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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#4521
On July 02 2013 06:43 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:39 Microchaton wrote:
So at that point, what happens, does the prosecution try to backpedal the case to negligent homicide or something ? There's no fucking way he'll be judged guilty to 2nd degree murder unless something gigantic happens. And if he gets released bad things will happen.


I think at this point, if Zimmerman is found guilty bad things will happen.

Probably a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Media coverage really blew this to massive proportions.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
July 01 2013 21:46 GMT
#4522
On July 02 2013 06:44 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:43 Defacer wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:39 Microchaton wrote:
So at that point, what happens, does the prosecution try to backpedal the case to negligent homicide or something ? There's no fucking way he'll be judged guilty to 2nd degree murder unless something gigantic happens. And if he gets released bad things will happen.


I think at this point, if Zimmerman is found guilty bad things will happen.

Probably a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Media coverage really blew this to massive proportions.


It's not like the media has caused riots before over exaggerated information or anything...
Write your own song!
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 21:48:34
July 01 2013 21:47 GMT
#4523
I don't think there's going to be much rioting. The police in America are basically a paramilitary force now they won't have much trouble preventing embryonic riots from growing. Also I don't think many people will try to riot anyway, for all communities in America downtrodden apathy is pervasive.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 01 2013 21:48 GMT
#4524
We don't need to see life-threatening injuries ?

No.

We don't need to see any injuries at all, do we ?

No.

/case closed
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#4525
O'Mara - Can you just tell the jury that everything inconsistent Zimmerman said is explained away based on your experience, and that in fact he was a potential victim and was traumatized?

Lead Investigator - Of course. Let me tell you the story of how Zimmerman was a poor dude who was brutally attacked, any inconsistencies in his testimony were trivial and expected because of his brutal injuries and I felt he was honest and truthful with me. Is that sufficient, or do you want me to bend over the prosecutor's case a little farther?

O'Mara - No. I think you have pretty much fucked him over.

Judge - Counsel, do you want to attempt to revive your case...I mean re-direct?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 01 2013 21:50 GMT
#4526
On July 02 2013 06:48 Kaitlin wrote:
We don't need to see life-threatening injuries ?

No.

We don't need to see any injuries at all, do we ?

No.

/case closed

There's enough here for there not to even be a case. This only went to trial because of the media.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 01 2013 21:50 GMT
#4527
oh jesus christ...."he was mentoring african american children."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 01 2013 21:51 GMT
#4528
On July 02 2013 06:50 dAPhREAk wrote:
oh jesus christ...."he was mentoring african american children."

ROFL.

This guy will be the lead witness for Zimmerman in any civil case that he pursues once this is over.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
July 01 2013 21:52 GMT
#4529
if you live in a black area and you don't have good security on your home, I suggest you upgrade. I'm not trying to make a cutesy joke statement. There are some very serious indications that riots will break out, and it's looking like Zimmerman will be acquitted.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 01 2013 21:56 GMT
#4530
On July 02 2013 06:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
O'Mara - Can you just tell the jury that everything inconsistent Zimmerman said is explained away based on your experience, and that in fact he was a potential victim and was traumatized?

Lead Investigator - Of course. Let me tell you the story of how Zimmerman was a poor dude who was brutally attacked, any inconsistencies in his testimony were trivial and expected because of his brutal injuries and I felt he was honest and truthful with me. Is that sufficient, or do you want me to bend over the prosecutor's case a little farther?

O'Mara - No. I think you have pretty much fucked him over.

Judge - Counsel, do you want to attempt to revive your case...I mean re-direct?

This is the post of the thread.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 01 2013 21:57 GMT
#4531
"you tried to trick him into thinking there was a video tape, and zimmerman said "thank god." what did that indicate to you? that he was telling the truth or a pathological liar, but nothing indicated he was actually a liar."

jesus christ this guy is killing the prosecutor.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#4532
Okay, O'Mara. It's time to drop the mic.

Just end there.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#4533
What is the history with this investigator ? Does he hold animosity toward the prosecution ?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 01 2013 22:02 GMT
#4534
On July 02 2013 07:00 Kaitlin wrote:
What is the history with this investigator ? Does he hold animosity toward the prosecution ?

he was criticized and reassigned (purportedly as his own request). note, he actually asked that manslaughter charges be brought against zimmerman, and the state attorney said no.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/26/nation/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lead-investigator-reassigned-20120626
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 01 2013 22:02 GMT
#4535
My God. Personal injury attorneys say all of the time that it is never a good idea to try a case when the plaintiff's doctors aren't on the plaintiff's side. It looks like the equivalent of that rule for the State in criminal trials is to never try a case when the lead investigator isn't on your side. He just buttfucked the prosecution's case.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 01 2013 22:10 GMT
#4536
On July 02 2013 07:02 xDaunt wrote:
My God. Personal injury attorneys say all of the time that it is never a good idea to try a case when the plaintiff's doctors aren't on the plaintiff's side. It looks like the equivalent of that rule for the State in criminal trials is to never try a case when the lead investigator isn't on your side. He just buttfucked the prosecution's case.


Nancy Grace will be sure to tell America how well the prosecution is going and Zimmerman is certain to be convicted unless there is a travesty of justice for that poor, innocent black boy.
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
July 01 2013 22:15 GMT
#4537
Tragic for the Martins but I'm kinda starting to feel bad for Zimmerman. He has a history of being sympathetic towards blacks but is having his life ruined because of perceived racism on his part.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
July 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#4538
On July 02 2013 06:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
O'Mara - Can you just tell the jury that everything inconsistent Zimmerman said is explained away based on your experience, and that in fact he was a potential victim and was traumatized?

Lead Investigator - Of course. Let me tell you the story of how Zimmerman was a poor dude who was brutally attacked, any inconsistencies in his testimony were trivial and expected because of his brutal injuries and I felt he was honest and truthful with me. Is that sufficient, or do you want me to bend over the prosecutor's case a little farther?

O'Mara - No. I think you have pretty much fucked him over.

Judge - Counsel, do you want to attempt to revive your case...I mean re-direct?


This post is so much win. I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 01 2013 22:22 GMT
#4539
I am really beginning to think that Jeantel was so reluctant because she knows the story is bullshit and really didn't want to get involved. And that includes the "Get off, get off" comment. Unless it was GZ saying "get off, get off" and she actually did hear the entire fight. She jumped all over the idea that Trayvon would have left her on the phone during the encounter, with the "that's retarded" comment. There isn't any proof as to exactly when the call ended is there ? It would also go a long way to explaining why she never followed up wondering what happened, if she had heard on the phone what happened. She may have heard the whole thing, and didn't want to admit it, and certainly didn't want to have to testify about it. Certainly helps to understand her reluctance. Anybody else think this ?
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#4540
Damn, I missed the lead investigator. Was it really that bad?
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