be vaccinated against a disease you don't have, hence why would you want to risk getting aids if you don't have it, and of course it would be useless if you already had aids in the first place. Well, I guess it's a good thing they're about too find a cure, but diseases also have a place in the ecosystem as population regulators. Oh well. Medic fighting! | ||
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proTOSS[GER]
858 Posts
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
On February 09 2006 09:48 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote: wow, condomless sex again? HIV isn't the only STD | ||
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[angst]chraej
1445 Posts
but...i guess its good for the other half who were born that way etc | ||
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CCHS
United States614 Posts
On February 09 2006 09:48 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote: YAY lol. wow, condomless sex again? | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
On February 09 2006 11:16 Raidern wrote: well I think that if they really wanted to, the cure for AIDS/HIV would already have been discovered.. No, because the company that would end up distributing the AIDs cure would make so much fucking money. | ||
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bburn
United States1039 Posts
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 09 2006 13:33 [angst]chraej wrote: SCREW THAT, wtf??? cure cancer you morons! half the people with HIV just cant stop having sex, its THEIR FAULT but...i guess its good for the other half who were born that way etc Are you retarded? I mean, no offense, but there's people working on that too.. | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On February 09 2006 13:33 [angst]chraej wrote: SCREW THAT, wtf??? cure cancer you morons! half the people with HIV just cant stop having sex, its THEIR FAULT but...i guess its good for the other half who were born that way etc Some people are more liable to get cancer due to inheritance, and then there's the random freak occurance type of cancer. It would actually be kind of bad to find a cure for all these "born that way" type of diseases from an evolutionary perspective. I mean already we've reached the point where being diabetic is not anything unusual. If they aim to fix all inheritable diseases, then those people's children will get it and so on. In the end, how much medication and treatment would be considered acceptable to receive? It costs money, and you'd also be very restricted as an individual if you relied on lots of medication and checkups just to live. - unless medicin goes so far as to erase those diseases from our genes, like tampering with the feutuses, and that's another hairy topic. I'm not taking any stand personally though for or against these things, just pointing it out for the sake of debate if any be so inclined. | ||
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RuNei
United States30 Posts
P.S. Does anyone know someone who actually has aids? I don't know a single person out of everyone ive met my entire life who does (or knows about it rather). I think that the people i know are either very unaware, or the government made up Aids. -.- | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On February 09 2006 09:27 MarKoNiO wrote: Researchers, including a BYU scientist, believe they have found a new compound that could finally kill the HIV/AIDS virus, not just slow it down as current treatments do. http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_3482712 "Assuming continued positive test results in animal and eventual human trials, Porter estimates it could be three to seven years before the compound is available by prescription. " This article is just saying that these compounds show promise. They haven't even started tests in human, so to think of this as a "cure" is way, way, too premature. Also HIV and AIDS are different things. HIV = Human Immunodeficiency Virus AIDS = Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome So it article wasn't completely correct to say "the HIV/AIDS virus" | ||
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greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
On February 09 2006 16:49 RuNei wrote: The government isnt going to let them release it reguardless, with how much money they make off of this alleged "Aids Funding". Besides, they want us all to live in fear! P.S. Does anyone know someone who actually has aids? I don't know a single person out of everyone ive met my entire life who does (or knows about it rather). I think that the people i know are either very unaware, or the government made up Aids. -.- you're a fucking moron, just because u don't know anyone who has it doesn't mean that 'the government made up aids' a lot of people have it actually, and its rising | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On February 09 2006 17:07 ml1710 wrote: "Assuming continued positive test results in animal and eventual human trials, Porter estimates it could be three to seven years before the compound is available by prescription. " This article is just saying that these compounds show promise. They haven't even started tests in human, so to think of this as a "cure" is way, way, too premature. Also HIV and AIDS are different things. HIV = Human Immunodeficiency Virus AIDS = Acquired ImmunoDeficiency Syndrome So it article wasn't completely correct to say "the HIV/AIDS virus" HIV and AIDS really aren't different things, you're declared to have AIDS when HIV drops your immune system to an arbitrarily low number. | ||
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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pansy
United States309 Posts
On February 09 2006 22:00 OhThatDang wrote: what happens when everyone starts having sex and have babies w/ no aids and then we overpopulate?! WW3 or maybe a new strand of super mutated HIV/AIDS immune to this type of cure | ||
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alphaentity
United States525 Posts
I heard this while i was an intern at Roche Somehow this reminds me of johnny pneumonic? i forget the name...but the movie is about a cure for some virus that the government hides cause treatment is more profitable than cure....haha, dunno why, but that just popped into my mind | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On February 09 2006 21:36 nova_442 wrote: HIV and AIDS really aren't different things, you're declared to have AIDS when HIV drops your immune system to an arbitrarily low number. Yes they are. HIV is a virus while AIDS is the disease that is (usually) caused by this virus. You can be infected by the virus and still not have AIDS, and you can in rare cases have AIDS but not through the HIV. You have AIDS "when the CD4 count goes below 200 (from a normal count of 1,000)" so it isn't an arbitrary number. | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
On February 09 2006 16:49 RuNei wrote: The government isnt going to let them release it reguardless, with how much money they make off of this alleged "Aids Funding". Besides, they want us all to live in fear! P.S. Does anyone know someone who actually has aids? I don't know a single person out of everyone ive met my entire life who does (or knows about it rather). I think that the people i know are either very unaware, or the government made up Aids. -.- Yes. The government made up AIDS. And we didn't land on the moon. Lurk more, newbie. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
but, what's wrong with lurking? | ||
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dronebabo
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
On February 09 2006 13:33 [angst]chraej wrote: SCREW THAT, wtf??? cure cancer you morons! half the people with HIV just cant stop having sex, its THEIR FAULT but...i guess its good for the other half who were born that way etc Its not really THEIR FAULT because the other partner may be unaware of it and those people then get HIV. | ||
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RuNei
United States30 Posts
On February 10 2006 15:08 exalted wrote: Yes. The government made up AIDS. And we didn't land on the moon. Lurk more, newbie. No way, that was a set.. i played poker w/ Armstrong like an hour after that was supposed to happen ^^ | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On February 10 2006 15:08 exalted wrote: Yes. The government made up AIDS. And we didn't land on the moon. Lurk more, newbie. He does have a point. All this fund raising for AIDS, cancer and shit is such a scam. Why should regular people support it with their own money? In the end it would be pharmaseuticals who make billons upon billons $$ of profit when the drug is out. | ||
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L!MP
Australia2067 Posts
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sdpgposd
United Kingdom1464 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On February 09 2006 16:49 RuNei wrote: The government isnt going to let them release it reguardless, with how much money they make off of this alleged "Aids Funding". Besides, they want us all to live in fear! P.S. Does anyone know someone who actually has aids? I don't know a single person out of everyone ive met my entire life who does (or knows about it rather). I think that the people i know are either very unaware, or the government made up Aids. -.- Best post in this entire thread. hahaha | ||
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Freezer_au
Australia1461 Posts
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FroST(TE)
United States909 Posts
On February 13 2006 18:49 Sfydjklm wrote: He does have a point. All this fund raising for AIDS, cancer and shit is such a scam. Why should regular people support it with their own money? In the end it would be pharmaseuticals who make billons upon billons $$ of profit when the drug is out. you are both complete scumbags i hope you both get aids | ||
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bsj9
United States927 Posts
On February 10 2006 16:20 tKd_ wrote: Its not really THEIR FAULT because the other partner may be unaware of it and those people then get HIV. Ignorance isn't an excuse | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On February 14 2006 11:21 Freezer_au wrote: I remember reading last year a man in the United Kingdom overcame aids and left doctors baffled. I remember. Must've been a slow newsday. She can lie. Are you supposed to ask for evidence everytime? | ||
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bsj9
United States927 Posts
He does have a point. All this fund raising for AIDS, cancer and shit is such a scam. Why should regular people support it with their own money? In the end it would be pharmaseuticals who make billons upon billons $$ of profit when the drug is out. That's like saying you don't want your tax money going to road construction because you don't drive. see the flaw in your statement? other people need that money to find a cure you're making it sound wrong to make profit of your business. that's capitalism for you. don't blame it on something that people ALL OVER THE WORLD will actually benefit upon. | ||
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
I was wondering how many times you made sex.. Maybe its a joke, forgive me if it really is a joke. | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On February 13 2006 19:10 L!MP wrote: fantastic news. hopefully the in vitro results carry over when/if they get the clear to try the treatment on humans. there already is a drug that stop in vitro infection of aids/hiv. its being used in africa by some of the clinics and even protects during the 2nd and 3rd pregnancy. | ||
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Ready2[ESC]
Hungary1436 Posts
cancer >>> HIV you can use protection against aids but not vs cancer | ||
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KaasZerg
Netherlands927 Posts
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